That 9-18mm f4-5.6 looks promising!
Yes, the 9-18 is the interesting thing in that. Should be good.
The VF2 looks good. Should be very comfortable from the looks of it (after all these years of camera making experience, Olympus is bound to get that right).
E-P2....still no swivel TFT screen.
hmmm ... very underwhelming..
big clunky external VF... lenses we already have... why wasn't all this in the e-p1?
was hoping for something a little more exciting ... at least a 14/2.8 or a 25/2
Now that really is a beautiful camera. Not so keen on the EVF though I would use it.
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I don't want the EVF so I should just wait for one of you to put their E-P1 and 17mm f/2.8 up for sale for a good price as you get ready to upgrade
Didn't see any mention of improved auto-focus speed which I wouldn't mind.
Has anyone tried the GF1 with the Olympus 17mm? If so, how is the auto-focus speed?
VF looks big, but on the other hand, it is probably a big view, too.
I'll tell ya....heads should roll....I mean....
Here's some guys sitting back looking at their great design of the EP1 and even the EP2.
Then as they smile at each other and sip on some nice Merlot......well maybe Saki.....
the head guy, the top shelf engineer, the money man comes in....puts that THING on top of that elegant camera and says......
This here be the stuff that ... well........I'm not allowed to go further......
It's obvious, he actually is on Panasonic's payroll....
If Moses saw that, there would be another Commandment....
Seems too be most of what I hoped for; high-res EVF, black colour and video. Tilting LCD would have been nice, but probably not realistic on this body. Olympus probably save a lot on tooling costs using the same as on EP-1. It's a pity that external mike and EVF can't be connected at the same time, but I can live with that.
This might be what I've been waiting for to use with my OM lenses
Any word about price yet?
I don't care what gear I have.
Things I sell: http://www.shutterstock.com/sets/413...html?rid=61105
950.00 euros = $1406.00= OUCH
I wonder if that projected price included the viewfinder. Probably not.
wow, the VF looks massive. I don't know if I like that. I do dig it in the new black.
though, onboard flash proved quite valuable for my GF1. Managed to snag a pretty basic point and shoot shot, but w/o flash, it would not have come out (handed camera to someone else, had met singer of a band).
A solid bump to pull in some on the fence, but not worth getting rid of the E-P1... what's the ship date on this thing even?
I'm not kicking myself for getting the GF1 last month.
DPreview post a couple of days ago, Thom Hogan wrote:Actually, the odds that Panasonic and Olympus end up almost exactly duplicating lenses is going to be near 100%. I understand Olympus' next lenses are a wide zoom, a closer to normal pancake, and a telephoto macro. Sound familiar?Thom turned out to be wrong on both counts: unfair to Panasonic and wildly optimistic about Olympus' next lenses being a zoom and two primes. That was never going to happen, given Olympus' bias towards zoom lenses (there are 15 zooms and only 6 primes in the Olympus Standard Four-Thirds range).
Sad to see. If we get two companies duplicating lenses what we don't get is a system broadened so fast that the competition can't catch them. Right now, Samsung, Ricoh, and Sony (all known to be doing competitive designs) only have to do a wide zoom, normal zoom, tele zoom, and two or three primes to appear to match m4/3. Lenses that should be coming next for m4/3 and would give m4/3 the ability to point at what their first-to-market advantage really means just aren't there. A 12mm prime. A 40mm fast portrait lens (not macro). A wider to telephotier zoom lens (12-60mm). A 180 degree diagonal fisheye. A 25-75mm f/2. Things like that...
So if you want a 14/2.8 or a 25/2, that will mean another zoom as well. If you want both primes, they will come at the cost of another two zooms. I don't understand why Olympus is so anti-prime. Happily, Panasonic doesn't suffer from this bias (currently 3 zooms and 2 primes, with 1 zoom and 2 primes promised for next year -- which would yield a 50:50 split).
Hopefully, Mr Kobayashi at Cosina-Voigtlander can see an opportunity to which Olympus seems either hostile or oblivious.
I like the GF1 also.
Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.
EP2 is exactly what I've been waiting for. As long as the VF is at least as good as in G1. It will be a great tool for people who prefer to use MF lenses.
I'm happy with my GF1/GH1 combo. So, no regrets. Would be curious to see if they've done anything to improve the user interface on the E-P2 which is what ultimately let me down on the E-P1. I wonder if focus tracking could be implemented by way of firmware from the E-P1.
Even if the EVF design wasn't complete, it surprises me they didn't put the "port" for external devices in the E-P1.
I didn't hear when the next two lenses will be available. Also curious to see a more complete lens roadmap.
Here are a couple of links.
Imaging-Resource has a hands on preview where it seems in terms of handling the only difference is using the EVF and the focus tracking.
The Oly EVF should be much better than the Panasonic one given the much higher resolution alone and the high ISO performance is at least promising.
Add the built in image stabilization - which is great for the lenses without any OS, then this should be a really winner.
And finally it is black now again.
I just saw the video over at Imaging Resource and it was filmed in the room next to where I was interviewing the Olympus PR guys and they were lying straight to my face. I came to them honestly and willing to sign and abide by whatever NDA they had and they treated me like an idiot. I have lost all respect for those guys.
The most striking thing for me in the video is how shiny and reflective the black body is.
more toys...stupid ergonomics...in the [email protected] WORLD OF CROWDS AND HERDS... clip on view finders have a very short half life... something like the old Leica M ergonomics would keep the nose off the LCD, and vanish the "cLip on EVF" to the life stylers and posers
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Well I find it a great nice camera. Only thing which strikes me is rather the handling and feel of the Oly MFT lenses.
With a "EVF" there are no parallax problems so why put the viewfinder in the middLe of the camera?
Damn, looks like it isn't really black but some fancy translucent finish. Yuk
I retract my previous comment about Thom Hogan getting it wrong. The just-released Olympus lens roadmap promises:
* a fisheye (8mm?)
* a wide (14mm?)
* a macro (45mm)
* a super telephoto zoom (90-270mm?)
In other words, Olympus will almost exactly duplicate the Panasonic lens range.
Their lack of courage and imagination is almost beyond belief.
Just as well the Chinese and Taiwanese manufacturers will promptly provide adapters that will allow us to use our legacy MF lenses on Samsung's upcoming and Sony's rumored APS-C sensor EVIL cameras. And that the cost of the EVIL camera bodies is not so high as to discourage one from easily switching systems.
I'm quietly hopeful that Ricoh will come up with something special as well.
actually what did you think would happen? Why should Oly become creative suddenly?
Olympus is one of the most conservative and careful companies and it takes them years to correct wrong directions.
Although I believe that MFT is a good direction and a real market gap. And the E-P2 is a very promising camera, I like it much better from the specs and controls than the E-P1 and the GF1.
Can the EVF on the Olympus be used on the GF1? .
Life is an infinite series of moments called..."now".
My job is to capture them.
What is the point of these detachable accessories if they are not compatible with other cameras from the same system?
They (m4/3rds players) might as well start copying Sigma and make dp style cameras that may end up being more compact...
My first thoughts too. The connector of both finders looks very much the same and is in very much the same position. So, it just might be exchangeable. Good question for the dealers. Who else will have both finders?
About the size: I don't know if the Panny finder really is that much smaller. The Oly has a much higher pixelcount, so it must be bigger.
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Also: Full manual control of aperture and shutter in movie mode.
Full PR is here:
perhaps I missed something but why is there so much hype about the EP when the G1 is in almost any way I can think of a better camera?
I mean I get tired of hearing the G1 compared to digicams like the FZ-28 while everyone seems to rave about the EP as it it was some sort of major difference?
Aside from the sensor shift stabilisation (and I have yet to even see a comparison on how well it works with different sorts of shake) the Oly is like a Harley Davidson ... compared to jap bikes (CBR, ZX-R ...) which are 50% cheaper its big on look but won't go fast, won't corner, under braked and under powered.
To my readings the EP (1 or 2) have inferior rear screen, inferior auto-focus, frustrating menu systems ... heck I can flip my screen around on my G1, not bother with the view finder and I have everything the same (with a better grip)
what did I miss?
ohh ... yeah ... and 100 euro in my pocket
But it has that annoying faux prism!
I like my G1 today as much as I did a year ago when I got it.