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    Wonderful series, Terry.
    Thanks Cindy. I am having so much fun with the G1 I want to try a few of my Leica lenes in particular I have a 135mm F4 Tele Elmar that is a gem given it's age and grace.

    Best regards. Terry

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    Re: Fun with 4/3rds cameras/ Image Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Hi Cindy, The first shot (even this winter sunlight) of the chrome steering wheel is blown because of the low DR of the G1. Another camera should have been able handle that, I would think. The 50/2 has good contrast and would need a bit subdued lighting (with lesser contrast as in in your 2nd and 3rd shots) for the G1 to catch all the details that lens can deliver.
    HI Vivek
    I've been using 4:3 cameras for 4 or 5 years now (from the E1 onwards). My own personal mantra has always been 'expose for the highlights'. Blown highlights is something that can ALWAYS be avoided (although not always in combination with open shadows). When using the A900 it's quite different, in this case you can keep on opening the highlights forever.

    IMHO Highlights are never blown because of low dynamic range, they are blown because of the exposure chosen. In this case it seems they weren't blown at all, it was just a processing issue.

    I've used the 50mm f2 quite a lot on the G1 - it seemed to me to be the best of all the lenses I tried - it's been a favorite ever since the E1, and whatever you think of the DR of the G1 (and I don't think we disagree here), it's better than most previous 4:3 cameras!

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    Exactly my thoughts Jono - dynamic range is not anchored at either end, it's just a case of where you expose.

    Agree totally with your assessment of 50mm f2 and DR of the G1 also. I was surprised to read the dpreview assessment of the G1's DR... I'd got the impression (in practice. shooting for myself) that the shadows were cleaner and DR greater than the E-420/E-520/E-3

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    Clearly, on Cindy's first shot, I erred (not the first time and won't be last).

    Terry C, There is only one stretch of shopping area in Vancouver, eh?
    (I lived in Victoria for a while. Miss it, even the incessant rains).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Clearly, on Cindy's first shot, I erred (not the first time and won't be last).
    ...snip...
    That makes two of us!

    The Arizona sun is soooo bright, it really plays havoc when photographing chrome.

    My hope is that C1 and Aperture will support the G1 soon. Then I can get back to my regular workflow.

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    Re: Fun with 4/3rds cameras/ Image Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post

    My hope is that C1 and Aperture will support the G1 soon. Then I can get back to my regular workflow.
    Tell me about it - I've stopped using the kit lenses altogether.
    However, Cindy, you do realise that you can use Aperture with any other lenses? I don't think everyone realises this.

    You simply convert the files to DNG using the Adobe DNG converter :
    Compressed (lossless)
    Preserve RAW image
    don't embed original

    This will give you a standard DNG file which Aperture deals with very happily.
    This works with all the Olympus 4:3 lenses (even the 9-18 and the pancake) and also with anything EXCEPT the two kit lenses (I'm not certain about the Panasonic 4:3 lenses)

    . . . perhaps this warrants a new thread?

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    I've been watching from the cheap seats for awhile and one thing bugs me. Sorry if this has been dealt with before, I tried to read through all the 4/3 threads but there's a lot of stuff.

    My question is regarding the aspect ratio. Does the foreshortened rectangle bug anyone? Something about it chafes a little. Like an uncomfortable crop. Anyone find themselves rubbing up against that in practice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Tell me about it - I've stopped using the kit lenses altogether.
    However, Cindy, you do realise that you can use Aperture with any other lenses? I don't think everyone realises this.

    You simply convert the files to DNG using the Adobe DNG converter :
    Compressed (lossless)
    Preserve RAW image
    don't embed original

    This will give you a standard DNG file which Aperture deals with very happily.
    This works with all the Olympus 4:3 lenses (even the 9-18 and the pancake) and also with anything EXCEPT the two kit lenses (I'm not certain about the Panasonic 4:3 lenses)

    . . . perhaps this warrants a new thread?
    You are right, Jono, but I use Aperture to catalog all RAW files and C1 to process the keepers. I was clogging up my system with all the DNG files, so I decided to just wait till Aperture supports the G1 to add all the files to my library. The new C1 keeps crashing, so that is another pain in the neck.
    For now, I am using Silkypix to display all of the files. In the case of the car show pix, I just used Silkypix to save the keepers and PS to sharpen and crop. I went back and converted the steering wheel pic to DNG and then processed it in C1 to show that the data was really there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRSmith View Post
    I've been watching from the cheap seats for awhile and one thing bugs me. Sorry if this has been dealt with before, I tried to read through all the 4/3 threads but there's a lot of stuff.

    My question is regarding the aspect ratio. Does the foreshortened rectangle bug anyone? Something about it chafes a little. Like an uncomfortable crop. Anyone find themselves rubbing up against that in practice?
    Tim, The G1 gives you the choice of 4:3, 3:2 or 16:9.

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    Re: Fun with 4/3rds cameras/ Image Thread

    certain highlights, like those of shiny chorme, ought to be blown

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    Not quite John (when the chrome is your subject). I have seen many well exposed LF shots with lots of surface details (not the web sharpened things that hurt ones eyes). It is really nice that way (for me at least).

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    Re: Fun with 4/3rds cameras/ Image Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    Tim, The G1 gives you the choice of 4:3, 3:2 or 16:9.
    Doh! Thanks Cindy.

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    Couple from today.

    G1 14-45 kit lens.






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    Wonderful series, Terry.

    Quote Originally Posted by terryc View Post
    Thanks Cindy. I am having so much fun with the G1 I want to try a few of my Leica lenes in particular I have a 135mm F4 Tele Elmar that is a gem given it's age and grace.

    Best regards. Terry
    No pics of the Steam Clock?

    (my favorite thing in Vancouver)

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    No pics of the Steam Clock?

    (my favorite thing in Vancouver)
    Here is a little different perspective of the Gastown steam clock - shot with the G1 and the 45-200.

    Best regards. Terry

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    Quote Originally Posted by terryc View Post
    Here is a little different perspective of the Gastown steam clock - shot with the G1 and the 45-200.

    Best regards. Terry
    Ah, very nice. Thank you!!

    edit: The detail in the steam is amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by barjohn View Post
    The way you zoom with the Mac is to hold down the control key and roll the scroll ball. You can go up or bring it back down.
    Don't know if it was mentioned but that works in Firefox on Windows too.

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    Cracking shot Terry - love the detail in the steam!

    Thanks for sharing

    Brian

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    Cracking shot Terry - love the detail in the steam!

    Thanks for sharing

    Brian
    Thanks Brian.

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    Love the steam clock (curious what that is) photo--detail is terrific and I liked the composition.

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    Terry,
    Like everyone has mentioned, great composition and detail.

    DianeB, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_clock
    Last edited by Cindy Flood; 22nd January 2009 at 07:59.

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    Hi Terry, Great street shots and the steam image is very nice as well.

    Regards,
    Carl

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    View futher down the river.

    G1 14-45 kit lens.




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    Sweatheart, its sooooo cold outside. Can you please walk the dog ???


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    Here's an abstract building shot from lunch. G1, kit lens, processed in LR 2.2

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    Klaus, she looks like she could be a Muslim!

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    Hi Terry, Great street shots and the steam image is very nice as well.

    Regards,
    Carl
    Carl and all, thank you so much.

    The Steam Clock located on Water Street in Vancouver's Gastown and is powered by steam. It is a very popular attraction....

    A couple of years ago it was hit by a car and has not been very accurate since. Of course it would be extremely costly to fix, that said it is steam powered, and not exactly a Swiss time piece so all is forgiven. When it does go off - it has a very cool sound (at least I think so).

    In the summer time - it is a street shooters dream corner! Needless to say I have shot this clock every which way to Sunday - but I decided just to shoot one of the Steam vents and I was pretty impressed with the G1 and the 45-200 lens.

    Best regards. Terry.

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    Here some attempts in B&W with G1 and the Zuiko Pancake 25 and with the Nokton 40/1,4, I think all wide open and ISO 800.

    Nokton


    Pancake




    Nokton


    Thank you for viewing
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    Karl,

    Excellent, an inspiration for sure.

    Terry

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    Karl
    Completely splendid
    Congratulations - they're quite an inspiration.

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    Karl, veeeery good indeed!

    Kind Regards

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    very impressive images Karl.

    ... it's also nice, that the girl is not the same generation as the musician.

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    Thank's to you all for your kind comments. The musicians are retired members of an professionell bigband of a big broadcasting station . They play once every month in a little pub for fun and for charity benefits. The audience is mixed and has a lot of fun, very good jazz music, very good atmosphere.

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    Karl, Excellent portraits. The best work I've seen with the Nokton.

    Regards,
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    Absolutely lovely portraits, Karl.

    I'm also surprised how different the results from the two lenses turn out. Two personalities so to say.

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    very nice!
    i like b&w and the g1 together.

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    Great pictures Karl. They have a nice vintage look to them.

    I wish I had a pub like that near me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jklotz View Post
    Klaus, she looks like she could be a Muslim!
    I know for sure, she is not ! But it was so cold outside she wrapped a scarf around her head to keep the warmth...and then asked me to walk the dog..
    such are the girls..

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    Here's an ancient one, from last year. Did you know that they make yellow Hondas in Vietnam?

    E-1 with OM Zuiko 100mm f/2.8 @ f/4


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    This tiny little flower is nothing special. I just got my Nikon adapter and am trying out my Voigtlander 180 f/4 for Nikon on the G1.
    ISO 100 f/4 1/800

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    LOVELY Cindy...smooth creamy background
    like a Fine watercolor

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    Two shots of my friend, Ellen. G1 @ 26mm and 30mm respectively.

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    Wasn't happy with the black levels. Here's Ellen again. Thoughts?

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    Peter looks good , if shooting raw bring the highlight slider up just a tad to darken than work the overall image from that point. This will reduce some specular highlights a touch.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    I spent a quiet Sunday at home today, but captured this shot and kind of like how it turned out. Taken with the G1 and the 45-200 kit lens.

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    Beautiful light-and-shadow black-and-white color photo.

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    I second Steen. Lovely, Bill!

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    Peter, I like your first portrait with the adjusted black levels - lovely natural expression. Well Done!

    Kind Regards

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    D*** You All
    making the G1 sooo Tempting

    I really do not want another camera
    but your photos are so Good

    Yes I fully see The Allure is in the Photo
    because I find Digital SLR's so Plasticky Ugly
    & too many buttons and Options

    but it is becoming Tres Difficile to Ignore the Beauty in the G1

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    Bicyclist. Take two.

    Panasonic G1, 25/0.95 @ 0.95, 1/400s

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