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    I'm going more or less 100% m4/3 for my day-to-day photography, so had to do a test to see if I can do reasonably good pan shots with the EVF of a GH1. It seems to work fine. Although I can't see what I'm doing once I've started shooting, the speed of the movement mostly has to be anticipated beforehand anyway, and only minor adjustments are possible. I'm not selling my Nikon gear yet, but this shot was taken with a camera/lens combo that weighs less than 700g. The D300 or D2Xs with the 80-200 AF-S is nearly 3kg.
    hey excellent !
    I wondered how this would go with my own Gh2
    If I read you correctly, it seems the configuration defeats follow up shots due to extended black out. (?)

    What about the EVF lag though?
    and did you try burst mode ?

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    hey excellent !
    I wondered how this would go with my own Gh2
    If I read you correctly, it seems the configuration defeats follow up shots due to extended black out. (?)

    What about the EVF lag though?
    and did you try burst mode ?
    I do use burst mode, but if the images that come up in the viewfinder show that I'm completely off, I just let the shutter release go. It's a bit hit and miss, but all long exposure pan shots are, since the movement to a large degree has to be anticipated in beforehand.

    Practicing the "swing" with heavy resistance at the gym helps also. It's all about control, and more power gives more control.
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    G1, 45mm f/2.8 @ 6.3




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    Unwired





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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    I do use burst mode, but if the images that come up in the viewfinder show that I'm completely off, I just let the shutter release go. It's a bit hit and miss, but all long exposure pan shots are, since the movement to a large degree has to be anticipated in beforehand.

    Practicing the "swing" with heavy resistance at the gym helps also. It's all about control, and more power gives more control.

    Sounds right. I would like to add that specifically "EVF Lag" on the newer µ4/3 bodies is just about nonexistent. The EVF Lag of my GH1 for example is juuust acceptable for almost all kinds of photography. For critical sports shots it's sometimes not. With my GH2 however the EVF Lag is about 1/30th of a second and maybe 3 or 4 times faster than my GH1. And that's fast enough for every kind of photography. The typical motor-chord to ones's finger digits is said to be 1/10s after all.

    Black outs, EVF Preview delays and so forth are of course a different matter...

    Just saying...

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    Visited my favourite restaurant with a friend of mine and my new GH2 last night. The GH2 really rocks

    GH2 with Pana 7-14 @ 14mm, f/4.0, 1/10s and ISO 3200

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    Yup, I'm keeping mine for awhile too!




    GH2, FD 85/1.2L





    GH2, FD 300/2.8L





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    Some more with the FD 300/2.8L on the GH2:

    The first image here was an experiment on a rather dull image to show someone how much sharpening could be applied using a MC booster without incurring those 2 or 3 pixel outline halos indicative of USM, Smart Sharpen, and the alike. The rest are just normally processed without much done to them.





    1/2000s ISO200*








    1/250s ISO200*








    1/250s ISO800*








    1/1600s ISO800








    1/2500s ISO1000*




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    At the Fort Worth, Texas Botanical Gardens...


    flower by Colyn's fotografs, on Flickr
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    There are some lovely photos here. I thought I would post something completely different. I picked up an Olympus OM-D EP-5 a couple of days ago. I thought I would give it a try out with some long exposures, 40 seconds without the dark frame noise reduction. An impossible task with either my old E-P1 or E-P3.


    Clifton Gardens by peterb666, on Flickr

    I am very pleased with the results.
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    ^^^ Cool!






    GH2, Pana 14-45/3.5, 1/60s, f/4.5, ISO640, 19mm (35mm eq:38mm)



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    ^^^ Cool!


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    Just an irrelevant observation here; those beautiful yellow leaves on the ground are from a Ginkgo tree, an ancient species and one of my favorite fall varieties to photograph.

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    Could be. They produce buttloads of ginun (Gea-none) nuts (maybe 1,000 per tree). Which when cooked are awesome with a little salt - and of course hot sake!

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    Been processing old and new pix from the Panasonic G3 with C1 v7. From Sunday at a fund-raiser Greek street festival in an Adelaide suburb.

    Nick and his wife selling pots of basil to support the local Greek Orthodox church


    Panasonic G3 with 20mm wide open at f1.7
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    The event designer likes Comic Sans. Groan.



    Odd language; thought they were all drinks. Panasonic G3 16:9 with Pentax 35/2.8 via adapter.

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    G1, 7-14mm @ 13mm




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    Scene on an escalator



    This was exposed at iso1250 on my Panasonic G3/20mm, which sensitivity I would not use until the advent of Capture One v7, which handles noise reduction and under-exposure very well indeed.
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    Pixelmator 2.1.1 ?

    I was looking for which camera took that Mr. Medium, and while that info wasn't present it did say: "Pixelmator 2.1.1".

    So I have to ask... Which camera are you using and what was Pixelmator used for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tesselator View Post
    Pixelmator 2.1.1 ?

    I was looking for which camera took that Mr. Medium, and while that info wasn't present it did say: "Pixelmator 2.1.1".

    So I have to ask... Which camera are you using and what was Pixelmator used for?
    Panasonic G3/20mm f1.7

    I use Pixelmator after exporting from C1 to do final sizing, cloning, and adding a 2-pixel–wide black border. Photoshop rarely gets a look-in these days (BTW, Pixelmator is OSX-only).

    HTH

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    Pure pleasure and concentration!



    G3/20
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    Quote Originally Posted by mediumcool View Post
    Panasonic G3/20mm f1.7

    I use Pixelmator after exporting from C1 to do final sizing, cloning, and adding a 2-pixel–wide black border. Photoshop rarely gets a look-in these days (BTW, Pixelmator is OSX-only).

    HTH
    Hey thanks man!

    Yeah I have 1.6.5 installed. I dunno why I don't use it more often. I really dug it when I first installed it... and then I just kinda went back to my usual routine. Maybe I'll give it another look. I've just been with Photoshop for so long now... Ever since Amiga went under - actually a few years prior but just for work...


    And just to keep the images going here's two from a couple of hours ago using the Contax Zeiss 85/1.4 Planar on the GH2:

















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    _1040410 by gungyduo, on Flickr
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    Hi everyone!

    I've had a G1 since the beginning. But recently I've become a big fan of a stitching technique developed by a NYC-based wedding photographer named Ryan Brenizer. (I've no doubt some of you have heard of the Brenizer "method'.) The technique involves taking a number of stills in manual mode or locked AE/AF on the main subject wide open and then making a composite. I use photoshop elements but there are some terrific stand alone programs like PTGUI and others that will do an even better job. The result is an image that has the shallow DOF of a telephoto with the expanse of a wide angle. Like having a 28mm f0.8 lens!

    Ryan and others argue that the best images result when the individual images have been taken with a FF or APS-C lens (ideally 50mm or better for APS-C and 85mm or better for FF with both at least f2 or faster).

    I was contemplating getting a larger sensor DSLR (I only have G1 and my other camera is the DP2 M) so I thought I'd try an experiment. I bought the dirt cheap 85mm f1.4 Samyang and an adapter for the G1 (Samyang does not make any 85mm lenses with the mFt mount). On my first time out this is what I was able to do. (Please note the white 'holes' were areas that I simply goofed and did not get shots to cover. Also, in the shot with the accord I made the mistake of making some minor adjustments to the individual OOC shots. As a result you can see some of the individual exposures. The other two don't have that issue. So I apologize.)

    My conclusion is..yes. An mFt can do some pretty decent Brenizer type images certainly on a par with those made with a FF or APS-C. I surmise it might actually be better since the individual mFT images have a greater pixel density than images created by FF or APS-C due to the fact that each for every 24 MP FF shot it requires FOUR 12-16 MP mFt shots!

    As a result, I think I'll just get the G5 or GH3 and quite possibly the Zuiko 75mm f1.8. mFt seems to work just fine for the Brenizer method. There doesn't appear to be any urgency to get a FF camera to do this.

    The effect is most pronounced in the third shot featuring the shrubs. With people shots there's an eerie three dimensionality that is truly a marvel to see. (Note the files for the forum are relatively small. The ACTUAL files are HUGE. Minimally 54 MB Tiffs with the larger panos around 234 Tiffs jpgs.)

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    Tree at Castle Plaza



    A bit of the tropics in a shopping centre car park in South Australia. G3/20.
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    ^^ Someone's making rubber?


    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    Hi everyone!
    I've become a big fan of a stitching technique developed by a NYC-based wedding photographer named Ryan Brenizer. (I've no doubt some of you have heard of the Brenizer "method'.) The technique involves taking a number of stills in manual mode or locked AE/AF on the main subject wide open and then making a composite. I use photoshop elements but there are some terrific stand alone programs like PTGUI and others that will do an even better job. The result is an image that has the shallow DOF of a telephoto with the expanse of a wide angle. Like having a 28mm f0.8 lens!

    Ryan and others argue that the best images result when the individual images have been taken with a FF or APS-C lens (ideally 50mm or better for APS-C and 85mm or better for FF with both at least f2 or faster).

    I was contemplating getting a larger sensor DSLR (I only have G1 and my other camera is the DP2 M) so I thought I'd try an experiment. I bought the dirt cheap 85mm f1.4 Samyang and an adapter for the G1 (Samyang does not make any 85mm lenses with the mFt mount). On my first time out this is what I was able to do. (Please note the white 'holes' were areas that I simply goofed and did not get shots to cover. Also, in the shot with the accord I made the mistake of making some minor adjustments to the individual OOC shots. As a result you can see some of the individual exposures. The other two don't have that issue. So I apologize.)

    My conclusion is..yes. An mFt can do some pretty decent Brenizer type images certainly on a par with those made with a FF or APS-C. I surmise it might actually be better since the individual mFT images have a greater pixel density than images created by FF or APS-C due to the fact that each for every 24 MP FF shot it requires FOUR 12-16 MP mFt shots!

    As a result, I think I'll just get the G5 or GH3 and quite possibly the Zuiko 75mm f1.8. mFt seems to work just fine for the Brenizer method. There doesn't appear to be any urgency to get a FF camera to do this.

    The effect is most pronounced in the third shot featuring the shrubs. With people shots there's an eerie three dimensionality that is truly a marvel to see. (Note the files for the forum are relatively small. The ACTUAL files are HUGE. Minimally 54 MB Tiffs with the larger panos around 234 Tiffs jpgs.)

    Peter

    Hi Peter,
    My shot of the yellow tree above is just that. It's 40 images with the Canon FD 85mm/1.2L set to f/1.2 and stitched together using Autopano Giga 2.6 Here's a shot using 240 images (after cropping) in the same way:



    I was pretty much standing right under that tree there. The top images are pointed about 80˚ up off horizontal. oO


    My process might be slightly different in a few regards. If the FOV I wanted works out to too many images (more than about 20 or 30 total) I use Adobe Camera RAW to convert and scale them. I always shoot RAW and not all stitchers can read the RAW files.

    In ACR the setting to scale the image is actually a function of how ACR demosaics the image in the first place as such:




    After that setting is selected I select all images and mess with the sliders as needed. When done I use the "Save Images" feature and save them all off into a JPeg folder properly labeled like:




    This effectively adds the post-processing changes to each of the individual files uniformly.

    Then just load them into Autopano Giga or whatever pano stitcher you prefer, and press Render:




    From there you can either crop it in PS or have the stitcher software automatically crop it for you. And with the ACR scale-type process the result is actually manageable enough (small enough) to process further in PS should you so desire. With the full sized RAW images the slightest edits can take very long to complete! Even on my 8-core MacPro with 16GB or RAM.

    BTW you can fill in those white holes with Photoshop's "Spot Healing Brush Tool", "Healing Brush Tool" or "Patch Tool" fairly easily. Depending which you select just set the brush's Size and Hardness parameters, select a source area that looks kinda similar, and you're good to paint. Also as you probably already know the WB setting is often pretty important with these. Just whatever you set it to, don't set it to AWB... so that all the images come in at the same WB. If you forget as I sometimes do, just selecting all images and ACR and then setting a custom WB will usually cure any mismatches.

    Panoramas in general are pretty fun! One of the tools I find most helpful - almost indispensable - is a gimbal head! Absolutely perfect tool for the job! I'm using the Beike head which is amazingly under $100 shipped and delivered. Here it is on ebay. and this thing is very very close to the same quality as the $800+ Wimberley head from last year. If you really get into this and wanna splurge there's also a robotic gimbal head ya can get where ya just set a few parameters and it takes all the shots for you. LOL I think it's not all that expensive either - at least compared to the all manual Wimberley.
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    Curious Peacock at the City of Ten Thousand Buddhas in Ukiah, California. Olympus EPL5 with Zuiko 45mm.
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    Could be. They produce buttloads of ginun (Gea-none) nuts (maybe 1,000 per tree). Which when cooked are awesome with a little salt - and of course hot sake!
    But they aren't hermaphrodite . . . so our poor tree (I don't know if it's male or female) produces nothing, as there is no lover within 20 miles.

    It does, however, produce the lovely yellow leaves in the fall.

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    So many nice photos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    But they aren't hermaphrodite . . . so our poor tree (I don't know if it's male or female) produces nothing, as there is no lover within 20 miles.

    It does, however, produce the lovely yellow leaves in the fall.
    Awe... Oh well. At least you can be thankful of the lack of mess and smell. Those seeds or nuts or whatever they are smell just like a skunk if ya step on them.

    Also while I hear they're good for you in some regards they completely deplete your system of B6. So if you eat too many (more than 30 or so) you can get the shakes (super jittery hands) - and even fever and vomiting in some cases.

    I still eat lots of them tho! Just with a few a B-complex supplement tabs - oh, and that hot saki I mentioned!!!
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    Trying out the new Oly 17/1.8:


    PC190032 by Amin Sabet, on Flickr

    The tree lights have some onion skin, blue fringing thing going on, but I'm not seeing anything disturbing in my shots in general. White Christmas lights kind of tough on most of my lenses, and I can't rule out a contribution from the filter.
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    Amin, ditch the filter dude. You don't need it or any other extra glass element covering that great lens.

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    There's a huge split in terms of people who like to use filters and people who don't think they're needed. One side sites safety and cleaning convenience with no optical degradation and the other side sites optical degradation with no "real" added safety or convenience.

    Oddly enough neither group ever seems to affect the opinions of the other. In every case I've seen the photog has to come to his own conclusions.

    In my case I'm just shallow enough to shoot naked because I think the lenses look better without filters on.
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    This makes sense, doesn't it? From the streets of Bangkok this morning.
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    Oh... and since it's Christmas: Remember to get your hair done

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    It's that time of year for the obligatory Family Christmas Portraits.

    This is Alexis taken with the E-PL3 and 45mm.

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    Just back from a concert with the legendary Thai rock band Carabao. Nice concert.

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    Those are cool Jorgen! Looks like a fun time too!


    Louis, I dig the shot of the lady holding up the phone!





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    What looks a bit like daylight is a warm fluorescent tube. ISO2000 on a Panasonic G3 w/20mm 1/15 @ f1.8.

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    OK, last part from that event, promise

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