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    The kit lens does a good job, IMHO, for what it is...it's an inexpensive kit lens. I don't have any issues with software correction, it helps keep the cost down. Now, I do wish camera manufacturers would go back to the old days and bundle a relatively fast prime instead...probably not going to happen.

    I use it pretty much at 14mm for a 28/3.5 equivalent as there aren't any other options for that at the moment. The only other option is the CV 15, which is slower. The focal lengths on the kit lens above 14mm are too slow.
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    Here's a couple of new ones from the G1 and 14-45 kit lens.

    "Puddle Sky" (This was made possible by the MF ability of the G1 to go beyond the foreground to get the trees in sharp focus... so easy!)
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    "Tribal Markings"
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    Cheers,
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    Boring day.... snowing all the time. Lousy cold.

    So what can a man do ??
    Tuning ! Tune the FL36 for faster recycling times.... what have i done.... it works..donīt do that with your toys....!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kweide View Post
    Boring day.... snowing all the time. Lousy cold.

    So what can a man do ??
    Tuning ! Tune the FL36 for faster recycling times.... what have i done.... it works..donīt do that with your toys....!




    Yikes, Mr. K!That looks interesting. Nice product shots.

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    G1,
    The wife taking a sneak peek.
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    This is kind of fun. A 5 image stitch of downtown Atlanta taken from the roof of my studio. G1, pani tele zoom

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark1000 View Post
    Hi Leica 77, as a noob in all things concerning bokeh i'm puzzled, in another forum where i post this pic i was C&C'd about the bokeh and told the bokeh was very bad due to the kit lens i used (45-200mm kit ), so is the Leica M 90mm Summicron bad bokeh too, is that what your saying?.

    All i know is i like the pic for what it is.

    Thanks for looking and taking the time to comment.

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    Hello MARK,
    Actually, I was pleased to see the bokeh behind the beautiful bird. Leica M 90mm Summicron like Leica M 35mm Summicron lenses produce fine bokeh as well. Best regards, Leica 77

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leica 77 View Post
    Hello MARK,
    Actually, I was pleased to see the bokeh behind the beautiful bird. Leica M 90mm Summicron like Leica M 35mm Summicron lenses produce fine bokeh as well. Best regards, Leica 77

    Cheers Leica77, wasn't sure, but now i am.

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    kit lens


    zm 50/1.5 sonnar


    kit lens

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    Joe, That Sonnar shot just jumps off my screen. Love it!

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    thanks cindy.

    i like having the option of using the zm lenses on the g1.

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    Here are some serious but fun to take photos and a couple of fun to take and not so serious photos. The cathedral shots are handheld at ISO 80 at 1/5th second using the kit lens. The others were also handheld but at more normal shutter speeds and lower ISO.
    Last edited by barjohn; 23rd August 2009 at 20:56.
    V/r John

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    Hi,

    the dog on the bike is very funny

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    Re: Fun with 4/3rds cameras/ Image Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by jklotz View Post
    This is kind of fun. A 5 image stitch of downtown Atlanta taken from the roof of my studio. G1, pani tele zoom
    Hi, James !

    Can you tell us which stitching program you used ?

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    Hi,

    meet Jaqueline, a good friend of mine



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    First post... hi!

    I just purchased my G1 and a small selection of lenses. This photo came from a 1933 Summar. It's such a fun lens.

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    Roberta? Welcome. What a beautiful first shot. I look forward to seeing what you've found in the way of lenses. I think it is amazing to take a lens from 1933 and throw it on one of the most high tech cameras! How cool is that.

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    Great photograph.

    Although watch for that smearing...oh, it's a Summar. Never mind.

    Just goes to show that resolution has little to do with a good photograph.

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    Re: Fun with 4/3rds cameras/ Image Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by robertasumendi View Post


    First post... hi!

    I just purchased my G1 and a small selection of lenses. This photo came from a 1933 Summar. It's such a fun lens.
    Beautiful photo. Congratulations on the "new" Summar and welcome to the forum.

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    Thanks all for the welcome.

    TEB: Robert actually Yeah, I've been waiting for this camera for a few years now... owned a Panasonic LC1 and loved the concept (and the lens!), never could really go for an RD1... this little wonder beats 'em both for a fraction of the price. Other lenses I've picked up: Canon FD 50/1.4 & 100/2, and a couple Industar-69's. I haven't adjusted the Industar for infinity focus yet but from what I can tell it'll be a great little bodycap for candids until the 20/1.7 arrives. Any IQ issues are definitely overshadowed by the fact that it's just sooooo cute.

    Monza: Smearing, is that what they call it? I love it, it removes any pixel-level trace of digital capture... ISO 100 looks like ASA 1 Pretty sharp too, I can't believe this lens gets a bad rep....

    Cindy: Thanks, the "new" Summar was scored on the 'Bay for $99, woohoo! Apparently no one wants an otherwise-perfect lens with a dented filter ring. Now I'm faced with the prospect of paying $40 for a front cap and $100+ for a hood....

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    yehh...Robert... You can find a hood that will work from heavystar @ the ebaY.. Caps too...

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    Robert, AWESOME first post and welcome to GetDPI!!!
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    Attachment 12513


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    All pictures: G1 with Leica Vario Elmarit 21-35mm/3.5-4 - ISO=100 - Raw Therapee
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    Peter, these look plenty sharp in the corners... which sharpening method did you use in Raw Therapee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Peter, these look plenty sharp in the corners... which sharpening method did you use in Raw Therapee?
    Brian, they look indeed sharp all over. I used Raw Therapee and also posted 100% corner and center crops in the Sean Reid thread

    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showth...?t=5566&page=7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    which sharpening method did you use in Raw Therapee?
    I did not get your question right, I used unsharp mask, I was not aware there was another method.
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    These are strictly for fun. Normally when I shoot stage shows, I go to the dress rehearsals and use big, "serious" equipment. But yesterday I dropped in to a weeknight Omaha Theater Ballet performance and tried some shots from the back of the house with the G1 and 100mm f/2 Canon rangefinder lens. I used ISO 1250 and f/2 for all; also auto white balance, which worked out better than I thought it would.

    (Don't worry, I had permission -- in fact, I was sitting next to the artistic director -- and the music in this show is loud enough to obliterate the G1's shutter noise. Heck, I could have fired a pistol... or, louder yet, a Bronica S2A... and no one would have noticed!)

    Harsh lighting, but I loved the movement of the skirt:


    I don't have any trouble catching peak action with the G1 once I get my eye "dialed in":


    This scene had moodier light and only allowed a shutter speed of 1/100, which wasn't quite enough for action-stopping... but I'm still keeping it:


    The costumer always appreciates a few more-static shots that show off her handiwork:


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    Great job, Ranger 9 !

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    Very nice, Ranger. I really enjoyed each one of these.

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    Excellent, Ranger!
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    I really enjoyed these--and I agree about the movement of the skirt in the first one.

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    Hi Ranger, very nice set and I enjoyed it very much.
    BTW, with the high IS0 did you experience a nosier background or the lighting on stage was bright enough. Reason I am asking is that I encounter nosier background een with ISO 400 if the background is shaded.
    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricseet View Post
    Hi Ranger, very nice set and I enjoyed it very much.
    BTW, with the high IS0 did you experience a nosier background or the lighting on stage was bright enough. Reason I am asking is that I encounter nosier background een with ISO 400 if the background is shaded.
    Thank you
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    I know what you mean -- images with near-black backgrounds seem more prone to show more noise (and not only with the G1; I see it on underexposed Nikon and Epson photos, too.)

    In this particular case, I think there was enough light on the backgrounds that it wasn't really an issue. There's a cyc (backcloth) behind the set, and this had some light on it, so that helped keep the exposure level up.

    I haven't had a chance to try it yet, but I suspect that rather than starting out by picking an ISO, a better way to work would be to set the minimum shutter speed and aperture I need for the situation, then adjusting the ISO to get the histogram as far to the right as possible without clipping highlights. That would make sure the shadow areas get the most exposure available. Something else to try...

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    Hi Ranger. that's a good tip and I will start trying that out for the next week. It makes lots of sense and should help. Thank you for the recommendation.

    cheers

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    Here is a wax doll of Chinese Genius Zhang Yimou, Producer of the Opening Ceremony of the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games. I used a Pentax 40mm f2.8 pacake lens on my Olympus 4/3 SLR - E330. ISO 200. Thanks for viewing. Leica 77.

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    Eewwww, that is kinda scary! If it weren't for the eyelashes and lack of ear hair, I could easily believe that was the real guy and not a waxwork. The 40/2.8 obviously picks up a LOT of detail.

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    Leica 77

    Can u adjust the f stop on the pancake when it is mounted on a 4/3?? I thought that there was no aperture ring on the Pentax pancake lenses.

    If so, that's a great shot for a wide open lens!!

    Please advise since I have some Pentax lenses and was wondering if they would work on a 4/3, or micro 4/3.

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    Hello Ranger 9 and Martin S,
    Many thanks for your positive feedback! The pentax pancake 40mm f2.8 that I used is an older SMC M type Pentax lens. It produces pretty sharp images even at f2.8, and I treasure the lens. As you know, with the older one, you can change the aperture. I have been using it on the new Lumix G1 as well. Please see the attached images. Once again, thanks for your kind feedback. Leica 77
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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    Thanks for that link Carl. I hadn't looked at his new project (but now added it in RSS feed). I wonder how much he will use the G1. As he said, new tools portend new fun (or something like that LOL).

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    A couple of snaps in the mall using the G1 with Canon FD 50mm f/1.2. I'm going on vacation soon and can't decide whether I should take along the Canon FD 50 1.2 or Pan/Leica 25 1.4 as my fast indoor lens. I'll also be packing the two kit lenses. Weight and space argue for the Canon, but the 25 has slightly better image quality and autofocus.




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    Do you think the 'normal' will be of more use for your style shooting--or a longer lens? Also, the AF may be a boon for travel.

    I had to look where you lived---in my area, shooting in the mall is verboten.

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    Hi Diane, Autofocus is nice, but when shooting with wide apertures I usually get more keepers with manual focus. They haven't kicked me out of the mall yet, but I was told not to use my camera in Home Depot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    Hi Diane, Autofocus is nice, but when shooting with wide apertures I usually get more keepers with manual focus. They haven't kicked me out of the mall yet, but I was told not to use my camera in Home Depot.

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    haha. Funny part is, anyone using a camera for the "wrong reasons" in a Home Depot (taking down prices?) would be doing it with a cell phone.

    I would think a normal lens would be more useful for indoor photos than a tele.

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    Diane and WB, You are both right that the shorter focal length would probably be better for most situations and I may end up taking the 25. I keep forgetting that I can easily "touch up" autofocus with the G1 using focus assist.

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    Hi !

    tonight, I made this "composite" picture :



    two exposures (one for hilights and one for shadows) merged with PaintShopPro X2, to get some details in the shadows, while maintaining good brightness in the candles

    G1 with 45-200 at 65 (132 eq), ISO 100 at 1/8s & f4.1
    on tripod, of course

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    Fun with Panasonic Lumix G1 with Rollei HFT 85mm Sonnar f2.8 (M42 mount) lens with adapters. Aperture wide open. Thank you for looking. Leica 77

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    Using the Kern Switar 25/1.4 today. First is I think f/8 or 11. I'm sure I could have used the kit lens, but what fun would that be? Forget about the corners.

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    This is a quick shot in my garage with my messy work area blurred out

    Kern Switar 25mm/1.4 at 1.4

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    Hey, wjlapier, do you happen to know whether your Switar is the standard or Rex version? (Rex is for Bolexes with reflex viewing, standard was for non-reflex Bolexes.)

    Rex and non-Rex lenses had exactly the same back focus distance (17.65mm, IIRC) but the Rex versions had different spherical aberration correction to account for the extra glass of the viewing prism. (Not all lenses needed a separate Rex version, so there may not be one for the 25/1.4.)

    The reason I'm curious is that in pictures taken with Switar lenses on this thread, I've noticed a difference in the out-of-focus areas: some seem to have blurs that look like little segments of concentric circles, others are normal-looking "blurry" blurs. I'm wondering whether Rex and non-Rex lenses might account for this difference.

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