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    My brother and his 'wife'. Shot in G1nimascope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    Nice shots, Bill. What's your favorite of the cine lenses so far?

    Summarit-M 50/1.5 @ f/2.0

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    I don't know. At first it was the Canon 50/1.8, then the Kern 25/1.4, then Som 1/1.9. The Kern 10/1.6 is very sharp wide open--when I can nail the focus It's a fun lens.

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    Kern 10/1.6. Shot about one foot from the statue.
    Bill,

    Thank you for sharing, you post some beautiful pictures. I am actively looking for W/A primes and by your posts the Kern 10 and 16 seem to be good candidates, although the 10mm seems to have some 'smearing' in the upper left corner and slight vignetting in the upper left and lower right corner that could be easily corrected in software.

    I cannot make out what happened to your SOM picture. The vases are super-sharp, but the lower part of the column and the steps are not, although they seem to be in the same area of focus. Also, everything along the left edge is unsharp. I have just "won" and am waiting to receive a 20mm/1.5 SOM Berthiot that I paid $340 and this picture makes me a bit worried.

    My usual questions:

    - Are the pictures you show full format or cropped?
    - Any software vignetting correction?
    - Lens opening

    Thank you in advance for your answers
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    An unknow pot flower, macro experiment

    Inspired by the flowers recently posted here (and by the weather as well...) I decided to try my Olympus OM50/2 Macro with a V2XMFTC on the G1:


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    Quote Originally Posted by robertasumendi View Post
    Not to obsess over this Summar but I can't get enough of this lens...
    I think the Summar came to good use! /Jonas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonas View Post
    Inspired by the flowers recently posted here (and by the weather as well...) I decided to try my Olympus OM50/2 Macro with a V2XMFTC on the G1
    Beautiful, Jonas it is evidently an excellent lens and a nice bokeh. Forgive my ignorance, what is V2XMFTC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by petermcwerner View Post
    Bill,

    Thank you for sharing, you post some beautiful pictures. I am actively looking for W/A primes and by your posts the Kern 10 and 16 seem to be good candidates, although the 10mm seems to have some 'smearing' in the upper left corner and slight vignetting in the upper left and lower right corner that could be easily corrected in software.

    I cannot make out what happened to your SOM picture. The vases are super-sharp, but the lower part of the column and the steps are not, although they seem to be in the same area of focus. Also, everything along the left edge is unsharp. I have just "won" and am waiting to receive a 20mm/1.5 SOM Berthiot that I paid $340 and this picture makes me a bit worried.

    My usual questions:

    - Are the pictures you show full format or cropped?
    - Any software vignetting correction?
    - Lens opening

    Thank you in advance for your answers
    Kind regards
    Peter
    Hi Peter. I don't think I have great news in regard to some of the OOF issues from this lens and others. I'm noticing that, with the SOM anyway, that when shot wide open the center is sharp as it should be, but from there it get's soft or smeary ( a word? ). Since I just noticed this I will pay more attention to the details of my shooting.

    I've been thinking that it would be a good idea to take some pictures of a white wall to show how different lenses vignette with different ratios and aperture settings. The Kern 10 and 16 do vignette so I shoot them in 16:9 and it helps some. I'll post a comparison picture before and after cropping to show how much vignetting.

    As for cropping and vignette fixing, and aperture. If I crop for web I use 600x900 pixels either orientation, and I try to crop out the vignette, but I'm not too concerned now about being perfect. I don't use any software to fix vignette. Yesterday I was shooting mostly 2.8--a few completely wide open. Those three shots above were 2.8 as it was too bright to shoot wide open. A few were stopped down, but those are still on my hard drive.

    Kern 10/1.6 full, and cropped with a little usm.

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    Thank you Bill for your answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by wjlapier View Post
    I don't think I have great news in regard to some of the OOF issues from this lens and others. I'm noticing that, with the SOM anyway, that when shot wide open the center is sharp as it should be, but from there it get's soft or smeary ( a word? ).
    smear·y
    adj. smear·i·er, smear·i·est
    1. Having been smeared.
    2. Tending to smear or soil.
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    I've been thinking that it would be a good idea to take some pictures of a white wall to show how different lenses vignette with different ratios and aperture settings.
    That is an excellent idea.

    The Kern 10 and 16 do vignette so I shoot them in 16:9 and it helps some. I'll post a comparison picture before and after cropping to show how much vignetting.
    These picture are a revelation and a very useful warning to me. I was about to buy one of these lenses but your uncropped picture convinced me not to. For the time being I shall explore in more depth the capabilities of my

    16mm/2.8 Zenitar

    or use the kit lens for W/A until I find a better alternative. Thank you again for sharing your experience

    Peter
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    Could be interesting to see how wide the 10 is, less the vignette, compared to the kit lens at it's widest. Another test

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    Yeah, it's not really a 10mm in the end if you have to crop away 1/3 of the picture...

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    Quote Originally Posted by petermcwerner View Post
    16mm/2.8 Zenitar[/URL]
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    Hi Peter,

    have you used this lens already on G1 or other 4/3 cameras ? Is it good ? Does it give fisheye effect on the G1 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by f6cvalkyrie View Post
    have you used this lens already on G1 or other 4/3 cameras ? Is it good ?
    I used it very little on the G1, Rafael, was too busy chasing c-mount lenses...

    Attachment 13380

    Here an example, not very good, weather was rainy, it was dark, mixed light, taken with ISO=640 fully open. The lens is capable of better results, see for instance a few shots on the M8. I promise I shall post more.

    Does it give fisheye effect on the G1 ?
    The fish-eye effect is very small even on the M8 and practically invisible on the G1. Look for instance at the vertical supports of the market stand.

    Cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by wblynch View Post
    Yeah, it's not really a 10mm in the end if you have to crop away 1/3 of the picture...
    I just did a quick test and it's a little wider than the kit lens, but not by much. 1-2mm effectively making it a 24-26/1.6 lens. The kit lens can focus very close too. There is a feature in the camera that allows you to crop an image which allows you to see it without the vignette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjlapier View Post
    I just did a quick test and it's a little wider than the kit lens, but not by much. 1-2mm effectively making it a 24-26/1.6 lens. The kit lens can focus very close too. There is a feature in the camera that allows you to crop an image which allows you to see it without the vignette.
    Though you can't argue with the F 1.6 part !!

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    Still, a 24mm f/1.6 is wider, and much faster than the kit lens. At the right price these wide cine lenses can still be good options. The 7-14/4 zoom will of course be the standard as it will not have smearing and will certainly cover the sensor, although it may have software corrections (I don't have any issue with that.) The questions on that lens are -- when, and how much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petermcwerner View Post
    I used it very little on the G1, Rafael, was too busy chasing c-mount lenses...

    The fish-eye effect is very small even on the M8 and practically invisible on the G1. Look for instance at the vertical supports of the market stand.

    Cheers
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    Thank you, Peter, for your fast reply !
    And I'm looking forward to seeing more pics of this combination !

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    Quote Originally Posted by petermcwerner View Post
    Beautiful, Jonas it is evidently an excellent lens and a nice bokeh. Forgive my ignorance, what is V2XMFTC?
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    Hi Peter,

    Thank you.

    No problem, it's a strange short for Vivitar 2x Macro Focusing Tele Converter. I had the aperture ring set to f/2.8 so with the OM50/2 the image was effectively taken at 100mm f/5.6. As I was pretty close the net result is a magnification around 1.2:1 (somewhat larger than life size). The lens and the V2XMFTC worked pretty well together.

    regards, /Jonas

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    Quote Originally Posted by f6cvalkyrie View Post
    Thank you, Peter, for your fast reply !
    And I'm looking forward to seeing more pics of this combination !
    Rafael, another fast one I took this morning in grey weather, just to show the picture quality. No fish-eye effect, see the edge on the building on the right and the lamppost on the left.

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    I like the fish Peter.

    Nikkor S-mount 13.5cm/3.5 at 3.5 or 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petermcwerner View Post
    Rafael, another fast one I took this morning in grey weather, just to show the picture quality. No fish-eye effect, see the edge on the building on the right and the lamppost on the left.
    Thanks, Peter, it really looks like a nice lens !
    However, the link I had found on ebay has disappeared. It was to a moscow based webshop, and the whole shop seems to have gone.

    So, where shall I get this now

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    Quote Originally Posted by f6cvalkyrie View Post
    Thanks, Peter, it really looks like a nice lens !
    However, the link I had found on ebay has disappeared.So, where shall I get this now
    Rafael,

    Threre are usually quite a few vendors based in Ukraine or Russia offering this lens on ebay in different mounts: M42, Nikon, Leica R. I bought one in Leica R mount from an Ukraine based ebay vendor. It was slightly more expensive than the usual M42. I do not remember who I bought it from, and the firm might no longer exist, but it arrived in good condition, packed like for an expedition to the South Pole and relatively fast (10 days).

    Yesterday I made several pictures with this lens on the G1; I shall publish some next week. BTW, under some circumstances I noticed a very slight barrel distortion (fish-eye effect). Usually it will not be disturbing but in some cases of architectural photos it might be important. I shall post an example, too.

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    My son's first track meet. He's not in these pics--I used the 80-200 AFS/D700 on him.

    Nikkor S mount 13.5cm/3.5 at 3.5.

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    Bill, don't you know, the G1 is incapable of action photos.

    Classic Nikkor look, very nice.

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    One from this morning (two ways - still playing around with it) - the underwater part of the rock looks pretty cool when larger on the screen.

    ISO 400 f10.0 13 seconds


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    Terry, what lens. The EXIF says 20mm FL. I particularly like the mono.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    Terry, what lens. The EXIF says 20mm FL. I particularly like the mono.

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    Thanks Diane - Kit lens.

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    Hi Terry,

    Were these captured on the same beach with your model on the M String?

    These are beautiful, and I loved the shots of the seal. Great stuff!

    Is this in CA?

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    Hi Gary,
    These were taken this morning at Garapata beach - south of Carmel north of Big Sur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    Bill, don't you know, the G1 is incapable of action photos.
    I think, Bill knew, but preferred to forget
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    One from this morning (two ways - still playing around with it) - the underwater part of the rock looks pretty cool when larger on the screen.

    ISO 400 f10.0 13 seconds


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    Attachment 13536
    Very nice, Terry !

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    Bill, don't you know, the G1 is incapable of action photos.

    Classic Nikkor look, very nice.



    Thanx!

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    Handheld, Bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    Bill, don't you know, the G1 is incapable of action photos.
    monza: Who said so and why?
    Bill: Excellent pictures
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    Handheld, Bill?
    I prefocused to the zone the athlete would eventually enter and fired away at 1 fps

    Yes, handheld.

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    New Pictures from the Frankfurt Anglerheim

    This time in colour, hope you like it.
    G1 with CV Heliar 75mm at ISO 1250.



    A Brasilian Lady, she was in the audience, joined surprisingly the group for some songs. It was great.
    This one is from the Nokton 40mm






    C&C welcome, thank you for looking, Karl

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    I really enjoy this whole thread, but the last pics hit home: Jazz and Ebbelwoi, how much better can it get? Greetings from a lurker from Mittelhessen, now exiled in Hawaii - where they have beer but no Ebbelwoi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friedel View Post
    New Pictures from the Frankfurt Anglerheim

    This time in colour, hope you like it.
    G1 with CV Heliar 75mm at ISO 1250.
    Thank you Karl. The Color Heliar is great. The subject is great. I like #1 and #2 even though the background is a bit cluttered on both of them. #3 is my favourite; the background is what it is (you can't decide everyting while at a club...) but there is a momentum and joy one can not avoid liking. #4 is adding to the series but not much by itself. Regards, /Jonas

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    Hanging out in the graveyard again

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    looks like a great cemetery to hang out in.

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    In between rain downpours today. Golden Raintree pods still remaining G1 with FD 35 f/2.8


    Some very nice images the last few days.

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    Love those jazz pics, Friedel! Brazilians just seem to be very spontaneous people...

    ...meanwhile, I just finished another Soundslides Plus "slideshow" with a lot of G1/M-mount lens images; you can see it here..

    (By the way, you can watch it in full-screen view if you click the little icon at lower right.)

    Teaser image:

    This one has a more elaborate soundtrack than the first one tried. I'm getting to where I kind of enjoy making these -- although it seems to require almost exactly the same time investment as doing a video of the same total length!

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    @ Karl : that's a nice club you have there, and some very nice shots. I especially like the # 3 and 4 !

    @ Diane : good that it stopped raining for a moment, lovely shot !

    @ ranger 9 : excellent work, that made me think immediately of a russian amateur film I saw recently, called "urok tanzevat" (the dancing lesson). If you can find it on the web, a must see !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger 9 View Post
    ...meanwhile, I just finished another Soundslides Plus "slideshow" with a lot of G1/M-mount lens images; you can see it here..
    Really great little slideshow Jim, which software did you use to put it together? Your attention to detail with the soundtrack really lifted the whole thing to a new level.

    Bravo!

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    Ranger, I really enjoyed the slideshow. The soundtrack pulled it all together and carried it to a new level as Brian says.

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    Re: Fun with 4/3rds cameras/ Image Thread

    Ranger great slideshow.
    Diane - love the shot and it is processed beautifully.

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    Ranger, I really enjoyed the slideshow. The soundtrack pulled it all together and carried it to a new level as Brian says.
    Thanks all, glad you liked the slideshow. There would be various ways to do it, but I used Soundslides Plus -- it lets you throw together a simple project really quickly, but gives a good level of control if you want to get fancier.

    My only real kick against it is that pan and zoom effects don't seem to be quite as smooth and sharp as those I get with another product, LQ Graphics' Photo to Movie. But the LQ product takes a lot more steps to get from initial images to finished product, so I gravitate toward Soundslides Plus unless the project is really motion-heavy.

    As Brian and Diane noted, I was surprised and pleased at how much the soundtrack helped kick up the overall effect. But that scares me a bit -- sound is really kind of its own interest area, and I'd hate to get to the point where I'm spending as much time and money collecting microphones as I already do on lenses and such!

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    Ranger, The slideshow was really outstanding. I enjoyed it!

    I went to Jacksonville beach this morning.
    G1 and long zoom.




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    Hi Ranger, I really enjoyed that clip that you put together. There were lots of great shoots as well. Very well done. BTW, which SW did you used to string them together?

    cheers

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    Re: Fun with 4/3rds cameras/ Image Thread

    I pass this reservoir on the way home from the school run... this morning, I managed to capture this lone tree on the far side using the really nice PanaLeica 14-150 on the E-30.

    E-30 + PL 14-150
    1/6400s f/6.3 at 117.0mm iso100


    I worked on the Raw image, which was initially converted to 16bit tiff using Oly Studio... finishing in LightZone which is a real pleasure to use for relighting.

    Kind Regards

    Brian

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    My Bottle-brush tree is blooming, so why not? G1 and Oly 50 f/2 macro.

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