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    Kevin, the horn player is superb! Great catch.

    Simon, fantastic shot, too!

    Thanks for sharing, guyus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simonclivehughes View Post
    Here's one from yesterday, G1 with kit 14-45 lens.

    Attachment 10975

    Cheers,
    Thats almost alien world looking, nice shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    What is your set up with the Macro lens? Is this the 90? How close can you focus. I'm assuming the macro adapter is a problem?
    Hi Terry,
    I could be wrong but I think you are addressing me here.
    The macro lens is an Leica R-lens [APO-MACRO-ELMARIT-R 1:2.8/100mm] attached to the G1 with two stacked Novoflex adapters: mFT/LEM and LEM/LER. Closest distance from subject to sensor is approx. 43cm or 21,5cm from subject to the front of the lenshood. For a picture see also: http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5028
    And I've got an Elpro on its way for even more magnification ...

    Kind regards.
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    Well, the Leica Apo Macro 100 is the typical "Out of this world Lens"
    Stunning picture quality....but lage and heavy, I simply love it.

    Until then see:
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    I went for a ride in the country today. I took the G1 with kit lens and my M8. Here are a few from the G1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jklotz View Post
    I went for a ride in the country today. I took the G1 with kit lens and my M8. Here are a few from the G1.
    Hi James, did you take any with your M8? it would be nice to see some for comparison?

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    Sure Brian, no problem. 1st is M8 w/ CV 35 2.5, wide open. Second is G1, kit lens, also wide open. Not difficult to tell which lens if faster, huh?

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    Thanks James, can't tell for sure but the M8 seems to be gentler on the DR also. Is the G1 shot from RAW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Mosley View Post
    Thanks James, can't tell for sure but the M8 seems to be gentler on the DR also. Is the G1 shot from RAW?

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    yes, both were shot in raw, processed in lr 2.2 with no additional processing

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    The G1 is so much sharper with a great deal of more detail in the image. Look at the metal gate, especially toward the bottom, looking closely at each rung. Then look at the grass and brown area. One nice thing on a Mac is you can zoom the image in or out letting you look at the details very closely.
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    jklotz

    think the same shot with the same lens with the G1 and the M8 would have been a more interesting comparison.. I do see tonal diffrnrcrs in the M8... but the G1 looks sharper

    everybody has a look they like

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    Have to be careful also with the contrast the G1 does have slightly more because of the DR. It will tend to look sharper but I agree it looks damn nice for sure. No slouch when it comes to image quality. Now don't tell Panasonic but for 650 bucks it's a screamer at least wait until I get mine. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by barjohn View Post
    The G1 is so much sharper with a great deal of more detail in the image. Look at the metal gate, especially toward the bottom, looking closely at each rung. Then look at the grass and brown area. One nice thing on a Mac is you can zoom the image in or out letting you look at the details very closely.
    how does one do that on a mac?

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    Here's a couple from yesterday at Stanley Park in Vancouver.


    Attachment 11008


    Attachment 11009

    I finally broke down and bought another body so I can have the 14-45 on one and the 45-200 on another. Makes shooting so much easier!

    Other new G1 photos are on my website.

    Cheers,
    Last edited by simonclivehughes; 12th July 2009 at 14:37.

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    Quote Originally Posted by back alley View Post
    how does one do that on a mac?
    Joe, using Safari, if you go to post #407, click on one of the images. You'll get a window that shows up with the image, and a "Go" box. Click on the image (don't click on Go.) The image will show in Safari, the cursor will be a + sign. Click on the image again to zoom in; click again to zoom out. It won't zoom if your window/display has more than enough pixels, like if you have a 30" Apple Cinema.

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    Simon the second one is worth framing. Nice capture
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinparis View Post
    jklotz

    think the same shot with the same lens with the G1 and the M8 would have been a more interesting comparison.. I do see tonal diffrnrcrs in the M8... but the G1 looks sharper

    everybody has a look they like

    peace
    K
    Kevin, I agree with you. Unfortunately I'm still waiting on my adaptor for the G1 to M so I can do it. I really had not gone out today with the intentions of comparing the 2 cameras, but when Brian asked, it just so happened that I had the same shot that I had taken on both cameras, so I posted them. When my adaptor comes, I'll probably do some more meaningful comparisons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Hi Terry,
    I could be wrong but I think you are addressing me here.
    The macro lens is an Leica R-lens [APO-MACRO-ELMARIT-R 1:2.8/100mm] attached to the G1 with two stacked Novoflex adapters: mFT/LEM and LEM/LER. Closest distance from subject to sensor is approx. 43cm or 21,5cm from subject to the front of the lenshood. For a picture see also: http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5028
    And I've got an Elpro on its way for even more magnification ...

    Kind regards.
    Yes, it was me and I didn't recognize the name of the lens not realizing it was R and not M. I have a whole new lens lineup to learn

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    The way you zoom with the Mac is to hold down the control key and roll the scroll ball. You can go up or bring it back down.
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    John, what about with a regular mouse (no scroll ball) or trackpad? Any tricks for that?

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    There is another way to do it using the keyboard but I am not familiar with it. This is NOT a safari feature, it is part of the Mac screen interface. With the finder menu go to help and type zoom and you will be given the various methods.
    V/r John

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    Simon great shots and beautiful B&W conversion.
    V/r John

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    OK you are talking about Zoom under the Universal Access pref pane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    Joe, using Safari, if you go to post #407, click on one of the images. You'll get a window that shows up with the image, and a "Go" box. Click on the image (don't click on Go.) The image will show in Safari, the cursor will be a + sign. Click on the image again to zoom in; click again to zoom out. It won't zoom if your window/display has more than enough pixels, like if you have a 30" Apple Cinema.
    cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barjohn View Post
    The way you zoom with the Mac is to hold down the control key and roll the scroll ball. You can go up or bring it back down.
    very cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Simon the second one is worth framing. Nice capture
    Quote Originally Posted by barjohn View Post
    Simon great shots and beautiful B&W conversion.
    Thanks, gents. I'm really finding this camera a gas! As I mentioned, I now have two bodies and carrying them around is just so easy with their light weight and small size. The image quality, as we are all seeing, is just superb.

    John, I'm using Nik Silver Efx Pro for my B&W conversions. It has such a wealth of templates from which to start as well as very comprehensive (and subtle if you desire it) control.

    Ciao,

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    Simon, I love both shots.

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    In pure envy over all your nice G1 shots, I just had to go back through some old E-1 images. Here's one from Poipet in Cambodia, around two years ago.

    E-1 with OM Zuiko 100mm f/2.8, @ f/4 or 5.6


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    I went to another collector car auction today and took the G1 with the Oly 50 f/2 macro. These are some detail shots.








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    Cindy, those look great. Next year I will have to check out the car shows. I'm not a car freak but I think these detail shots are a lot of fun!

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    Wow Cindy, these are gorgeous!

    Were these handheld? Beautifully sharp, and delightful tonality.

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    Thank you Terry and Brian.
    These were handheld using the "Vivek" method at waist level. I used the viewfinder only when the sun was blinding (as the Arizona sun can be.) Some of the cars were under a tent and some were out in the sun.

    That Oly 50 f/2 is a wonderful lens for details.

    Terry, maybe you can join me next year for a day at Barrett-Jackson. It is really fun.

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    Cindly:

    simply lovely....great shots.

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    Cindy
    Fab Car shots - really good
    Simon
    Great black and white
    Jorgen - resistance is useless, I'd have thought this camera was pretty much made for your street stuff.

    Now I've got to get mine back from Tim!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Jorgen - resistance is useless, I'd have thought this camera was pretty much made for your street stuff.

    Now I've got to get mine back from Tim!
    It seems to be just what I need. Still not available here though, not to speak about the big, empty hole in my bankbook

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post
    I went to another collector car auction today and took the G1 with the Oly 50 f/2 macro. These are some detail shots.
    Cindy, Wow! Gorgeous detail shots. That Oly 50 f/2 macro seems to be very sharp and yields beautiful tonality on the G1.

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    Terrific shots Cindy. Like Terry, I'm not a big car fan, but occasionally go to a car show with my husband. Last time I was not photographically interested enough to take anything but a G9, but will have my G1 in tow next time (esp. for the classic car shows). Love the lens on the G1.

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    Thank you Klaus, Jono, Carl and Diane.
    If anyone is looking for a sharp macro lens for the G1, the 50 f/2 Oly macro fits the bill. It balances nicely on the G1. I took it to the car auction along with the 12mm CV helier and had a nice, light, quality kit.

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    Nice shots Cindy. I think the 50/2 is probably too much for the G1.

    Here is one (a crop) with a 0.7X wide converter on the kitzoom (set to 14mm).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Nice shots Cindy. I think the 50/2 is probably too much for the G1.

    Here is one (a crop) with a 0.7X wide converter on the kitzoom (set to 14mm).

    Nice shot Vivek.
    Would you please explain about the teleconverter that you are using and also why you think the 50 f/2 is too much for the G1???

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    Hi Cindy, The first shot (even this winter sunlight) of the chrome steering wheel is blown because of the low DR of the G1. Another camera should have been able handle that, I would think. The 50/2 has good contrast and would need a bit subdued lighting (with lesser contrast as in in your 2nd and 3rd shots) for the G1 to catch all the details that lens can deliver.

    The 0.7x wide converter is something I had for my Nikon kitzoom (18-55 AFS II, specifically for IR), called "Digital King". It is already in 52mm screw thread. It is a single (glass) element wide converter with the front about 82mm diameter. It works on the G1's kit zoom as well. Only problem with that converter is that while widening the field of view, also lengthens the infinity focus. As a result, the close focus distances of the kit zoom becomes longer (~0.5m instead of 0.3m at 14mm and even longer at longer focal lengths). If you want fairly inexpensive (it isn't cheap though, cost me 50 Euros, almost the same cost as the Nikon kit zoom!) ultrawide with all the auto things that the kitzoom offers, this could be it. The expected distortions are all there though.

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    I do not photograph television and never thought it will be this difficult!



    Anyone had a chance to be in DC?

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    The G1 has become a personal favorite. Both of the current G1 lens are good, I do have the novoflex adapter but have not had much of a change to use it - just yet.

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/...54c6c8ff_o.jpg
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3184/...09299804_o.jpg
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/...07633ae7_o.jpg
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3246/...6065f299_o.jpg
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/...6e664a73_o.jpg

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    Terry, you can also display the images inline if you insert them using the appropriate [IMG] ..[/IMG] tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Terry, you can also display the images inline if you insert them using the appropriate [IMG] ..[/IMG] tag.
    Thank you so much Vivek. I will give that a try, I was just a little unsure how to do that.

    I am certainly enjoying this forum.

    Best regards. Terry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Hi Cindy, The first shot (even this winter sunlight) of the chrome steering wheel is blown because of the low DR of the G1. Another camera should have been able handle that, I would think. The 50/2 has good contrast and would need a bit subdued lighting (with lesser contrast as in in your 2nd and 3rd shots) for the G1 to catch all the details that lens can deliver.
    ....snip....
    Vivek, Thanks for the info on the adapter.
    I put the steering wheel photo into PS and you are right. There are blown hightlights on the S. I don't want the G1 to be blamed for my sloppy processing in Silkypix. I put the file through the dng converter and into Capture One and re-processed it (below). Thanks for pointing this out to me. BTW, no winter doldrums or dreary skies here in the Valley of the Sun"!


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    Terry,

    Absolutely loved the photos. The shot of the fur protester reminded me of a wonderful story.

    Five years ago, I had the good fortune of flying to Vancouver on business (which by the way, in my opinion, has won the geography lotto---the sea-to-sky highway is drop dead gorgeous!) and was staying at the Four Seasons. As you may know the hotel is attached to a very posh shopping mall. As you leave the hotel lobby and enter the Mall, across from it at the time was a very high end fur salon. Knowing that there was a hew and cry in the U.S. at least about wearing fur and seeing the very open salon I walked up to the pretty sales woman sitting at a very nice desk in the middle of the salon. She was surrounded by some of the most beautifully assembled furs I'd ever seen.

    I asked her if she was concerned about fur groups assaulting her establishment. She looked up at me and said in her best Vancouver accent, "Are you kidding? This is Canada!"

    Again, great photos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    Terry,

    Absolutely loved the photos. The shot of the fur protester reminded me of a wonderful story.

    Five years ago, I had the good fortune of flying to Vancouver on business (which by the way, in my opinion, has won the geography lotto---the sea-to-sky highway is drop dead gorgeous!) and was staying at the Four Seasons. As you may know the hotel is attached to a very posh shopping mall. As you leave the hotel lobby and enter the Mall, across from it at the time was a very high end fur salon. Knowing that there was a hew and cry in the U.S. at least about wearing fur and seeing the very open salon I walked up to the pretty sales woman sitting at a very nice desk in the middle of the salon. She was surrounded by some of the most beautifully assembled furs I'd ever seen.

    I asked her if she was concerned about fur groups assaulting her establishment. She looked up at me and said in her best Vancouver accent, "Are you kidding? This is Canada!"

    Again, great photos.

    Peter
    Great story Peter, and so true. Vancouver is to say the least very relaxed. Even the protest outside the Vancouver Hotel, was relaxed. I had a great chuckle and thank you for that.

    Best regards. Terry

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    Re: Fun with 4/3rds cameras/ Image Thread

    Wonderful series, Terry.

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