Just this guy you know
Wish someone would buy my 520 so I can get one of these.
fourthirdsphoto.com did a side by side photo shoot between the G1 and E-30, the G1 killed the E-30 IMO. I downloaded the full sized bridge photos and compared them in PS at 100%. Much better fine detail with the G1 must have a weaker AA filter? Here's the link:
Here is a quick shot I did yesterday (using my dad's terminology) a 'common garden variety' Nikkor 50/1.8 pancake on the G1. 1/80s, ISO 100, I think at f/2.8. If anyone is interested, control click to d/l the raw file.
(I shot this with a Nokton 40/1.4 but it didn't turn like I wanted, it simply won't focus close enough. This is one of the downsides of using M lenses compared to using SLR lenses on the G1.)
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Monza, that Nikkor panckae renders very nicely, I like it! Also, great point on MFD for the SLR lenses versus the M lenses...
I had forgotten about that OUFRO post...good point.
No, he means the lenses themselves red! I myself found it somewhat pointless to offer the body in red or blue but the lenses only in black. The blue I could see if the lenses matched.
Personally, I found this a bit ugly on the red one, but that¬īs me. I chose the blue one; it is far more "understated".
But the images are identical from all three of them, I presume...
You don't get your own personalised firmware with the appropriate tint added to the photos to match your camera? Shame..
I am not a painter, nor an artist. Therefore I can see straight, and that may be my undoing. - Alfred Stieglitz
Is this forum getting commission from Panasonic? +1 to the list of G1 owners and its all down to this place (or, more accurately, the fact it will use all my rangefinder lenses relatively painlessly). I wonder if Panasonic's engineers/marketeers expected this? Or was it a happy mistake that they made their camera such a lenswhore?
I don't think it's a mistake... the G1's popularity amongst serious photographers is almost entirely due to the ELVIS assisted MF for legacy lenses.
Panasonic have created a great opening for themselves into this m4/3rds market - and if they can resume their partnership with Leica there's no reason why they can't supply a range of professional quality lenses.
Olympus would do well to get started immediately, converting their superb ZD lenses to m4/3rds imho.
I think the big breakthrough for Panasonic will be HD video with the G2 and beyond. I suspect the success of the G1 will push them on with confidence... the price of the G1 is already dropping dramatically in the UK (£120 down from launch price) - I wonder if they're clearing stock ready for the G2 launch?
Anyhow, exciting times ahead - with the Olympus m4/3rds offering due this year...
I wish we got a commission.
As owners of this site , Jack and I are really excited our members have found a camera that is fun and folks have a lot to share about it and it's potential. This is what a forum should be and our mantra a place to learn, share and most of all have fun.
Fun sums it up almost entirely, its a wonderful creative tool
This little camera opens up so many creative possibilities that it is rapidly becoming a must have camera. It's ability to use so many different lenses and ease of use, small size and excellent IQ have made it a must have for those with Leica lenses wanting an easy to focus camera. And.. as others have stated it is just plain fun!
That might have to be adopted to all our middle names. LOL
I think I just about convinced myself to join the G1 crowd as well after holding off on buying a LX3/ GX200. Now I just need to sell my Canon Digital Rebel kit (to go along with all the Christmas gift cards) to ease the "financial pain." The e420 looks nice too and there are great deals to be had on it as well but I think the versatility of the G1 has won me over.
Oh yeah and does anyone know if Aperture supports the G1 yet. If not does anyone know if it will soon? I will use the included software I guess until it does though.
Raw developer works fine with it on the Mac as does LR 2.2.
Oh boy, i am a lenswhore too. I do own legacy glasses for my Oly.
Tamron SP90 2.5 and some Leica R-primes.... oh oh i am lost
Klaus (LH) W.
For my next businesscard printing
Have to say, this is a great little camera! I just printed up a pair of 16x22's that my son shot and they look great. Very impressed here
Here are his two shots:
Hi guys, just went through the thread and as someone who ownes various small cameras (GRD, GX100, DP1) as an addition to my M8, D3 and MF I have somewhat the conclusion that everything which doesnt fit in a pocket would have no real advantage compared to the M8. I dont use the Ricohs at all since I am not happy with the IQ. The dp1 is fine but limited regarding f4.0 and color cast if you go over 400 ISO.
So for now the M8+28/2.0 is my "mobile" camera.
I wonder in which regard you feel the g1 has any advantage? isnt it too big for a shirt-pocket, but too small to offer a compfortable grip and user interface?
whats the real benefit? I ask because I am interested and not because I want to bash.
IMO the advantage is you get 1) excellent image quality, 2) very accurate AF, 3) short shutter lag, 4) an effective 28-90 zoom lens of very good quality, 5) and all for $700 or less! Or stated another way, you get an entire system that makes excellent images for about half the cost of Leica's cheapest M lens
But no, it is *NOT* a 'replacement' for the M8 by any stretch!
Jack, nice photos from your son. I'm curious if the second was taken with the 14-45 or the 45-200--it could be either from the EXIF. I'm guessing maybe the 14-45 since that's what the first was taken with , but.....
When I don't need speed or high ISO (or need something small, light or invisible) it subs for the D700. Shutter as quiet as a film M.
And it's fun to use.
The only downsides I've seen in my limited playing with it are that the kit lens is slow so it can struggle in very low light, and the fact that I have fairly big hands and I'm not sure that it would be comfortable for me to carry in my right hand for extended periods of time...a tad too small/short. But I haven't tried yet, mostly since it is the g/f's camera. She loves it though, and used it over the weekend for it's primary job - documenting her sculpture work. She shot it back to back with a DLux3 and was *very* happy with the G1.
I just committed to the G1 and have both LTM and M adapters on order from JLM. I figure I may as well get lots of use from those super M lenses.
A nice comfortable wrist strap makes it easy to carry no matter how big or small your hands are.
Those are stunning pictures. I like the first one in particular.
thanks folks! I am happy my son is taking a liking to photography and he obviously has an eye for it -- better than his old man's
Anyway, I am very impressed with the output from this little camera.
Jack: how old is your son? I ask because I'd like to pique my son interest in photography, though it's probably a bit early (he's only 5).
First off, Jack...STELLAR PHOTOS! Thanks for sharing.
I'll add to what Jack and Monza have said. I went from film to digital and for the most part have been happy with the results. But the equipment for the most part has left me wanting. Nothing wrong with in terms of image making per se...in fact quite extraordinary. But a lot of the DSLR's just seemed to be like scaled up film cameras that made me feel like I was wielding a Pentax 6x7 or even a Hasselblad. There was a lot of heft but I like to be a bit more inconspicuous when I shoot. I wanted to like them. I was actually hell bent on buying Nikon's D300 or the D700 (until I actually picked one up and held it) or Canon's new 5D (also a bit on the big side) but they felt like rocks. And I'd seen other photographers out and about hauling these things and it just seemed to be so much weight for photography.
I also liked a lot of the littler point and shoots (in particular the Panasonic LX series with its Leitz designed lenses) but often felt, while certainly pocket-able and capable, I wanted a something a little more. Sometimes the light was too much for the sensor and despite the RAW files they could produce the results were still far from my satisfaction.
So I kept an eye out for something else. Something that might offer alternative optics if one should choose. Optics that had a reputation for really impressive images and that the camera could make the most of its capabilties (i.e. it had a halfway decent sensor, image processor and firmware).
Enter the G1.
Life is an infinite series of moments called..."now".
My job is to capture them.
I just handled a G1 and have to say I am impressed and was very close to buy one. Much faster than I thought, feels much better in hand than I thought, and the EVF also looks better than I thought.
I can see how it is fun to use it.