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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    Who needs that old D810 anyway? And the E-M1... that large, clunky old box... GM5 it is

    Jpeg out of the camera. No adjustments except slight brightness and slight sharpening.

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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    This is a very cool little lens

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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    This is the kit, 510 grams in all:
    GM5, 12-32mm f/3.5-5.6, 35-100mm f/4.0-5.6 and 25mm f/1.7.

    I might add a portrait lens (Panasonic 42.5mm f/1.7, Zuiko 60mm f/2.8 Macro or Zuiko 75mm f/1.8) later, plus the Samyang 7.5mm Fisheye.



    What's fantastic is that the camera, apart from the size, basically has a user interface and sensor technology more or less on level with any other m4/3 camera. There's no excuse not to take decent photos with this kit. Video is pretty good too
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    Time for a selfie, my first in 10 years or so

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    GM5 with Pana 35-100mm f/4-5.6 @ 100mm and f/5.6

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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Time for a selfie, my first in 10 years or so

    Well Jorgen,

    you do not look any older than 10 years ago, how are you doing that????

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Well Jorgen,

    you do not look any older than 10 years ago, how are you doing that????
    Simple: Just look old as Methuselah from the outset
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    And since I've already posted a selfie in hopeless lighting, here's a bokeh test from the restaurant later in the evening, in even worse lighting. Bokeh is nice though, particularly considering this is a $200 plastic lens

    GM5 with Pana 25mm f/1.7 @ f/1.7

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    Well Jorgen,

    you do not look any older than 10 years ago,
    You're quite right - Jorgen doesn't look any older in his selfie (I HATE that word!)
    than he does in his Avatar
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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    I cannot say that my GAS is permanently killed, but with the current state of affairs, it's increasingly difficult to find rational arguments for buying new, expensive gear. When I look at the sharpness, colours, contrast and to a certain degree even bokeh that I'm able to achieve with the $400 GM5 and the $200, collapsible Pana 12-32mm f/3.5-5.6, a combo that weighs well under 300 grams including battery and SD-card and that includes a decent viewfinder, I wonder if I'll ever need a big, clunky box between my hands again.

    I might buy a GX85 to get IBIS, an articulated LCD and 4K video, but beyond that... I don't know. During the last two days that I spent in Yangon, the E-M1 and 40-150mm f/2.8 didn't even leave the camera bag.

    GM5 with Pana 12-32mm f/3.5-5.6 @ 18mm and f/4.2 (wide open)



    100%, lower right corner, no sharpening:

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    GM5 with Pana 35-100mm f/4-5.6 @ 68mm, f/5.5 and ISO 6400

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    ..........An interesing thread and set of nice pics.

    I saw and handled the GM5 with 12-32 at the branch of John Lewis in Cambridge (UK) recently and it certainly is a neat and small combo! I'm interested now in a replacement for my 4 year old Sony NEX 3 which makes superb files but has no v/f and compares very poorly with the jewel like GM5.......

    In your pics the first is nice and sharp with good resolution but the temple scenes are very grainy (due to the high iso, presumably) ...in the 'sweetcorn & peanuts' still life there appears to be quite bad flare in the centre of the frame despite apparently continuous lighting........ Somehow m34 never looks quite as good as APS-C in so many pics posted on this site,...so, I don't know.......... How does the GM5 do in prints?....what size do you print to (if you make prints) Interested.

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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    Bugleone,

    It is steam if I am not mistaken and not flare in the corn and nuts shot. The lenses are quite good optical performers. Absolutely no equivalence in the Sony line up and also there is no chance of it happening ever in the future.

    ISO400 and the noise rears up. No need to go to higher sensitivities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Bugleone,

    It is steam if I am not mistaken and not flare in the corn and nuts shot. The lenses are quite good optical performers. Absolutely no equivalence in the Sony line up and also there is no chance of it happening ever in the future.

    ISO400 and the noise rears up. No need to go to higher sensitivities.
    Vivek is right of course. It's steam. The 12-32mm is the best value lens I've ever owned, and apart from the short zoom range, there are hardly any weaknesses. The 35-100mm flares more easily if there's a strong light source in the frame. I can post an example later.

    Although there's grain at ISO 6400, the images are still very usable. I'll make some prints later and see how they look.
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    Anybody have the red body? I'm wondering if it is too noticeable or if it is muted. I assume the photos will not be tinted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot View Post
    Anybody have the red body? I'm wondering if it is too noticeable or if it is muted. I assume the photos will not be tinted.
    No, but I have a green photo

    GM5 with Pana 35-100mm f/4-5.6 @ 68mm and f/5.5



    I wouldn't worry about the colour of the body. It's so small that people don't notice it anyway. If I'm buying a second one, I might buy a red one to know which is which
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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    More experimenting with the GM5. I've found that I can get much more out of m4/3 RAW files than thought was possible. I just have to be a lot bolder when doing the post processing.

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    GM5 with Pana 25mm f/1.7 @ f/2

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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    I posted a photo of this woman almost 8 years ago. Much has happened and much have changed since then.

    GM5 with Pana 35-100mm f/4-5.6 @ 83mm and f/5.6



    This is 8 years ago, taken with the Fuji S5 and Nikkor 85mm f/1.8 (I think):

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    GM5 with Pana 35-100mm f/4-5.6 @ 75mm, f/5.6 and ISO 2,500

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    GM5 with Pana 25mm f/1.7 @ f/2

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    GM5 with Pana 12-32mm f/3.5-5.6 @ 20mm and f/4.6

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    GM5 with Pana 35-100mm f/4-5.6 @ 71mm and f/5.5

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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    Jorgen, #72 will likley be banned on facebook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Jorgen, #72 will likley be banned on facebook.
    I would feel honored

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    GM5 with Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 @ f/2.2

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    GM5 with Pana 12-32mm f/3.5-5.6 @ 25mm and f/5.1

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    GM5 with Panasonic 25mm f/1.7 @ f/2.2

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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    I agree with you about the GM5. The little camera has an amazing well thought out interface, ergonomics and it's very fast to operate.

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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    I so love this camera. The best I've had since the original OM-1

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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    How do these photos print, say at 13x19"?

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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot View Post
    How do these photos print, say at 13x19"?
    13x19" is no problem. With the best lenses, like the 25mm prime, I can print larger and still maintain sharp details.
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    How do these photos print, say at 13x19"?
    Funny you ask- I did that test just three days ago on Epson R2880, Ultra Premium Exhibit (or whatever that name is) Matte paper and yes, it's still pretty sharp.

    I still wish for a GM7 with the new 20MP sensor and no AA filter, but until Panasonic hopefully can make a plan to make the GM line profitable enough for them, the GM5 will do.

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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    Quote Originally Posted by raist3d View Post

    I still wish for a GM7 with the new 20MP sensor and no AA filter, but until Panasonic hopefully can make a plan to make the GM line profitable enough for them, the GM5 will do.

    - Ricardo
    I've noticed that GM5 prices on eBay have gone up a lot since I bought mine 10 months ago, so maybe people are starting to discover this great little camera. I would buy a GM6/7/8 too, with 4K and no AA filter
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    I really appreciate what you accomplish with the GM5.

    If I get anything, though, I am more likely to go for the bigger GX85 as it comes down in price, or maybe the Olympus E-M10ii because of the better viewfinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot View Post
    I really appreciate what you accomplish with the GM5.

    If I get anything, though, I am more likely to go for the bigger GX85 as it comes down in price, or maybe the Olympus E-M10ii because of the better viewfinder.
    I did try the GX85 the other day, believing it could serve as a compact body number two or a replacement for the GM5. It's tempting, since it has 4K as well as IBIS. However, it's very much bigger and twice the weight, so I shelved it for now. What absolutely amazes me with the GM5 are the very good ergonomics for such a tiny camera. I expected it to be awkward to use, but it isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    I did try the GX85 the other day, believing it could serve as a compact body number two or a replacement for the GM5. It's tempting, since it has 4K as well as IBIS. However, it's very much bigger and twice the weight, so I shelved it for now. What absolutely amazes me with the GM5 are the very good ergonomics for such a tiny camera. I expected it to be awkward to use, but it isn't.
    I have to agree with all you said. The GX85 looks like a great deal.. and it is! - except that it's just not a GM line camera... as you said it's bigger, weights more. The PenF is about the same size though I find Panasonic's AF and usability much superior (The PenF does have great files though).

    Even if Panasonic just added a firmware upgrade with RAW conversion to the GM5 I would be very happy but I don't see them doing that.

    I completely agree on the ergonomics. The GM5 just feels right and yet it's so tiny. The only other camera I can think of this size with this ergonomics is the Pentax Q/ Ricoh GR. Nikon 1 J4/J5 comes close... if Nikon just fixed a couple of annoyances they would be also pretty great (it's pretty good as it is).

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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    Enough talk. Here's a train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Enough talk. Here's a train.

    GM5 with 35-100mm f/4-5.6 @ 100mm and f/5.6

    This seems to be a good illustration of what makes a micro four thirds camera potentially such a great tool, and that is the use of its inherent DOF. Here the entire frame is the subject, providing not just the arrival of the locomotive the event, but information about the whole train.

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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    Quote Originally Posted by Elliot View Post
    This seems to be a good illustration of what makes a micro four thirds camera potentially such a great tool, and that is the use of its inherent DOF. Here the entire frame is the subject, providing not just the arrival of the locomotive the event, but information about the whole train.
    It's a question of photographic style. I am usually looking for depth to be able to tell a story, and then the extended DOF suits me very well. Others may see it as a limitation. It does force me to concentrate on the entire frame though, which I do, and with subjects in motion, that also means trying to predict when different subjects will be in the optimal position relative to each other.
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    Re: Fun with Lumix GM5

    Because of this threat and Joegen's posts in particular, I bought the plasticky lens 12-32 for around 70 Usd. Will report back how it performs on my m43 body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teeraash View Post
    Because of this threat and Joegen's posts in particular, I bought the plasticky lens 12-32 for around 70 Usd. Will report back how it performs on my m43 body.
    That's the spirit!

    Do you or have you owned the GX8 by the way? I consider buying a used one to complement the GM5 and to use instead of the E-M1 when I don't need 4/3 lenses. I'm looking for some honest user experiences.
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    That's the spirit!

    Do you or have you owned the GX8 by the way? I consider buying a used one to complement the GM5 and to use instead of the E-M1 when I don't need 4/3 lenses. I'm looking for some honest user experiences.
    I love tbe gx8 very much except for few things. The ois is terrible with lenses that dont have ois but working extremely well with lenses that enable dual ois. Exposure compensation dial is situated too far for my thumb to reach. On a positive side, its IQ is very good, SAF is extremely fast. I can do street shooting with nocticron 42.5 wo at 1.2 in dim before dawn light, just lift the camera up and shoot away. I am certain that fuji xt2 with 56/1.2 is no match for the gx8 combo in this regard. Only thing that stop my itchy fingers from hitting a buy button to have the gx8 back is a thought that pana may release the 9 some time next year. Hope that this time around they copy fuji xt2 lcd screen so we can have both a tilt-up screen for street shooting and a fully swivel screen for movie&selfie in the same camera. In a mean while I'll have to use all my m43 lenses with the pen-f . Having both pana and oly bodies is not really a bad idea as lumix lenses will be optimized for the lumix bodies and vice versa for the oly's lenses. Besides, Oly 25/1.2 Pro is kind of tempting as this is my fav focal lenght. Hope they have a discount on this lens on the upcoming photofair.

    BTW, I played with the m1 ii & 12-100mm early this week and I know right away that this camera is not for me. Too big, too heavy, too fast not to say too expensive!
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    I love tbe gx8 very much except for few things. The ois is terrible with lenses that dont have ois but working extremely well with lenses that enable dual ois. Exposure compensation dial is situated too far for my thumb to reach. On a positive side, its IQ is very good, SAF is extremely fast. I can do street shooting with nocticron 42.5 wo at 1.2 in dim before dawn light, just lift the camera up and shoot away. I am certain that fuji xt2 with 56/1.2 is no match for the gx8 combo in this regard. Only thing that stop my itchy fingers from hitting a buy button to have the gx8 back is a thought that pana may release the 9 some time next year. Hope that this time around they copy fuji xt2 lcd screen so we can have both a tilt-up screen for street shooting and a fully swivel screen for movie&selfie in the same camera. In a mean while I'll have to use all my m43 lenses with the pen-f . Having both pana and oly bodies is not really a bad idea as lumix lenses will be optimized for the lumix bodies and vice versa for the oly's lenses. Besides, Oly 25/1.2 Pro is kind of tempting as this is my fav focal lenght. Hope they have a discount on this lens on the upcoming photofair.

    BTW, I played with the m1 ii & 12-100mm early this week and I know right away that this camera is not for me. Too big, too heavy, too fast not to say too expensive!
    Thank you, Khun Teera. I will be picking up a used GX8 on Monday at you know where

    I'll keep the E-M1 for now, for use with the PanaLeica 14-50 and the Zuiko 40-150, but if I'm satisfied with how the GX8 works and if it can AF reasonably fast with the PanaLeica (4/3 lens), I might sell the E-M1 and 40-150 and go for the PanaLeica 100-400 instead, since that will give me much more reach and dual IS.
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    Don't forget to use auto electronic first curtain shutter or whatever they call it. The gx8 will automatically switches to efcs for certain lenses at certain shutter speed ranges. Ive never notice ss with this camera no matter how hard I tried to find. Probably I dont have problem plaqued lenses that dpreview has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    That's the spirit!

    Do you or have you owned the GX8 by the way? I consider buying a used one to complement the GM5 and to use instead of the E-M1 when I don't need 4/3 lenses. I'm looking for some honest user experiences.
    Well, I know I'm pretty 'pleased' with my GX8. I bought one because of biglouis. Yeah - I'm quite sure he's the one to blame ...
    Compared to the EM1-I it's only the GX8's fully articulated screen that I'm not too sure off.

    While we are at it: you may consider too that lovely 15/1.7 ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Well, I know I'm pretty 'pleased' with my GX8. I bought one because of biglouis. Yeah - I'm quite sure he's the one to blame ...
    Compared to the EM1-I it's only the GX8's fully articulated screen that I'm not too sure off.

    While we are at it: you may consider too that lovely 15/1.7 ...

    Kind regards.
    I've been considering the 15mm for quite a while. It's a question of time... and money
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    I have the 15mm but contemplating to add the oly 17mm to my arsenal. It's not the IQ, sharpness or anything like that. It is mainly the focal lenght. Although only 2mm diff but I do remember that I had more fun and more productive time with the 17mm than the 15mm.

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    GM5 with Pana 35-100mm f/4-5.6 @ 100mm and f/6.3

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    GM5 with Pana 35-100mm f/4-5.6 @ 35mm and f/6.3

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