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Having fun with the E-P1

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Diane B

New member
Godfrey said:
Not that I believe the G1 sensor is on par with the DR of a sensor with 3.5x the area ... but I found on testing the G1 for DR that given the fact that the metering is not protective of highlights AND the set ISO is about .3-.5 EV pessimistic. This means its easy to overexpose highlights. Dial in a -.3 to -.5 EV Exposure compensation setting, and its DR is right in line with L1, E-1 and K10D bodies at around 9.5 stops (K10D is best at 10.5 stops and the L1/E-1 turn 10 stops).

Works well enough for me. :)
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I did and do--and even more. This was a very extreme situation, I grant you, and had I been thinking better, I would have just bracketed at the amount I needed and done a manual blend. I was shooting primarily with the 5D for this--and thought I'd try the G1 in same conditions. In most other more 'normal' conditions I've been able to work from a RAW and be happy. This time not--but it taught me to take more time and think about what the camera and RAW file are capable of. Traveling with another--and being in the way of other photographers--makes one do things more quickly than I'd like.

Diane
 
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Diane B

New member
kai.e.g. said:
There are a couple of very nervous-looking EF lenses in my cupboard which have not been used for some time, and whose combined resale value just happens to equate to the price of a 2-lens EP-1 kit....
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Hmmmm---I've been looking at my shelf for a bit now--same--EF lenses that don't see much time on the camera.

Diane
 
Robert Campbell

Robert Campbell

Well-known member
kai.e.g. said:
... more easily, could one similarly rig up a little shoe-mounted 3.5" screen which would be viewed straight down (ie, like a Hasselblad or TLR) ? I think I (or anyone) could do that 2nd option, but the first one would be even more tantalizing....
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I saw a mirror in one of the mags a while ago; attaches at the LCD, and can be flipped to one side, or downwards...I didn't think much of it at the time.
 
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Diane B

New member
Robert Campbell said:
I saw a mirror in one of the mags a while ago; attaches at the LCD, and can be flipped to one side, or downwards...I didn't think much of it at the time.
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Thinking you may be talking of a Flipbac. I bought one for my G9 thinking it might help use the LCD more efficiently. I used it for one trip--sort of (the image is upside down which one can get used to obviously LOL), but it will only work at 45 degrees and that often just isn't sufficient. I took it off. YMMV of course, but it didn't work for me--actually even got in the way at times.

Diane
 
scho

scho

Well-known member
Godfrey said:
Nonsense. The LCD is what I use *whenever* I'm working on a tripod nowadays, whether indoors or outdoors. Ever heard of a dark cloth? ];-) And I use the LCD when framing for a lot of work even when I do have an EVF or OVF nowdays. This is one of the plusses of the digital camera era.

I will buy just two OVFs: the one for the 17mm and one for my 40mm lenses (I already have that one, actually). Don't need any more.

I absolutely despise the crappy built-in OVF of the G10. It's utterly useless IMO ... I can't see a thing with it. Waste of money to put it on the camera. I'd rather have only the LCD and learn how to shade it from the sun.
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I love shooting with the G1 on a tripod, using the articulating LCD at approximately waist level. At my age, I don't think my back and neck would tolerate using the EP-1 in a similar fashion.
 
Brian Mosley

Brian Mosley

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scho said:
I love shooting with the G1 on a tripod, using the articulating LCD at approximately waist level. At my age, I don't think my back and neck would tolerate using the EP-1 in a similar fashion.
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I agree - you can't beat an articulating screen for tripod work. Luckily the IS and in-built electronic level make a tripod slightly less necessary... and in the very rare occasions I need a tripod, I'll use another camera :)

Kind Regards

Brian
 
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woodmancy

Subscriber Member
Godfrey said:
Nonsense. The LCD is what I use *whenever* I'm working on a tripod nowadays, whether indoors or outdoors. Ever heard of a dark cloth? ];-) And I use the LCD when framing for a lot of work even when I do have an EVF or OVF nowdays. This is one of the plusses of the digital camera era.
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I agree - there are two schools of thought here. Use a tripod or hold it in your hand. I wish I could use a tripod, but I'm afraid I'm too lazy.

If I work off a tripod and cover myself with my raincoat, I could use the LCD. Don't have time for that :)

But, each to his own - I'm trying to push myself in that direction, I have two tripods and a monopod, but I haven't used them. Give me time :rolleyes:

I was hoping the digital camera era would not mean that I had to carry 20lb of gear and a raincoat.

Keith
 
jonoslack

jonoslack

Active member
woodmancy said:
I agree - there are two schools of thought here. Use a tripod or hold it in your hand. I wish I could use a tripod, but I'm afraid I'm too lazy.

If I work off a tripod and cover myself with my raincoat, I could use the LCD. Don't have time for that :)

But, each to his own - I'm trying to push myself in that direction, I have two tripods and a monopod, but I haven't used them. Give me time :rolleyes:

I was hoping the digital camera era would not mean that I had to carry 20lb of gear and a raincoat.

Keith
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Hi Keith
I also have two tripods and a monopod . . . but they instantly kill every photographic instinct I have (few though they may be). I'm not working towards using them, I'm refining techniques for NOT using them.

The idea of buying an EP1 because it's small . . . . and then sticking it on a tripod . . . . seems very strange to me. If I really was willing to use a tripod, I'd use it on an MF body, or at least the A900.

I sometimes have photos ruined by camera shake, but I've never taken a photo on a tripod which was worth a damn (me of course).
 
Jorgen Udvang

Jorgen Udvang

Subscriber Member
Although I hate the thought of not having a viewfinder, this starts to look tempting anyway.

Jono, will it AF with my 11-22?
 
Godfrey

Godfrey

Well-known member
jonoslack said:
I also have two tripods and a monopod . . . but they instantly kill every photographic instinct I have (few though they may be).
... I've never taken a photo on a tripod which was worth a damn (me of course).
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LOL ... Well, you guys should know by now that I work with cameras using a tripod quite a lot. Not all the time, of course, but always when I get serious on subject matter that needs the most out of what the camera can produce. Doesn't matter matter what camera, whether large or small. "My sharpest lens is a sturdy tripod." :)

Of course, I hand-hold a camera quite a lot too.
 
jonoslack

jonoslack

Active member
Godfrey said:
LOL ... Well, you guys should know by now that I work with cameras using a tripod quite a lot. Not all the time, of course, but always when I get serious on subject matter that needs the most out of what the camera can produce. Doesn't matter matter what camera, whether large or small. "My sharpest lens is a sturdy tripod." :)

Of course, I hand-hold a camera quite a lot too.
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Each to his own Godfrey . . . :salute:
 
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woodmancy

Subscriber Member
jonoslack said:
Hi Keith
I also have two tripods and a monopod . . . but they instantly kill every photographic instinct I have (few though they may be). I'm not working towards using them, I'm refining techniques for NOT using them.

The idea of buying an EP1 because it's small . . . . and then sticking it on a tripod . . . . seems very strange to me. If I really was willing to use a tripod, I'd use it on an MF body, or at least the A900.

I sometimes have photos ruined by camera shake, but I've never taken a photo on a tripod which was worth a damn (me of course).
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This is an interesting thread. Cartier-Bresson would not have used a tripod (we all agree on that). But he looked at life through his viewfinder which showed him maybe 90% of life. But he got it.

I don't think you can do that with an LCD. So, put on the OVF, and I have no problem with that. But you have to put on a new OVF for each one of your primes, and I don't know what you do with zooms. At least, Leica could accommodate a few lens changes without adding an OVF.

We have to go with the chinzy Canon approach or an add-on EVF like the Ricoh.

Keith
 
Jorgen Udvang

Jorgen Udvang

Subscriber Member
woodmancy said:
I don't think you can do that with an LCD.

Keith
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You can do anything with anything, it's mostly a question of learning to use the tool the way required for the purpose. While I would undoubtedly prefer a good viewfinder to a more or less good LCD, in the long run, I would probably take the same photos with both tools.

I do worry about proper focus at wide apertures though, particularly when working fast. That "decisive moment" may only be available for a fraction of a second.
 
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