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Having fun with the E-P1

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nei1

Guest
:Dand what beautiful nails the young man,second from last,has,...........nice image:wtf:.
 

kweide

New member
WOW Jono. I took some of your wedding pics and chased them thru my PP. Boy... i now go for E-P1. Its great stuff and you are right. That is a fun-machine. But tell me more about the glass you used. I saw thru EXIF it must have been legacy glasses and DOF told me the same.

Nei1, dont be jealous, but she must be beautiful. He enjoyed ....
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The Online Photographer had a link for a Youtubes video about the EP-1 which gave me a good idea of size. Larger than I bet most are thinking that haven't seen or held it.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgbN1iiuEUM
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Ver-ry interesting....

My immediate reaction is, for all practical purposes, this is about the same bulk as my beloved Digilux 2 (and since I got the G1 with 14-45, I´ve considered that one to be similar to the Digilux 2; I use the same bags for either).

I´ve somehow been led to believe that the EP-1 was just slightly larger than my D-Lux 4; it certainly isn´t. I´m afraid this put some cold water on my desire for the EP-1: it really doesn´t trump my present trio of cameras, rather the other way around.

Waiting for that mythical "second" Oly mFT later this year; meanwhile, I´ll pass on this one, :cool:
 

jonoslack

Active member
Ver-ry interesting....

My immediate reaction is, for all practical purposes, this is about the same bulk as my beloved Digilux 2 (and since I got the G1 with 14-45, I´ve considered that one to be similar to the Digilux 2; I use the same bags for either).
HI Per
it certainly feels a lot smaller than the G1 - especially if you stick a leica 35 summarit on the front.

I wouldn't get too excited about the next one, I suspect there will be 2

1. which is pretty much like the G1 - probably slightly cheaper than this
2. like this but weathersealed and with some kind of EVF, slightly larger and considerably more expensive.

I doubt there will be anything much smaller.
 

jonoslack

Active member
WOW Jono. I took some of your wedding pics and chased them thru my PP. Boy... i now go for E-P1. Its great stuff and you are right. That is a fun-machine. But tell me more about the glass you used. I saw thru EXIF it must have been legacy glasses and DOF told me the same.

Nei1, dont be jealous, but she must be beautiful. He enjoyed ....
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Hi Klaus
they look pretty good don't they - especially considering I hadn't a clue what I was doing . . . and I'd been drinking for about 5 hours before I started taking those low light shots :ROTFL:

I was using the Zeiss 50 f1.5 sonnar for most of them - usually at f1.5 or f2. There are one or two taken with the Leica 75 f2 summicron - again, mostly wide open.
 

helenhill

Senior Member
I was using the Zeiss 50 f1.5 sonnar for most of them - usually at f1.5 or f2. There are one or two taken with the Leica 75 f2 summicron - again, mostly wide open.
They Look Quite Refined & Lovely...:clap:
Thanx for Posting because I really had no Interest in this Cam
BUT Now YOU have turned my head around...Coool
Best- H
 

kai.e.g.

Member
Someone pointed out elsewhere that you can tether a screen to the E-P1 via its HDMI port, which simply outputs what you'd normally see on the rear LCD. This leads me to wonder: 1) could a 3rd party shoe-mounted EVF be engineered with a cable connection down to the HDMI port (kind of like cold-shoe flashes of old)... or 2) more easily, could one similarly rig up a little shoe-mounted 3.5" screen which would be viewed straight down (ie, like a Hasselblad or TLR) ? I think I (or anyone) could do that 2nd option, but the first one would be even more tantalizing....
 
HI Per
it certainly feels a lot smaller than the G1 - especially if you stick a leica 35 summarit on the front.
Well, I just referred to my subjective impression from the videos. You´ve handled both cameras yourself, so I take your word for it...:salute:

I wouldn't get too excited about the next one, I suspect there will be 2

1. which is pretty much like the G1 - probably slightly cheaper than this
2. like this but weathersealed and with some kind of EVF, slightly larger and considerably more expensive.

I doubt there will be anything much smaller.
Maybe I wasn´t clear about what I expected; I thought this was something close to the DL4 (or maybe the DP2) in bulk, but with a 4/3 sensor. If it´s more similar to the G1, I don´t feel it´s worthwhile for me. BUT: anything in mFT that retains the EVF and swivelling screen of the G1, AND adds weather sealing and in-body IS for my old Leica glass will be very worthwhile, even if it´s a bit bigger than the G1 (and not the price of a M8..:eek:).
 

Godfrey

Well-known member
In all of those 35mm cameras you mention, you can look through a viewfinder to see your image.
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Why didn't they put in a chinzy optical OVF as in the Canon G10?
Nonsense. The LCD is what I use *whenever* I'm working on a tripod nowadays, whether indoors or outdoors. Ever heard of a dark cloth? ];-) And I use the LCD when framing for a lot of work even when I do have an EVF or OVF nowdays. This is one of the plusses of the digital camera era.

I will buy just two OVFs: the one for the 17mm and one for my 40mm lenses (I already have that one, actually). Don't need any more.

I absolutely despise the crappy built-in OVF of the G10. It's utterly useless IMO ... I can't see a thing with it. Waste of money to put it on the camera. I'd rather have only the LCD and learn how to shade it from the sun.
 

Godfrey

Well-known member
... The only photographic issue I really have with the G1 now is DR (and likely all 4/3rds sensors). ...
Not that I believe the G1 sensor is on par with the DR of a sensor with 3.5x the area ... but I found on testing the G1 for DR that given the fact that the metering is not protective of highlights AND the set ISO is about .3-.5 EV pessimistic. This means its easy to overexpose highlights. Dial in a -.3 to -.5 EV Exposure compensation setting, and its DR is right in line with L1, E-1 and K10D bodies at around 9.5 stops (K10D is best at 10.5 stops and the L1/E-1 turn 10 stops).

Works well enough for me. :)
 

Godfrey

Well-known member
Good stuff, Jono!

Nice to hear that the AF works ... I don't need "fast" ... and the image quality looks very good.

my piggy bank looks very scared.
 

Quentin_Bargate

Well-known member
I should have guessed....:thumbup:

I'll see if I can get one with the pancake lens in a week or two. Its as a genuine dslr alternative carry anywhere that this camera interests me.
 

kai.e.g.

Member
There are a couple of very nervous-looking EF lenses in my cupboard which have not been used for some time, and whose combined resale value just happens to equate to the price of a 2-lens EP-1 kit....
 

Diane B

New member
HI Per
it certainly feels a lot smaller than the G1 - especially if you stick a leica 35 summarit on the front.

I wouldn't get too excited about the next one, I suspect there will be 2

1. which is pretty much like the G1 - probably slightly cheaper than this
2. like this but weathersealed and with some kind of EVF, slightly larger and considerably more expensive.

I doubt there will be anything much smaller.
#2 would suit me but for the 'considerably more expensive'. Guess I'll have to wait and see or choose this one. I just like the slim design of this one and with an added smallish lens (17 or 20 or something like my Konica 40 f/1.7), it should be a good one for in a small handbag--men's or women's--rather than a camera bag. I often have my camera out carrying it and this looks like it would be so nice for that--planning to buy the Y strap right now.

Diane
 
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