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    Quote Originally Posted by sizifo View Post
    BTW, can anybody recommend a developer for Tri-X? I used DD-X for the above, which was just a random choice, but have run out now and would like to try something more interesting.
    Helen and Eric are getting gorgeous results with Rodinal, so much so, I'm going to be giving it a go myself, any day now.

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    Sizifo -- Tri-X works well in just about anything. It really depends on the look you are going for.
    Xtol is a fantastic standard developer -- it is very sharp, fine grained, maintains true film speed, and has nice tonality. It is also good for pushing. It is Kodak's most advanced developer, and their best from a technical standpoint. DD-X is somewhat similar, but uses a more standard developing agent (it is a hydroquinone developer, while Xtol is sodium ascorbate).
    If you are looking for the old standard, try it in D-76 1+1 (or ID11 1+1). That is the classic photojournalist formulation, and it is one of the most commonly used film/developer combos. It is a great general combo -- good sharpness and tonality.

    On the other end of the spectrum, Rodinal is another special case. Rodinal is very sharp, gives a strong salt and pepper grain, and wonderful, irreproducible tonality. Rodinal just has a look -- sharp, textured and great tones.

    If you want to keep the grain down, you can try Perceptol, for which you will have to sacrifice some film speed and sharpness, but you will be rewarded with very fine grain.

    One final more specialty option would be Diafine. Diafine is a two bath developer that gives fantastic speed (Tri-x is native at 1250 in it), good grain, and a compensating effect (it compresses the highlights and shadows so it is good for contrasty light).
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    Re: More and more film fun with something other than a Leica M

    Let me see if I can find some samples:
    This is Tri-x in Rodinal 1+50 or 1+100...semi-stand I think.


    This is in Xtol I think...


    I think this is also Xtol...


    Not a great photo, but I remember that this is diafine...
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    Wow. Thanks for the extensive answers. These will get printed for future answers. I'm looking forward to experimenting.

    Presumably that last one is not Tri-X but some lower speed film? Otherwise it looks really clean for iso1250. Or did you "pull" process (hopefully that's the right term).

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    No, it is Tri-x at 1250 -- diafine has very low grain for the speed. The only issue is that it locks in the speed at 1250 -- you cannot push or pull. The process runs to completion. It also does not give the same nice tonality that you can get from normal developers...the results tend to be pretty gray.
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    Re: More and more film fun with something other than a Leica M

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Richardson View Post
    Let me see if I can find some samples:
    This is Tri-x in Rodinal 1+50 or 1+100...semi-stand I think.
    Stuart, that's one of my all-time favorite photos.

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    Some more from the Tahoe trip





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    Very nice Dragos! I like the Flying A's the best...

    Maggie -- Thank you so much! I am sorry I did not see this earlier. That is very nice of you to say. It is one of my favorite photos I have taken, but I fear I post it too often as I tend to use it for examples like the lens used, tri-x in rodinal, etc etc.
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    Gorgeous!!

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    Recent Scenes from Indonesia

















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    My good ole Nikon Fe with 35mm lens and Kodak Tri-x...

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    Quote Originally Posted by emmawest72 View Post
    My good ole Nikon Fe with 35mm lens and Kodak Tri-x...
    Great shot William.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Richardson View Post
    Let me see if I can find some samples:

    I think this is also Xtol...
    Stuart: These are great! I forgot how much the processing could affect the negative.

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    monza: Excellent photos. I love the DOF, color and composition in this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by photoSmart42 View Post
    Some more from the Tahoe trip
    photosmart42: The "film" quality in these really shines. The color's rich but not digital. Nice work.

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    Mikoo: Beautiful series. I really like this last one!

    Quote Originally Posted by emmawest72 View Post
    My good ole Nikon Fe with 35mm lens and Kodak Tri-x...
    William: Stunning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sizifo View Post
    Two from London
    Hyde Park:

    Both Hasselblad 80mm Planar, Tri-X
    sizifo: Great B&W photos. I like the composition and gradations in this one.
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    m_driscoll: Thank you very much.











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    I busted out some old negs from my Nikon F3 with the 28/2.8 Nikkor lens.

    Tri-X in D-76, on location for my short film, "Waitressing For Godot."

    Joesph Goodrich And Mario Lang, February, 1987


    Katrina Harrison, February, 1987


    Terri And John, February, 1987


    And back at home...
    IR Mirror, My Old House, 1986

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    Bonnie, Fenceline, 1987

    Best collie EVER.

    Ah, my youth as an art school film and photography student!

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    Here's a few more from my Nikon F3:

    Cars, Minneapolis, 1984


    Nicollet Mall, Minneapolis, 1984

    Both are Ektachromes.

    Joe And John, February, 1987


    Joe, Terri And John, February, 1987

    Tri-X again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikoo View Post
    m_driscoll: Thank you very much.





    mikoo: These are great! I especially like these last two. The gradation of tone in the first increases the sense of perspective. The guy running for the train (or just across the bridge) really tells a story. The little boy with the umbrella is a beautiful capture and composition. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, Matt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    I busted out some old negs from my Nikon F3 with the 28/2.8 Nikkor lens.

    Tri-X in D-76, on location for my short film, "Waitressing For Godot."

    Joesph Goodrich And Mario Lang, February, 1987


    And back at home...
    IR Mirror, My Old House, 1986

    Kodak IR B&W film

    Ah, my youth as an art school film and photography student!
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    Here's a few more from my Nikon F3:

    Cars, Minneapolis, 1984


    Joe And John, February, 1987


    Joe, Terri And John, February, 1987

    Tri-X again.
    Maggie: A nice walk down memory lane. I'm partial to these. Nice composition and PP. Did you just rescan them. My first Nikon was a Nikkormat in 1966. "Waitressing For Godot"!

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    Those are really nice Maggie! I really like the shot of the cars from above.
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    Thanks, guys!

    Matt, I scanned those negatives and slides for the first time last night! I'm not sure I ever printed the shots from the movie shoot, even. I know the slides were never printed.

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    Very nice photos and I'm impressed by the scanning Maggie.

    Here are two from Berlin last weekend. Tri-X and Tmax developer. I also have some HP5 with Tmax dev that I'll try and post later - this combination looks really good to me.








    I like both of these, but am very happy with the second. However, this may just be related to the fact I took ages to get the composition and exposure exactly how I wanted (or pretty close).

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    Thank you, sizifo! You really did nail the exposure and composition on those two shots: they're fantastic!!

    Here are three photos from a 1979 marching band trip my high school band made to North Platte, Nebraska. I used my Canonet QL17 G-III, Illford HP5 (developed in D-76, IIRC) and was fourteen when I took these shots!

    Mark Villwok, North Platte, NE, 1979


    Greg Schneekloth, Mark Villwok and Carl Persson, North Platte, NE, 1979


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    Great shots everyone! Maggie....your photos from Minneapolis, especially the one of Nicollet Mall really took me back in time. For a couple of years I walked, bicycled or took the bus down Nicollet Mall nearly every day, either to work (in the IDS building...the tall one in your photo) or over to the U of Minn campus. That is such a perfect photo of the Mall. Here's one of mine on Nicollet Mall....taken with a Cambo 4x5 near Orchestra Hall (about a block away from where you were standing...what a coincidence). A little too much "perspective control" at the top of the IDS tower in my image, unfortunately.

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    Thanks, Gary! I loved living in the Twin Cities. Such a great place, even with the crazy weather.

    Looks like they were still working on the City Center hotel (forget the name, something starting with "A" tho') when you made your photo! Gotta love that mid-day Minnesota Winter sunlight, eh?

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    Thanks, Gary! I loved living in the Twin Cities. Such a great place, even with the crazy weather.
    Me too.....I love going back there for family visits, giving me an excuse to spend time in the city. Still one of my favorite places.

    Loved your photos above from the 1979 marching band trip! You showed alot of talent at an early age.

    The ones of Joe and John were also excellent. Looks like a walk around Loring Park in Minneapolis (or someplace very similar), if I'm not mistaken.

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    Loved your photos above from the 1979 marching band trip! You showed alot of talent at an early age.

    The ones of Joe and John were also excellent. Looks like a walk around Loring Park in Minneapolis (or someplace very similar), if I'm not mistaken.

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    Thanks! That was a fun trip. I was already working as a sports photographer for the local weekly, the Oakland Independent, along with shooting for the school annual and my own obsession. Dad had built a darkroom in our basement, so I was able to get an early start on things.

    The shots with Joe and company were shot on the Carleton College campus in Northfield, Minnesota on a cold, but thankfully not windy day. Northfield is a great little town, with two top-notch Liberal Arts colleges, Carleton and St. Olaf. My friend Katrina (seen in the photos, too) is the daughter of professors from each of those schools.

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    Another in the series of urban or semi urban landscapes around LA. This is a seismic sensor in the Santa Monica Mountains. Mamiya 7. 65mm lens. T-Max 100 I think.

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    Another in the series of urban or semi urban landscapes around LA. This is a seismic sensor in the Santa Monica Mountains. Mamiya 7. 65mm lens. T-Max 100 I think.
    Tack sharp, and wonderful tones. Looks like something from an Orson Welles movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfigen View Post
    Another in the series of urban or semi urban landscapes around LA. This is a seismic sensor in the Santa Monica Mountains. Mamiya 7. 65mm lens. T-Max 100 I think.

    WOW! Composition, tones, microcontrast, sharp in all the right places, soft where it should be yowza!

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    Another in the series of urban or semi urban landscapes around LA. This is a seismic sensor in the Santa Monica Mountains. Mamiya 7. 65mm lens. T-Max 100 I think.
    Don't you love the sharpness and tones from the Mamiya 7/65mm combination? All the things Maggie said, too!

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    The Mamiya 7 with any lens is crazy. I am really holding myself back -- there is a very nicely priced Mamiya 6 here, no lens though unfortunately. But it is very tempting...a 6x6 Mamiya 7 with a collapsible lens mount...tempting...
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    It's a wonderful photo. Most of the Mamiya stuff on this thread looks stunning.

    I've been having a lot of fun pushing HP5 with Tmax to iso1600. Here are some contrasty scenes made ridiculously contrasty with the pushing. It's the hasselblad. Obviously all are cropped in one way or another.


    No head



    A jogger. The tonality here is beautiful I think.



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    Quote Originally Posted by pfigen View Post
    Another in the series of urban or semi urban landscapes around LA. This is a seismic sensor in the Santa Monica Mountains. Mamiya 7. 65mm lens. T-Max 100 I think.
    Wow!

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    I forgot to mention two things -- 1. Yes, it is a great photo! It really does look like an alien ship. 2. It's odd, because we are a huge earthquake area here too, and I have seen some of these around. Ours look different though. Still like an alien craft, but slightly different. I don't have a picture of one, but there is one right near this area, on the road to a place called Djúpavatn:


    It's not far from where this burnt out car was...

    And this is digital, but it is right to the right of my bike! Out of frame of course. I will take a picture next time I am out there...it's only a little ways out of town...30 minutes or so.
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    These are a few I took with Hassy 500cm 80mm. on HP4. Enjoy






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    The seismic sensor image is one I've always liked, but thought it was too weird for the general population. Sometimes I shoot these things for my own personal amusement. Glad y'all liked it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfigen View Post
    The seismic sensor image is one I've always liked, but thought it was too weird for the general population. Sometimes I shoot these things for my own personal amusement. Glad y'all liked it.
    We did. Amuse us some more.

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    Here's some E-6 - either Fuji or Ektachrome - I don't recall, shot off the coast of Santa Barbara for an anti offshore oil drilling poster I did for the Sierra Club and the National Oceans Conference in Monterey back when Clinton was still in office. A SB lawyer took me out in a 35 ft motor boat and I acted as my own gyro. Everything was fine until I got back to dry land, where I was nauseous for the next three days. Drum scanned on the Howtek. Shot with an old F4 and a Nikon 80-200 2.8.

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    Another blast from the past, scanned via the Nikon and from my F3/28f2.8 and the much-hated-by-me original T-MAX 400:

    Susan And Friend, Monticello, MN, Early 1990's


    I love the photo, but man, those T-MAX tones and grain structure just bug me. I played with this in PP more than most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    Another blast from the past, scanned via the Nikon and from my F3/28f2.8 and the much-hated-by-me original T-MAX 400:

    Susan And Friend, Monticello, MN, Early 1990's

    I love the photo, but man, those T-MAX tones and grain structure just bug me. I played with this in PP more than most.
    Great shot Maggie.

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    Great shot Maggie.
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    Maggie - I agree about the old T-Max400. I never liked it all all. It was just weird, no umph like Tri-X or even Plus-X, but that being said, I like your image nevertheless. I do wonder how it would look if there was just a hint of detail in the blown out highlight in the upper left.

    Here's a Tri-X (still one my favorite films in any format, that and Ektapan 4X5) Holga image from Bodie that I kinda like

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    Holga + Tri-X = super gorgeous! (in your hands, for sure!)

    I dodged the blown highlights as much as I dared. It's just chalk and soot under there. Stupid T-MAX.

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    Re: More and more film fun with something other than a Leica M

    Maggie - I've been able to pull incredible highlight detail from the densest of negs, but on the Howtek drum scanner. Maybe you've run into a limitation of the Nikon there. I apparently don't have the image here on this laptop I was thinking about - a ten second handheld DianaF image that I almost through out because it was so dense, so this'll have to do instead... T-Max100, #29 Filter RZ67 50mm

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfigen View Post

    Here's a Tri-X (still one my favorite films in any format, that and Ektapan 4X5) Holga image from Bodie that I kinda like
    In the right hands, those crappy plastic cameras are just amazing.

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    Re: More and more film fun with something other than a Leica M

    Anthony, The black and white of the last set is beautiful.
    pfigen, The holga photo is gorgeous. I feel like you could reach out and grab that headlight. Once again "it isn't the gear...."
    Maggie, You must have a treasure of old film. I am really enjoying your blast from the past.

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    "Once again "it isn't the gear...." This is so true, and to think I got hassled on Sunday at Universal City Walk (only there because my girlfriend was playing music) for having what the nineteen year old security guard deemed a "professional" camera. If he only knew.

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