Robert Campbell
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But, do they listen to what is said? Listen to the requests/demands/wishes for whatever? Like, who needs the print button on a 5D?BTW they monitor all these forums very closely..
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But, do they listen to what is said? Listen to the requests/demands/wishes for whatever? Like, who needs the print button on a 5D?BTW they monitor all these forums very closely..
Sorry, but I must be missing your point, Ben. If you are not a Canon owner, and do not like what they offer, why bother with them? If you are a Canon user, there is a lot of possibly good news on the way, so what is the issue. The 50D is not such a bad camera or deal if you really look at what you are getting. Lots of folks seem to think this the case. The 5D has been a very venerable offering for quite a long time, and any upgrade will most likely be substantial, and probably offer quite a bit of interesting things.
No point in bashing Canon in favor of Nikon on this forum, as folks are not of that nature here. We all have our preferences. Some of us are gear agnostic. Some of us have a lot invested in some systems and lines of gear, so there may be some cheering in one camp a bit more/less than another. If folks want to constantly be switching out gear for what they think is the latest and greatest, that is their choice. Personally, I like seeing the competition among manufacturers, as it does bring about better offerings for all of us, most of the time. In the end, if the gear does not meet your needs, do not bother buying it. Nice to have choices.
LJ
Well, hard to tell too much from the teaser, but unless they have removed the top dial from the 5D, the camera in the teaser profiles more like a 1-series body. That could be the "evolution"....bringing the 5D more toward the 1-series, and everybody is speculating on what that means.
Ben,My comment was based on the above mention of canon execs laughing at our discussions, if they are still as arrogant as we can assume they are then I will have no problem changing over for a better camera as I think will many people.
Totally understand about the needs for weather sealing. I wind up in very harsh conditions a lot, and that is why I did not even think about anything other than my 1-series bodies and "L" lenses for my shooting needs. The new 50D from Canon is starting to get some more seals, but the 5D just missed that mark, and in speed for me to ever consider it. Hoping whatever comes along next has some of these rather important things in place and that it is more of "pro level" camera that can take the harder use some of us may give the gear, such as shooting in the rain and dust a lot.I've been making a list of reasons not to stay with my present 5D's. What is comes down to is two things, Pro AF and weather sealing. These are the two only reasons that I would upgrade as a necessity. Shot two weddings in the rain this week and during one the lens wasn't communicating properly, I think a tiny bit of moisture got in. I shoot a lot in the rain and eventhough it's not for long periods I'm fed up of risking that kind of investment. The other point is that I want my cameras to focus f4 lenses as fast as it presently does f2.8, i.e. AF as fast as the 1 series. If neither of these things happen then I'll either stick with what I have and use primes more or see if a few niggling but important things about nikon are enough to stop me switching.
I agree for sure on those two, but for me woudl add frame-rate and higher ISO noise. If I got all of that in a new 5D and it was still 11MP, I would be happy to stay with Canon...I've been making a list of reasons not to stay with my present 5D's. What is comes down to is two things, Pro AF and weather sealing.
Jack,I agree for sure on those two, but for me woudl add frame-rate and higher ISO noise. If I got all of that in a new 5D and it was still 11MP, I would be happy to stay with Canon...
The latest rumors seem pretty reliable and state 21MP, 4 FPS, new (presumably weaker) AA filter, and body otherwise similar to 50D (no heavy duty weather sealing and "non-pro" AF). Also said to offer 1 stop better high ISO performance than the 50D and no video.I agree for sure on those two, but for me woudl add frame-rate and higher ISO noise. If I got all of that in a new 5D and it was still 11MP, I would be happy to stay with Canon...
Assuming that the 5D replacement is 21MP and great at high ISO, there's one more thing Canon can do to make it a smash hit. Release a great 24-70/2.8 IS version for the same price or less than the non-stabilized Nikon version. I would buy the Nikon today, but I can't see paying $1700 for a non-stabilized, huge standard zoom.
Owning the 24-70 from Nikon and using it on a D3 I must say I of course would love VR on this lens!oh your kidding me right? you want VR and will actually use it? on this range? common please..
No - I agree.Owning the 24-70 from Nikon and using it on a D3 I must say I of course would love VR on this lens!
Are you kidding here????
I'm not all that famililar with Nikon lenses yet. However, on the Canon side, the IS versions of lenses have shown improved image quality over the non IS versions in most cases, most likely because the IS designs are newer designs. The only Canon lens I've heard of where the IS version is thought to be a little bit less sharp is the 300/4. Not the 70-200/2.8, 70-200/4 (IS much sharper), 18-55 (IS much sharper), 75-300 (old lens), 300/2.8, 400/2.8, 500/4, or 600/4. In each of those cases, the IS version is widely considered on par with or better than the non-IS version. Even flare performance, which might be expected to suffer with the greater number of elements, has not been demonstrably worse in any of those examples that I have seen.No - I agree.
Anders Uschold in BJP makes it pretty clear that putting IS into lenses DOES sacrifice quality.