Well there is a noticeable difference between the Kodak and the Dalsa sensors. One word Dalsa is "smoother"
I agree with Jack as well the pixel pitch and DR increase has a lot to do with it.
Not to say the Kodak is bad but just different and i call it crunchier.
Sorry for the low accuracy and low "smoothness" of my explanation above - I hope this makes some sense anyway
has anyone done a several shot pano or stitch with one of these babies? I'd like to know how the pano software can handle the file size
So got in to Yosemite for a few hours today with the IQ180. Valley was magic -- light was constantly changing, light dusting of snow, mixed Sun, clouds, light rain and snow, green grass, the dogwoods are blooming and the falls are flowing. Anyway, here is a quickly processed (on my laptop) cliche shot from Tunnel View just to give you an idea what it was like. 55LS, 1/80 @ f12, ISO 35, processed in C1:
And for some reason I just felt motivated to try it in B&W. Again, all on my laptop, and all done with C1's B&W tool:
I can't wait to do some light selective editing on this one and print it up
That's a dynamite B&W, Jack.
But please stop flaunting that IQ180. I haven't got mine yet! (Color me green.)
I would guess also P1 have similar improvements in their Dalsa sensors in 40 and 60MP backs. Comparing raw files from the 56 and 80MP Leaf's to my 28MP, colors appear incrementally improved in the 56MP but as if a bigger step is in the 56 to 80MP, albeit in part that might be due to the higher resolution etc per above. Thus I would gather that the 80MP backs are additional steps in improvements of both color and gradations. I much appreciate more info from you guys who use them.
Let us at same time bear in mind that Leaf backs already in earlier generations were considered more "film like" and color accurate than the P1 backs with Kodak sensors. Perhaps the use of Dalsa and acquiring of Leaf thus had something to do with this?
Bill and Don,
Thanks -- I liked the B&W too. I'm going to work on it more tomorrow when back at my main machine and print it up. I suspect it could maybe get a frame and a space on the wall
I'm not looking...I'm not looking...I'm not looking!
I looked and I'm hooked and now we are all broke. LOL
Very nice image Jack! Any further comments about shooting with it compared to the 65 in a "real life" situation?
Well I think I sticking to my P65+. Just received an email from my dealer and to upgrade to the IQ180 with a DF and SK80mm LS its going to cost me $31,000.
So much for the generous upgrade promotion as I estimated more in the $20,000 region. I could employ an assistant for a couple of years to hold my laptop and have an ever bigger screen then the IQ's for that sort of money.
Gareth, that sounds a bit too high a quote - your dealer should give you 65% off the price of the new back, and the DF +80mm should be around 4-5000 US or less if bought with a new back...
That does not sound correct. I would check around
So I worked the B&W above up a little more and printed it. In a word, WOW! It looks great to be sure, but it also has an elevated level of tonality and depth -- not sure how to describe it, but I'd call it a bit more "glow" than before.
I think I'll offer this one up in the gallery:
Jack, I told you it was a great shot already.
Now STOP FLAUNTING THAT BACK!
ps you did process it awfully well.....
Also Jack , Passing Storm is great. I can only imagine how it looks printed large.
That really is a superb image Jack. Lots of drama and can see you've used restraint and sensitivity to provide wonderful balance.
Amazing shot, Jack! Especially like how you kept the delicate light on the front trees. Ansel would be proud of that one ;-)
Here is my first IQ180 image with virtually no processing....I have much to learn in that arena.
First IQ180 image.
Gareth, my best response is that I do not for a second reqret the upgrade; there is an indescribeable beauty of the images which I rarely was able to get with the P65+. I barely know how to use it at the moment and need much work on getting the most from my processing. I am interested in a technical camera and I believe the IQ180 is going to open up new vistas there. Meanwhile, I have much room for growth with the DF645. I will try to post some more images as soon as I get more time.
My P65+ tradein: Dave at Capture Integration took possession of my very low mileage P65+ (about 5000 actuations) Wednesday of this week when I picked up the IQ180; so, those who might be interested should be in touch with Dave. Charles
Jack - Splendid image and workup! Demands a studious careful viewing.
Evening Shadows II: The only thing done to this image was to use the brighten slider and sharpen some in converting the image to this jpeg. The image was made using 645DF 80mm, f/11, 1/8s ISO 35. Charles
Jack, I want to chime in and agree that your Passing Storm image (both color & B & W) image is wonderful! Charles
One More IQ180 Image with minimum processing: 80mm, 1/15s, f/11, IS0 35, 645DF. Evening Shadows III. Only processing was: Shadow Slider 25 and some sharpening in converting to jpeg. Comments on what you would have done in processing would be much appreciated (I know several things I might do...but wanted to get these images posted with as little processing as possible). Charles
HDR via LCC in Capture One.
Not to take it into la-la land but to just bring up the light fall off across the subject matter in the bottom right and avoid those shadow areas becoming muddy/visually-undifferentiated.
Should take under a minute and very little effort to do. I'd suggest starting at -0.3 exposure (from where you are now) and a 15% HDR ("light fall off" slider at 15% after you do the LCC>Analyze). If it's your first time using this technique don't freak out when you push analyze and the image goes nuts - just uncheck "color cast" and turn the fall-off slider down to around 15%.
Edit: the main point of the 0.3 stop exposure drop would be to prevent those rocks in the center from being blown out. A local "burn" via a quick Local Adjustment Layer would also work for that purpose.
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Doug, thanks for your suggestions and I will play with them this evening....unfortunately I have work to do on the "honey do" list, and it is not a good plan for me to let the IQ180 interfere with that right now! Charles
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I do hope you are right, though!
Don, I think you will get much more out of My P65+. I hope you will be very happy with it. I note you show Atlanta as "one of your locations". I can barely handle one location! Some time when you are in Atlanta, and want to explore north Georgia with your camera...give me a call. I have a separate apartment at my rural north Georgia home and maybe we could get in some photography. I warn you though....I will be trying to extract as much as I can learn while you are here. That offer also applies to anyone else from GetDPI. Jack and Guy....are you listening? You need at least one workshop in the southeast. Charles
Fun seeing you all getting your new backs. Really happy for all of you and no I'm not jealous but anxious when they start shipping the IQ 160. I would have had a 180 when Jack got his. There was one with my name on it. I assure you though I will be the first to get my model or I'm on the warpath and that is not a pretty sight. Lol