iPhone is worse than me at spelling . That's bad
iPhone is worse than me at spelling . That's bad
Please note you quoted cs750's comment on image quality differences and NOT mine! I stand by my earlier comments -- the P65+ delivers outstanding image quality. The IQ180 does improve that a notch, a subtle, yet definitely visible and tangible notch. As I said earlier, the best way I can describe it is it's about the same incremental level of increase we got moving from the P45+ to the P65+.
Hope that clarifies!
Quality Issues: P65+ vs. IQ180 Please don't use anything I said to undermine the quality of P65 images. I agree with Jack's statement that the P65+ delivers outstanding quality images, and the IQ180 steps that up a notch. I have no doubt the more experienced and capable the user...the more quality images the user can obtain with either. Charles
I know it is tempting to judge picture detail from web versions, so here is a small section of Jack's Yosemite picture rescaled back to 80mp. I hope this gives an idea about how much detail is lost downscaling for the web!
Jack, I hope it's OK to do this to your beautiful picture. If not, let me know and I'll destroy all copies.
No, it's fine -- but just let's make sure everybody knows that up-rezzing that much does NOT work the same way downrezzing does -- fact of physics. Anyway, here is an actual crop from the image, this is the tip of first sister just above and left of Bridal Veil Falls:
Note in the downsized web version, you can still tell there are trees in that spot:
What you can see in the crop that you cannot see in the web version is the incredible tonal separation in the fogged trees on the ridge behind the sister, and that tonality does show up in even a small 8x10 print.
Amazing details. I cant wait for mine soon
Speaking of landscape, which lens is in must have list? I have 28mm, 80 LS, 110LS, and 150 so far. I was thinking to get the 300mm but it is 1.4KG ouch.
I am a small guy I cant carry too much stuff
why is that? what are you reason? no 28mm?
So is that mean only IQ180 can give you the best details out of all other digital backs in the world and can't be matched?
I'm pretty sure there won't be a difference. Perhaps in DR and color, but not in Res. I really like what I have in the IQ180, but honestly I don't see much difference when it comes to resolution between the 80 and 60Mp, for me the step from the P45 to the P65 was a lot more. Or to say it better more visible when it comes to resolution
I'm down to 35d new, 55ls, 80 LS, 110ls, 300 and may have just added 210. Landscape I use 110 more than the rest followed closely by the 55. But end of day I use every lens in my bag. Things may change slightly in use with FF now
Hope that helps,
It depends on the landscapes you shoot, i am a landscape photographer but unfortunately i don't live in a landscape country or region, so i have to travel for that, and if i can make an equivalent of MF to 35mm then my most landscapes shots were between 16mm and 30mm, so i think that means i need something wider than 55mm, i can say that 35-40 will be adequate, but i used 28mm more these days and i really love it even with distortion, i just something a bit longer than 28 and wider than 55 and i am set.
I used 120 macro on desert and i found out it does a great job except i need to focus manually, and my 80mm is my most used lens on my H body, so i can't finalize that what is fine with me should be too for you, i really don't know what is that 55mm on MFD equivalent to 35mm format.
Correct the 35 is about a 22/23 lens in 35. Nice focal length
Thanks guys u r not making it easier haha.
might have to get the 55LS now or the 300mm.
with 55LS focal length I can crop from my 28mm lens
but i dont have anything longer than 150mm now
think think think
The 300 is a nice lens but I will replace it with the new 240ls when it comes out. But I have been very successful with the 300 even wide open or 5.6 doing stage work. Focuses very fast and has nice contrast and look. They are not really that expensive either around 1800. But the 55 is like a must have no matter what you shoot. My goal is all the Schneider glass I can get. Like the look of them. I'm after look more than anything.
When present, I'd expect to see hot-pixels in all the shadow areas, and I don't always, so I'm a bit perplexed. I guess they could actually be small areas of snow, but they look like they are quite a bit brighter than the snow surrounding them. Jpeg junk? Is this sharpened for print (ie, too much for screen).
As impressive as it is, this 100% crop looks very "digital" to me...
No negativity here, just a bit of confusion. Care to clarify? Thanks!
Shelby, that is snow on the upward exposed edges of the jagged rock -- it was snowing while I captured this shot. There is no single pixel noise and moreover, there is no pixel in this image at over a 98L value, or about 250 in 8-bit pixel parlance.
Yes, it is scary and that is the point --- if you look at a map of the valley, that particular spire behind Bridalveil falls is about 2 *MILES* as the crow flies away from the tunnel view overlook, and this frame was taken with a moderate wideangle 55mm lens...
Forgot bout the 240LS 55LS path then for me
Btw the 300 is somewhat big so keep that in mind
And the 240LS is not likely to be small
I just got my Iq180, nice Screen
I played around for 4 mins and I cant find the IIQ S setting ( no option for it)
Does anyone else experience this?
my firmware 1.02.0
I need to come back and elaborate one more point that while insignificant for many may be important to a few: monochrome conversions.
Typically with digital, a monochrome conversion is somewhat lacking when compared to a traditional wet, large negative B&W. That has improved steadily, especially as resolutions have gone up in MF backs -- and got to a very acceptable level for myself and many other traditionalists with the P65+. However if you are a B&W shooter, I think I am safe saying the IQ180 takes monochrome print output to a new, higher level. While still not equivalent to a perfectly implemented 4x5 or 5x7 B&W, it is pushing in pretty close. Accutance is easily there in print and IMHO even better now; and a very similar "depth and roundness" is now present too. The traditional highlight "glow" while somewhat more perceptible as well, is probably the one factor not yet in the same league as wet, LF silver. All in all, I am impressed with how well the IQ180 mono conversions print off my Epson 7900 printer and coated art papers. Offered FWIW...
I won't have time to really work the IQ180 for a few weeks but your comments have me itching to get some quality shooting time in.
Well, looks like the P1/M mount backs are shipping. Anybody get a back yet that was NOT for a Phase camera?
I missed it for the Italy trip...I hope it makes it for my France trip....in september!
Sorry to hark back to your original images (we've been abroad for a few weeks) but I have a question on the 100% crops. In the crown moulding (blue) and in the brass of the clock there seems to be b lotchiness. I assume this is jpg artifacts due to the colors being close and thus creating a KIND of noise? It could also be due to the pulling at 35 ISO, but just wondered what the processed tiffs showed.
What's incredible is the DR of the sign in the cab of the middle picture. This is clearly an improvement over the P+ backs.
Anyway nice review...just the thing to make me ask WHERE"S MY IQ180 ("C" mount