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So if Fuji could equip their hybrid viewfinder with a electronic focusing patch like in a rangefinder camera, that would really be something, wouldn't it?
Fujifilm has released more details of its Finepix X100.
Seems like they didn't add a mount for interchangeable lenses.
What a pity
I find Ricoh GXR more interesting than Fuji X100. With an exception of a viewfinder its much more flexible fixed lens camera. that is if you don't think it as a system but am option to choose your lens.
I for one am glad they're sticking with a fixed lens mount. It affords more opportunity to optimize a particular lens and sensor, a particular camera, as a package. It's not a solution for everyone or every shooting situation.
I've already got my interchangeable lens cameras and my lens kit ... I don't want another 'system' to fuss with. I want a simple, high quality compact camera for when the system camera is overkill and too much to carry.
The Fuji X100 looks perfect for that.
But then at the size of the x100 I wonder if it should not have been possible to make it interchangable (if I look at m4/3 and Leica M).
I find the x1 size much more attractive for a compact. I do not know if I find the x100 compact. Still an attractive camera. I would probably rather go with a used M8 though and have the option to shoot also ultrawide or short 50mm FOV if I wanted, even though 35mm works fine for many things.
Story - Chapter 1: http://www.finepix-x100.com/story
I am slowly moving away from fixed focal length cameras with the exception of the M system, because M allows at least to change the lens, which the X100 (and also Leica X1) do not. This is for me the most severe restriction in making this camera as flexible as I need.
Unfortunately it also uses a 12MP sensor, which is no longer state of the art n APSC as K5, D7000 etc show.
Sad that these restrictions do not match the absolutely great idea of the new hybrid VF. I only can hope that Leica will pick up that idea for their future M10 - together with a 30MP sensor
Here Leica with all the old M glass was in a much better position (and still yes- the M9 costs multiple times of the x100)
So yes, in the end the x100 will be a compromise between price, size and function. For some it migt be just the solution (lets say somebody who wants something Leica M style but with more auto functions and who likes just 35mm and doesnt want to send the money for Leica M stuff).
Personally I found it more attractive it it either was smaller/lighter OR if it had exchangable lenses.
Far as I can see, it's a perfect size for my hands and I already have my system cameras. A nicely crafted, single-lens compact like this ... always presuming the responsiveness and image quality is up to snuff ... is the perfect adjunct to my SLR kit. When I need something other than what it offers, I'll just grab the SLR. I don't need every camera to be capable of doing everything.
But I'm repeating myself... :-) Time to do some photography and continue waiting to see an X100!
I doubt Fuji is worried about its survival if the X100 doesn't sell in large quantities. Their camera division is hardly a drop in the bucket with respect to the company finances.
OF COURSE Fuji has the competence and capability to make a top-of-the-line system. That doesn't mean such a product is financially viable as a business unit.
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Perhaps sensitivity had a higher priority than resolution in the choice of sensor. Perhaps the latest and greatest 16MP APSC sensors were not available for purchase or deemed too expensive. Perhaps an X101 is planned with a 16MP sensor, to milk the market in a year. Who knows. 12MP is what we're getting for now.
Fuji's sensors have always been top notch, I don't expect that to change.
I followed a link the the Fuji site and just read about the lens in the upcoming camera....I was not overly interested in a fixed lens camera but aspects of the Fuji are really starting to get quite interesting....
First up the sensor is custom made with micro lenses a la the M8/M9 allowing for the lens to sit close to the sensor.
The camera has a built in (user implemented) 3 stop ND filter....allowing for wide open shooting in a lot more situations.
That in combination with 9 blades for the aperture for hopefully nicer bokeh
For flash shooters it looks like a leaf shutter allowing for high synch speeds.
Short minimum focusing distance is also shorter than rangefinder lenses.
Interesting piece on today's (12/23/2010) Online Photographer. Evidently a web page about the X100 viewfinder was recently posted, possibly by accident according to Mike Johnston. Mike suggested checking it out before the page is taken down.
Viewfinder story here. It looks like Fuji is drawing upon their past experiences with the big "Texas Leica" Fuji rangefinder cameras. All good if true.
I looked at it last night when I found a link for it on DPReview. There is a "Chapter 1" section that is all about the lens which I linked to above....I was trying to figure out what Chapter 3 is going to be about.
I am hugely impressed with Fuji's marketing here and how they are really explaining a lot about the camera, their thought process and the interaction with design and what made it in the final specs.
I was initially not thrilled with the fixed prime lens but have done an about face on the camera. I hope it is as good as the stuff reads.
The viewfinder story is interesting. The more I look at this camera, the more I like it. And I liked it right off the bat. :-)
Why do people so easily assume the non-use of 16MP sensors mean that Fuji is using a previous generation sensor? Megapixels are not representative of sensors or image quality. In fact the smaller megapixel specified the higher the pixel density will be. And pixel density is an important factor in image quality.
This is why Nikon cameras have to much extent not played the megapixel race, and quite likely a contributing factor to why Olympus swore on the nothing beyond 12MP rule.
And even if Fuji is using a previous generation sensor, it is specified exactly to the lens. One thing I loved they did is talk about how the light hits the lens and they've modified to do that (as they say) perfectly. This is a problem very relevant in interchangeable systems and adaptable lenses but it is a largely unknown issue only mostly obscurely discussed, and insurmountable to test.
In any case what I'm saying is that as a gearhead, photography is about making smart compromises. In this they've sacrificed interchangeability(usability) for image quality. And at 35mm f/2 135 equiv? that's a smart compromise that works for me. Although I haven't looked at it's actual size yet.
In retrospect for size I realized that even thought the Leica X1 is smaller, I would still be tempted to add the accessory grip for it anyways, making it no less the same than the Fuji X100.
It seems I am a definite buyer.
The viewfinder article confirms once again that Fuji is using a no-compromise approach to the design of the X100. I agree with Terry - great marketing. It will be very interesting to see how this carries over to the actual product.
My favourite camera shop in Bangkok apparently has it already, or at least they have a photo of one taken in the shop. I'm going there tomorrow
Here's the link:
Mock-up, gone already
Bummer but that did seem quite early for a camera due out in late March.
A camera shop here in Hong Kong where I know the folks estimate a price of 11,000 HKD or over 1,400 USD. Camera gear in Hong Kong is usually around low price level in USA.
Any takers @ 1,500 USD???
Perhaps we should ask Jack delete this thread to avoid speculation and a bubble???
Fuji stated when it was announced a US price ~$1000.
If it performs to expectations, ~$1500 is not out of bounds.
Yes, I'd buy one.
The next installment has been posted.
Looks all very appealing!
I know I may sound pessimistic now, but I only can hope it is not so much over hype as it was while Olympus introduced the E3, which was highly praised but finally could not come close to my (and also others) expectations in different areas. Unfortunately the whole marketing campaign reminds me very much on that E3 launch - lot of hot air .....
Lets keep fingers crossed
What better way to keep the X-100 in our minds than by these periodic messages from the design team.
A very effective marketing tool. I hope that the final product is as well thought out, and as functional as these periodic messages.
They certainly keep me interested.
As an addendum to my prior post, I would like to see some discussions from Fuji of how more detailed technical information and operational details were arrived at.
Since the appearance of these articles seem to be as to how certain physical, and construction decisions were made early on in the design phase, it would be interesting to see discussions of how more technical decisions were made.
How fast was the AF in normal and low light operation supposed to be, and what ways of optimizing these design parameters were possible.
Similarly, the noise levels and speed of the sensor, rate of buffer clearing, and speed of burst mode etc. How were the final characteristics determined, and implemented???
Also, sharpness, and general handling qualities. How were these parameters optimized??? How fast is the camera for the next shot???? Speed of CPU, and even which CPU???
Since Fuji likes to provide such specific details, as to the material, and even stitching of the camera case, how about telling us about the internal discussions for the strength of the AA filter, or construction materials of, and predicted longevity of the shutter.
I realize that some of his will be available in reviews just prior to release, but it is now close enough to the predicted release date that Fuji should start to release some of this information now.
Just my opinion. YMMV.
I decided to test the form factor of the X100 for my use as an adjunct to my SLR system. I pulled out my Olympus Trip 35, unused for many years but still in perfect condition. Just about the same size and weight, slightly longer focal length equivalent (40mm f/2.8 rather than 35mm f/2), similar simplicity of controls.
I loaded a roll of Ilford XP2 Super and will be shooting with it this week ... but at first play, the beautiful, clear bright line finder, compact but not fiddly size, simple controls, etc etc are looking to be a very nice carry-anywhere camera.
Makes me even more eager to see the Fuji X100 in the flesh. What am I doing to myself? ;-)
Well, if price around 1500 usd seems Fuji only got one taker in one week.
At first their site seemed present smart to me, but now is looking over done. Comes down to it, what is actual image quality???
One serious contender could be the iPhone 5, cheaper, even if less image quality would be always in pocket anyways, and no extra charger.
Fuji should bear in mind in my opinion that they market to among folks serious in photography and very high end gear. Thus... Will X100 stack up??
But comparing it to an iPhone camera? That seems a little silly, IMO. Fuji's fixed lens rangefinder cameras were loved by pros and advanced photographers ... and they weren't cheap either. There are always people who are willing to pay for real quality.
Of course, no one can say how the camera performs until it ships and gets into the hands of users. I'll make my purchase decision when I evaluate one for real, in the flesh.
Hi there... Its been a while since my last post, yet, since I always found people at this formu extremely friendly and knowledgeable...
I still love my little Ricoh GRD-2 as it has the most intuitive controls of any camera I have used. Its tiny sensor is great for zone focusing, especially with the 21mm equivalent lens add-on, and does not seems to sacrifice any sharpness at all. Sadly it is hopelessly noisy beyond ISO 400. So whenever I plan to work with available-light or use depth-of-field to separate subject from background, I have to drag along an EOS 7D and fast primes.
Enter the FinePix X-100, promising and uber-corrected, fine-tuned by hand, fast 35 mm equivalent lens that just by itself would cost around 700$ (its closest quality comparison would be Canon 24mm 1.4 L mkii, 1500$ ), a camera with real physical controls that stay put, CMOS sensor with offset microlenses to correct vignetting, standard ISO 6400 sensitivity, dynamic range greater than the legendary Finepix S5, 5 fps, and a big bright optical hybrid viewfinder that lets one electronically review the shot without having to remove the eye from the eyepiece.
So I have a couple of questions, as I understand the X-100 hardware to be finalized:
Is the X-100 really using the Sony sensor from Nikons D700/A300 ?
Any idea on how to get Fuji to use DNG instead of forcing us to change workflows or compromise image quality ?
Any insight if the X-100 contrast-detection AF might be able to focus in candlelight as my 7D does ? (deal-breaker for me... I know i know I should just wait for real world tests...)
Thanks for your time, and sorry for my non native english.
Fuji on their website have said that they expect support from third party raw developers in addition to the version of silkypix that they supply. This upfront acknowledgement of the other raw programs leaves me hopeful that they will supply the needed files to Adobe and others fast enough to get quick support.