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    Fifth time unlucky . . . . Park cameras finally got me
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    It is about time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post

    It is about time.
    HI Cindy
    I guess my history didn't really make it likely I'd resist.
    I've told myself that I MUST put something on ebay before it arrives!

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    Oh Jono! It does look tempting. I may even sell my 3 week old GH2 to justify one ...

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    Excellent, have fun! Mine arrived a few days ago and I have not had time to post but I must say, so far, bottom line, for all its quirks: WHAT A FUN CAMERA!

    You can see around the framelines like an M. Great.
    You don't have to worry about what lenses to bring with you.
    You don't have to worry about a retracting lens bringing in dust.
    You don't have to worry about protecting it -- something about it makes you not care too much.
    And, it is smaller and more rugged than you imagine from the pictures.

    I have to say I like the look of the X1 files a little more even though the X100 seems to be sharper. And X100 manual focus is abysmal! But if you stick to AF, the fun factor of the X100 carries the day. Great backup/casual camera.

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    I find it to be a great non-backup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monza View Post
    I find it to be a great non-backup.
    No doubt! I'm sure it is that too. I just find something liberating about it, like there are no expectations or something. Hard to explain but I like it.

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    Jono -
    You were doomed from the start. Ditto what Cindy said.

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    I am surprised it took this long, LOL
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    Oh God, succumb to the inevitable? But will it be my GH2 I sacrifice or my K5? Hmn ...

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    Re: oops

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphie View Post
    Oh God, succumb to the inevitable? But will it be my GH2 I sacrifice or my K5? Hmn ...

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    Neither of those deserve to be sacrificial lambs. You must expand your family.

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    Just got mine yesterday. Make sure you get a extreme 45 mb card. Money was almost unusable with a class 6 that I had first. Major speed difference. Great camera so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Neither of those deserve to be sacrificial lambs. You must expand your family.
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    Yes, well, I really can't justify 3 1K cameras in 5 months!

    Curiously, each day I have 'decided' which one (of K5 and GH2) to sell ... and the following day it is the 'other one'. This morning I had firmly placed the GH2 back in its box (virtually) ... now I am not so sure.

    I think I need to make some prints to decide ... my 'G' empire is the largest as I now have G1, GH2, 14-45, 14-140, 20, Oly 4/3 9-18 + my Pentax 43, 28 and 135 and Tamron 90mm macro in PK mount.

    It's a no-brainer isn't it?

    Except that 43 on the K5 can be sumptuous and a better focal length than on the Gs.

    Anyway, I am polluting a Fuji thread. I do apologise. As soon as Jono tells me the X100 is rubbish I can rest easy ...

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    Jono-

    All I can say is .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Fifth time unlucky . . . . Park cameras finally got me
    should be here on tuesday
    You lucky dog!

    I am at the top of my dealers list but nothing yet. So looking forward to getting this beast. It is certainly one of the most innovative cameras of our time.

    I am sure that most of the issues will eventually be fixed in firmware but in the meantime enjoy the experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    HI Cindy
    I guess my history didn't really make it likely I'd resist.
    I've told myself that I MUST put something on ebay before it arrives!

    all the best
    Of course you must. I'm sure there's an old UV filter or a lens cap for some long gone camera that you can sell. To be on the safe side, sell two items, so that you can buy the all black 50mm version when it's launched. You know you'll need a pair, don't you
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    As the Borg would say, "Resistance is Futile"....my X100 arrives tomorrow, taking the place of the x1 in my set up. Now I debate whether the D-Lux 5 stays or goes....hmmm
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    The X100 is an awesome camera. The camera made me realize that I'm nuts. I find the menu very intuitive and easy to navigate.
    It's a really cool camera and very unobtrusive.
    Good luck all youse fine peeps....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Streetshooter View Post
    I find the menu very intuitive and easy to navigate.
    That really isn't the issue with the camera. The problem are the oddities, like setting an ISO without turing off auto makes it a min shutter speed. ISO not carrying over from mode to mode. Bracketing, burst etc stay selected shot to shot unless you review a shot and that mode cancels. All are simple to find in the menus but the behavior can be perplexing in use.

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    Well - Hi everyone - and thanks for all the comments
    Just for once I'm coming to a camera with some knowledge of the idiosyncracies!

    Ashwin - great to know that your will power collapsed at the same time as mine!

    Jorgen - would you like to buy some IR cut filters?

    Lee - don't sell the K5!

    Woody - surely it'll be there soon

    Joe - I'm sorry to be so transparent - I do sometimes have resistance though. . . . still no MF

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post

    Joe - I'm sorry to be so transparent - I do sometimes have resistance though. . . . still no MF
    Ha ha, but not a lot. Have fun and I hope this stays awhile but so glad you are running ahead of the herd for us so we know which way we need to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Jorgen - would you like to buy some IR cut filters?
    I'll consider a K5 for the price of a filter
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    Jono
    I must admit you have had remarkable resistance to the S2. I thought for sure that was a hit on the radar screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diane B View Post
    Ha ha, but not a lot. Have fun and I hope this stays awhile but so glad you are running ahead of the herd for us so we know which way we need to go.
    Hi There Diane - I'm not sure that I'll be able to help you which way to go - but I imagine it'll stay for a while at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    I'll consider a K5 for the price of a filter
    Yes indeed - nothing wrong with my K5, and as I have the silver one, it'll go nicely with the X100.

    Quote Originally Posted by ecsh View Post
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    I must admit you have had remarkable resistance to the S2. I thought for sure that was a hit on the radar screen.
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    Hi Joe
    I would like an S2 - but I always come back to the fact that I'm happiest taking photos with something small and simple.

    . . . . . . and also it is rather expensive!

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    Well, actually only expect your own truthful assessment of whatever camera you try. We all know it is colored by your bias of preferring handholding, small, good IQ and ergonomics. It seems, if you get past the oddities it seems to possess or are righted by a firmware upgrade, this might be a good companion for your Leicas and Pentax. Looking forward to your shooting with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Fifth time unlucky . . . . Park cameras finally got me
    should be here on tuesday
    Well done! I would also have fallen to the Park "charm" attack until they told me that they didn't have the accessories that I need, ie adaptor and hood! The Pro warranty that they offer is available from Fuji anyway so they are not giving much away!!

    I will wait for mine to come in a few weeks from Robert White, meanwhile I played with their demo........and although I don't need it, I sure as hell desire it!! In fact I can hardly wait which is probably why you dealt with Park!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    Well done! I would also have fallen to the Park "charm" attack until they told me that they didn't have the accessories that I need, ie adaptor and hood! The Pro warranty that they offer is available from Fuji anyway so they are not giving much away!!
    Well, I just bought the camera - don't need hoods or cases or wotnot. (Although I would have liked another battery).

    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    I will wait for mine to come in a few weeks from Robert White, meanwhile I played with their demo........and although I don't need it, I sure as hell desire it!! In fact I can hardly wait which is probably why you dealt with Park!!

    IMHO the best leica that Leica Camera AG never made!
    I've played with Robert White's demo too - and that's pretty much what he said.

    I don't go for it though - The X100 may be completely fab (hopefully mine arrives today), but for me the whole leica thing is about simplicity, and I don't think the X100 qualifies there at all.

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    Hi Jono

    You are probably right about the leica simplicity of controls but having seen quite a few X1 images, I think that the X100 is a very good match for it and might even best it for IQ. It is however much more versatile and sure the X100 has it's little quirks but then what camera doesn't! I did find it fairly intuitive with no need to peruse the manual (in the shop and outside!).

    Of course it is not an M9 or M8.2 come to that but neither does it need an expensive IR filter either! It is the nearest thing to an AF "rangefinder" to date though! It will make an excellent companion to my A900 and the DLux4 will go!! Hooray!:
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    Well ...? Did it turn up? Have you charged the battery yet? Do you still have daylight?

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    Well. mine has! I have put the bins out (rubbish collection tomorrow!) and watered the new tree and shrubs!

    Battery should nearly be charged now, so I will be able to try it when I have finished teasing Jono! I have fitted the leather strap and the Fuji leather case, which is not a bad design actually. I have taken a quick look at the manual but having played with a demo model in the shop I knew fairly well where everything is and does. So far, so good then but the proof of the pudding will be in the photographing tomorrow. I was warned that this camera takes a bit of getting used to but it soon becomes clear and rewards with superb results, so we shall see!
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    Re: oops

    Hah!
    Lee - it turned up at 5.45 at the office - no time for all this battery charging rubbish - ten minutes is what it got, and no time to faff with menus, just drive home and out for an hour before it got dark.

    Just for once I really meant the first shot to be a REAL shot, but unfortunately there was nasty camera shake.

    Here's the second shot!



    look at those corners

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    First Pictures

    Hi there
    Fortunately my battery came with a bit of juice in it, these are shot with the old firmware, all jpg (with mods in Aperture) - I really didn't make any menu changes, as I was frightened the battery might run out!

    No impressions, except that it takes pictures when you press the button, and that they seem to be quite good!

    The camera is pretty small, but it's much heavier (and notably larger) than the X1 - here's a snap of it with my K5:



    Here are some first samples



















    Now the battery is charged I'll start fiddling with firmware and the manual

    Hope you're having fun Dave!

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    Very nice Jono!

    Now I have a hard time waiting, till Thursday...
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    Re: oops

    Quote Originally Posted by OlliL View Post
    Very nice Jono!

    Now I have a hard time waiting, till Thursday...
    Hard Luck - today was torture - every time the door outside the office opened I thought it was citylink . . . in the end the arrived just after 5.30

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    I hope I'll find mine waiting for me, when I get home from work tomorrow...
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    Re: oops

    As always you beat me to it Jono. I waited for a full charge by which time it was dark, but as i need to go to Southampton today to pick up my lenshood/adaptor I will take the X100 to see what I can get then. Meanwhile I fitted the nice leather case and strap and set up the menu's to what I think I would prefer...but doubtless some of those will change!

    The quality of your test images look pretty good straight out of the box!

    One thing though, how do I check which firmware is installed? I have had a quick look for this and unable to find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    ...
    One thing though, how do I check which firmware is installed? I have had a quick look for this and unable to find it.
    Hold the DISP/BACK button while turning the camera on. Firmware will be displayed on the rear LCD monitor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dhsimmonds View Post
    As always you beat me to it Jono. I waited for a full charge by which time it was dark, but as i need to go to Southampton today to pick up my lenshood/adaptor I will take the X100 to see what I can get then. Meanwhile I fitted the nice leather case and strap and set up the menu's to what I think I would prefer...but doubtless some of those will change!

    The quality of your test images look pretty good straight out of the box!

    One thing though, how do I check which firmware is installed? I have had a quick look for this and unable to find it.
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    The three b/w photos belong to your genuine art of portraying your landscape as "mythical land". Especially the third one with the two trees as a couple outside the community of the other trees and under a dramatic sky full of chimeras develops magic potency. I am glad to see that inspite of all this toying with the new gear the sense of photography isn't gone astray.




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    Re: oops

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphie View Post
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    Which dealer did you get your kit from?

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    Hi Lee

    In the end I traded in my Leica DLux4 plus leather case and a few extras for the X100 plus leather case at London Camera Exchange in Guildford. LCE in Southampton put me on to them as his computer showed they had stock, but they wouldn't transfer it to Southampton, so I had to drive to Gulldford. I got the hood and adaptor ring from Southampton LCE though!

    Fortunately it already had the latest firmware 1.1 .
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    Quote Originally Posted by HansAlbert View Post
    The three b/w photos belong to your genuine art of portraying your landscape as "mythical land". Especially the third one with the two trees as a couple outside the community of the other trees and under a dramatic sky full of chimeras develops magic potency. I am glad to see that inspite of all this toying with the new gear the sense of photography isn't gone astray.
    HI There Hans
    I hope that you're well? Nice to hear from you again, and thanks for the kind words. Generally speaking I think that playing with cameras and taking pictures are completely different activities - but the first does sometimes get in the way of the second

    Thanks again
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    Woohoo


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    Quote Originally Posted by OlliL View Post
    Woohoo


    Limited Edition No. 0313
    Wow Oliver - very nice - very VERY nice (would have gone well with my limited edition K5!).

    Good Luck with it

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    Thanks a lot Jono.

    Actually I wasn't looking for the Limited, but would have had to wait 2 month for a new one. I bought this for slightly below retail and it was used for 2 days and had about 100 shots on it.

    I looked at the K5 with a limited, but that would have been over budget.
    And I'm a rangefinder guy, so the OVF suits me very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OlliL View Post
    Thanks a lot Jono.

    Actually I wasn't looking for the Limited, but would have had to wait 2 month for a new one. I bought this for slightly below retail and it was used for 2 days and had about 100 shots on it.

    I looked at the K5 with a limited, but that would have been over budget.
    And I'm a rangefinder guy, so the OVF suits me very well.
    Hi Oliver
    Not a K5 with a limited . . . but the limited edition silver K5

    Sounds like you got a splendid deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi Oliver
    Not a K5 with a limited . . . but the limited edition silver K5

    Sounds like you got a splendid deal.

    all the best
    I understood it in the first place, but I was looking for a standard K5 with limited lens.

    Sorry, I sometimes have problems with articulation, when I'm writing in English.

    Oh and btw, that silver K5 looks awesome.
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    I think you are all mad, especially those with dogs. My cat says ... well that would be revealing too much, would it not? But I know what she thinks about dogs, ha! They are
    ' funny', meow!

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