Last edited by Terry; 15th March 2012 at 08:54.
Looks promising, especially ProX1. I would like to see the quality of glass on that camera. As much as I like Leica M, if Fuji offers AF with similar quality, I might just convert. On the other hand, let's see what Leica comes up with... And if I can mount M glass on it with some focus assist modes, that just might do for me.
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P.S. Release is dated "January 10, 2012". Is that how Fuji now "leaks" their releases hoping for them to go viral? Good luck with that. X100 was interesting, but I could never find one while I was interested in it, and this year they have lots of competition, like Ricoh GXR-M and Sony Nex-7. So if they promise something, they better deliver. Fuji is not Leica, I will not wait for months for a product to become available. Not gonna happen. So don't promise what you can't deliver.
I'm in love already
Robert, If this holds any semblance of truth (I hope it does), put me on your pre-order list for one with a standard lens plus the extra 2 rumored ones.
This looks absolutely, completely great. I'm putting myself on the pusher's list tomorrow.
P.S. Release is dated "January 10, 2012". Is that how Fuji now "leaks" their releases hoping for them to go viral? Good luck with that. X100 was interesting, but I could never find one while I was interested in it, and this year they have lots of competition, like Ricoh GXR-M and Sony Nex-7. So if they promise something, they better deliver. Fuji is not Leica, I will not wait for months for a product to become available. Not gonna happen. So don't promise what you can't deliver.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't agree with you more! Here's hoping they do it right this time.
What is all this negativism about? Here's exactly the camera that many of us have been hoping for, the natural next step after the X100. No AA filter, 6 colour sensor with random photosites (to avoid moiré), fast prime lenses, hybrid viewfinder (the optical part changing with the focal length) and with the image quality that Fuji normally digs out of their coffers, photographers will probably be able to take great images with this camera. In many ways, it looks like what the Contax G2 could have developed into if it had been continued into the digital era.
If it's available in February or November, who cares? Fuji seems to have developed a camera that I really, really want, and until I get one, I'll have the pleasure of looking forward to it (and I do have a couple of other cameras that I can use in the meantime)
This is really really tempting. The down side for me personally is 3:2 format and a 53mm equiv. standard focal length--two things I have always had trouble with. The format I find a little narrow (or not narrow enough) and the focal length is just a bit tight. The 18mm lens is nice, though.
I would like to see if you can adapt lenses of different focal lengths and still use the optical finder. That might push me over into the buy column.
But it is a sexy camera.
My guess is any adapted lenses would need the electrical contacts to properly use the optical finder, however, they should work in EVF mode...if Fujifilm allows 'shoot without lens' mode like other mirrorless cams.
Ah... and the lenses have aperture rings. It doesn't get gooder than that
X-Pro1. OMG, the X100 is barely warmed up and ...
Hmmm, Pro1 ... suggests there will be a Pro2 before this one warms up.
The cash-sapping juggernaut never sleeps
I have seen the Fuji and Sony EVFs and I really don't like them. Just a personal thing...
This could be the first real chalenge to the NEX sensor, though if I had to guess IŽd say this camera will be around us$1800 body only. Anyway, IŽd happy enough if the 3 primes that Fuji is also releasing can be adapted to the NEX system with no vignetting or weird distortions
Sony, Panasonic, etc and their "G" lenses will be collecting dust in vendors shelves.
It looks gorgeous - but I can't think of a good reason to want one. . . .
erm. . . . aaah . . . .
No good - (except that it's gorgeous).
I bet it has really good scene modes
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Is anyone selling their used x100s for $500 now? My guess is there will be quite a few on the market when this hits the shelves!
I was also intrigued by the "6 colour sensor with random photosites" comment. Is this anything similar to the way foveon sensors work?
I think this camera is going to pull a lot of people away from the NEX-7. Looks like a real winner.
Fuji is stoking the fire... and doing a good job! But once the product gets close to shipping, competition will leak something "even better" - and there we go again... Marketing games.
The big question is can I mount my M lenses on it (a la NEX series)? Then it would be a definite "poor man's M9".
Adapting the Fujinon lenses to the a NEX is more or less out of the question. In addition to the electronic challenge, the Fuji's flange distance is only 17.7 mm while it's 18mm on the Sony. m4/3 is 19.25 mm.
They are also very strong on service and customer care here and in other Asian markets. They had their own walk-in service department in Bangkok long before Nikon had one here, and it's excellent.
With the great interest in the Fuji X cameras and the Nex 7, I wonder what Olympus and Panasonic will do. Both companies have had huge hits to their camera business and maybe that do not feel they can take a chance or perhaps they are looking at more a general consumer market and will simply not be tempted to challenge that section.
But finally camera companies are starting to make interesting products.
FUJI - BRING IT ON!!!
This might finally make me sell all my Leica gear!
I am sure my emotional “must have the latest and greatest “ will win out but for an M9 owner ...exactly why. Fuji really gets it IMHO and if it follows the x100 it will have few things to fault in IQ . They will surely produce great lenses and the system will be tuned to minimize all the color cast nonsense . Fuji understands color as well as any of these companies and has the capabilities in house . Handling ,menus etc I expect will not be what I want ..but probably can be overcome . The high ISO should reach 3200 for black and white . But ..its a direct overlap to the M9 27 thru 90 FOV ..three lens and two bodies ..the street shooting would be covered .
But it doesn t appear to extend the range of an M system as the NEX 5/7 appear to be doing.
-Similar size (I'm guessing)
-More appealing lens lineup (on paper for most people)
-More appealing controls (aperture control on lens)
If you didn't have an M9, couldn't afford one, and had to pick between the NEX and this Fuji system, which would you pick?
I'm not sure which I'd pick, because I love a good OVF, love a good 35mm equivalent lens, and believe that Sony is committed and on the right track. However, it isn't an easy choice, so it stands to reason that a good number of people will be pulled towards the Fuji camp away from the NEX-7.
My single opinion certainly doesn't mean that there isn't a market for a prime only camera just look at the M9. However, if you asked everyone buying the NEX 7 would you still have bought/plan to buy it if you could only use primes, I bet there are a bunch of people that would say no.
There is no reason that zooms can't work on this camera...certainly in EVF mode; remains to be seen about the focal range of the OVF...
It sure is nice seeing the first lenses out of the box be primes! Has that ever happened in the digital era?
The Fuji may win me over with its files. To a large degree I will adapt to meet a cameras shortcoming IF it produces a great file. I used a DP2 for quite a while. I'm late to the party but currently adapting to my X100 and loving it so far.
I think I'll wait and see what the Fuji can do and work from there. I am sure though they will have checked this new machine for White Disc problem.
I don't suppose anyone cares about the Black (Couleur Noire) X100 in the bottom right of the above picture?!
It seems to me that the NEX-7, Fuji X-PRO 1, GXR, and upcoming Leica system are all going to compete for the enthusiasts who want a midsized body with great controls and top-notch image quality. The Micro 4/3 and Nikon systems will each have a slightly different niche than the rest, based on lens size.
Right - let's go
But after a month with an X100, I found that In EVF mode I had to trust to the camera . . and in OVF mode . . . I had to trust to the camera. That was with AF . . with MF it was even worse.
the NEX7 is absolutely precise with the focus peaking . . and if I want an OVF then the rangefinder of the M9 is the answer.
I always thought Contax really missed the point with the G - if you want a 'real view' viewfinder, then an slr is the answer - the joy and point of a rangefinder is being able to see around the motif . . Fuji seem to have grabbed the same misconception with the X100 and again with this camera.
However, even assuming that there are adapters, and you can fit other lenses on the Fuji (which seems likely) how is the OVF going to handle that? It seems unlikely that it'll be elegant.
But I'm sounding grumpy here - I think this camera is a wonderful venture, and it's really good that Leica have some competition, but this seems to me like a wonderful and limited concept, whereas the NEX 7 is a kind of chameleon camera, incredibly flexible and with almost unlimited extendability . . . I just don't see this flexibility here. It seems to me to be very like the Konica Hexar - splendid and laudable . . but neither the devil, nor the deep blue sea.
So, back to my point - whatever the benefits and wonders of this camera . . I can't really see it as competition for the NEX7.
But probably I'm missing the point!
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Jono, all of your points are good, but in large part they relate to your specific preferences. I think that if were were to take a poll of everyone considering purchase of the NEX-7, a significant portion of those folks would also consider the Fuji system. I'm not saying "everyone" or "most people".
But now I'm repeating myself, which is never a good thing in a forum .
Of course my points relate to my personal preferences . . I think I might be the only person on the whole globe who thought the Contax G camera was a bad idea (and I certainly wasn't against Contax - my RTSII stands as an all time favourite).
much more importantly (and not repeating myself) I can take this opportunity to be less grumpy and to wish you a
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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Happy New Year, my friend