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    A few more hours standing in the cold and I perhaps could have got the full star trails. I somehow suspect that the battery would have died first though!

    Busy place even at 11pm that night!
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    Beautiful shot Graham, and having an interest in astrophotography, makes it even more so, well done. You guys are lucky having a pole star like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Smoking Camera View Post
    Carl, this is beautiful.
    Can you enlighten me on your split tone monochrome process. Thanks.
    Thanks Joe. I use the split tone sliders in LR and my split tone slider starting points with a desaturated RGB file are as follows:

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    Yosemite Falls under the light of the super moon. Basically still noise free!

    X-Pro1 18mm 6min @ f/4 ISO 200
    Another beauty Graham. Well done. Did you have long exposure noise reduction on?
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    Carl,

    This was taken with long exposure NR option off and the default jpg NR set to 0 (standard).

    The long exposure setting would have caused a dark frame shot, doubling the amount of time for every shot. To be honest, it didn't need it from what I can see.

    I don't know if the Fuji Raw converter uses the standard NR setting when rendering a raw file - if so, then it did a great job because there's basically no noise in the raw -> tiff converted file. I couldn't see anything relating to the NR being picked up by the converter and I had assumed that this was only for jpgs.

    The fun thing is that I was actually there shooting with my Phase One MF gear too. I simply would not have been able to capture this with my IQ160 @ 6 minutes without substantial post processing to deal with the noise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    The moonbow was shot in manual mode using bulb exposure and a good old fashioned cable release. What's really funny was that the other folks around me were using the timer display on the back of the X-Pro1 so that they could accurately release their DSLR shutters.

    For moonlight shots I followed the normal approach of using a starting point of 4 min @ f/4 & ISO 400 but it was exceptionally bright and so ended up at 1-1/2 minutes to get a reasonable exposure without blowing out the water. White balance was daylight although I tuned the grey point in PS to neutralize it a bit.

    The other nice thing about the X-Pro1 is the manual focusing control - for this scene I was able to use the focus scale on the rear LCD to zone focus manually because the light levels were too low to use any form of AF or the viewfinder directly. Just simply dial in the focus and watch the focus indicator so that it was at 100ft -> infinity and you're done.

    I processed this using the Fuji raw converter but it only outputs 8bit & Adobe RGB to generate a tiff for PS. I'd rather produce 16bit ProPhotoRGB raws and so maybe I need to look at RPP or Silkypix for that until we have ACR support. Processing was just grey point neutralization, a little shadow/highlight to bring up the shadows and basic tone curve.

    The good news is that the jpg looks pretty darned close too! I'm very impressed with the X-Pro1. The corners get a little smeary with the 18mm but overall all of the lenses seem excellent too. I just wish that 14mm were available today.

    FYI, here's the out of camera jpg - just resized and sharpened for web - hmm, I think I may revisit the image and tone down that sky in the raw version.
    Stunning, Graham!
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    Finally returned home and had a chance to view and process my NYC street photos.
    Here are my favorites using the 35/1.4 and Silver Efex Pro.
    Invited to display a few of these images at the Canon USA Gallery in Honolulu next month.
    I guess they have no problem showing Fuji images.
    Enjoy.

    f/1.4


    f/1.4


    f/4


    f/1.4


    f/1.4


    f/1.4


    f/5.6


    f/8


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    Ok you have talent
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Smoking Camera View Post
    Finally returned home and had a chance to view and process my NYC street photos.
    Here are my favorites using the 35/1.4 and Silver Efex Pro.
    Invited to display a few of these images at the Canon USA Gallery in Honolulu next month.
    I guess they have no problem showing Fuji images.
    Enjoy.
    Joe......welcome home. Are you printing out any of your pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich M View Post
    Joe......welcome home. Are you printing out any of your pics?

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    Thanks Rich. Yes, just sent a batch to Mpix. Haven't done much B&W printing lately so I'm a bit curious how these will look. Any suggestions?
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    Lovely work Jolly. Colors look great.
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    Lovely shot Jolly, whereabouts is the station shot taken?
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    @Joe -- stunningly good street photos! Love them all!
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    The weather's been unusually nice this week. I really like this camera and lens. JPEGS shot at AA. Letting the camera do it's thing.

    X-Pro 1; 60mm f/2.4; 1/150s @ f/5; ISO 200


    X-Pro 1; 60mm f/2.4; 1/300s @ f/5.6; ISO 200


    X-Pro 1; 60mm f/2.4; 1/420s @ f/8; ISO 200


    X-Pro 1; 60mm f/2.4; 1/400s @ f/6.4; ISO 200


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    Lovely shots, Matt.
    And this lens is a little gem, very well corrected.

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    Great stuff, everybody. I'm really enjoying this thread. Photographers in the GetDPI Forum. myself included, are certainly peripatetic. Except, for that photographer, who only has one camera and lens, and always posts in the same thread. Not sure which one it was?

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    Lovely shots, Matt.
    And this lens is a little gem, very well corrected.
    Ario: Thanks!

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    The weather's been unusually nice this week. I really like this camera and lens. JPEGS shot at AA. Letting the camera do it's thing.
    ...

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    This is one of those cameras that I'm increasingly becoming more and more trusting of it's automation and jpg capabilities. It's hard for me to let go and not shoot everything manually or at least AE priority with EV compensation. Ditto processing raw files - the Fuji converter seems pretty decent for neutral base images that I then load in to PS CS5 for basic curves and setting a grey point. Nothing else needed in most files so far, and then after all that they annoyingly end up looking almost like the out of camera jpg!

    Are you shooting at the recommended AA settings or do you dial in any -EV? With AE mode I find myself happiest leaving at least -1/3EV most of the time or adjusting to protect the highlights if the preview histogram suggests over exposure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    This is one of those cameras that I'm increasingly becoming more and more trusting of it's automation and jpg capabilities. It's hard for me to let go and not shoot everything manually or at least AE priority with EV compensation. Ditto processing raw files - the Fuji converter seems pretty decent for neutral base images that I then load in to PS CS5 for basic curves and setting a grey point. Nothing else needed in most files so far, and then after all that they annoyingly end up looking almost like the out of camera jpg!

    Are you shooting at the recommended AA settings or do you dial in any -EV? With AE mode I find myself happiest leaving at least -1/3EV most of the time or adjusting to protect the highlights if the preview histogram suggests over exposure.
    Graham: The jpgs are pretty darn good!

    My normal shooting mode is aperture priority. I'm pleased with the results from AA on this camera. Right now, I'm leaving the EV, alone. The images are slightly 'exposed to the right'. However, -1/3 EV is the basic setting on my M9 and Nex 7. I do adjust the max. Auto ISO, which works quite well. If the exposure's screwed up, it's my error for 'setting' it on the wrong spot. I'm just going to shoot it 'recreationally' for a while (actually, it always 'recreation' for me ).

    There's a set of electrical wires with a marina in the background near my office. I've shot it with every camera that I've owned in the last two years (Nikon/Sony/Leica/Ricoh). I focus on the wires. This camera auto focused on the background. Focusing performance is my only quibble about the X-Pro 1.

    BTW: Stunning landscapes from Yosemite!

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    Thanks Armanius.
    Matt your images are superb.
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    This is a hard act to follow after viewing the latest images of Graham, Jolly, Rich, Matt, Joe, and Carl.

    Along the backyard fence with the 60/2.4 ...jpegs...bottom 2 are b&w conversions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benroy View Post
    This is a hard act to follow after viewing the latest images of Graham, Jolly, Rich, Matt, Joe, and Carl.

    Along the backyard fence with the 60/2.4 ...jpegs...bottom 2 are b&w conversions.
    Very nice Roy. I love the texture of weathered wood. The compositions with the vine and the shot with nails are great.
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    Very nice Roy. I love the texture of weathered wood. The compositions with the vine and the shot with nails are great.
    +1 I agree Roy......very nice shots.

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    Thanks Rich. Yes, just sent a batch to Mpix. Haven't done much B&W printing lately so I'm a bit curious how these will look. Any suggestions?
    Joe.....I still haven't found a B&W print option I like. I have an Epson 3800 and even using the ABW (Advanced BW mode), I still see metamerism in the prints.

    I haven't found a quality custom printer to outsource either.

    I have been considering converting the 3800 to a Piezography ink set, but the conversion and subsequent profiling efforts seem a little daunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m_driscoll View Post
    The weather's been unusually nice this week. I really like this camera and lens. JPEGS shot at AA. Letting the camera do it's thing.

    X-Pro 1; 60mm f/2.4; 1/300s @ f/5.6; ISO 200

    Matt.....this is a classic (and nice bokeh too) !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich M View Post
    Joe.....I still haven't found a B&W print option I like. I have an Epson 3800 and even using the ABW (Advanced BW mode), I still see metamerism in the prints.

    I haven't found a quality custom printer to outsource either.

    I have been considering converting the 3800 to a Piezography ink set, but the conversion and subsequent profiling efforts seem a little daunting.

    R
    I can highly recommend an Epson printer with Claria inks and QTR driver for making outstanding B&W prints (particularly on metallic gloss papers). Lou Dina and I collaborated last year on a QTR profiling project for the Epson 1400 and produced a number of profile sets (neutral, warm, cool, and Selenium) for many popular papers. The neutral curves are dead neutral with no metamerism or color casts and you can produce a variety of hues using the curves blender in QTR. Neutral B&W prints on glossy metallic are identical in appearance to MPIX metallic B&W prints. The curves are available for download in the Files section of the Yahoo QuadtoneRIP forum site or I can email to anyone who wants to try them.

    Link to curves files (you may have to be a member to download)
    Link for Tutorial by Lou Dina
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    Kiteboarding on water and land. XP1 with 35mm f/1.4



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    Quote Originally Posted by benroy View Post
    Along the backyard fence with the 60/2.4 ...jpegs...bottom 2 are b&w conversions.
    You are a true artist to create these cool images.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich M View Post
    Joe.....I still haven't found a B&W print option I like. I have an Epson 3800 and even using the ABW (Advanced BW mode), I still see metamerism in the prints.

    I haven't found a quality custom printer to outsource either.

    I have been considering converting the 3800 to a Piezography ink set, but the conversion and subsequent profiling efforts seem a little daunting.

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    Just received the Mpix images on True B&W Illford. Not really happy with the contrast. Blacks not deep enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scho View Post
    I can highly recommend an Epson printer with Claria inks and QTR driver for making outstanding B&W prints (particularly on metallic gloss papers). Lou Dina and I collaborated last year on a QTR profiling project for the Epson 1400 and produced a number of profile sets (neutral, warm, cool, and Selenium) for many popular papers. The neutral curves are dead neutral with no metamerism or color casts and you can produce a variety of hues using the curves blender in QTR. Neutral B&W prints on glossy metallic are identical in appearance to MPIX metallic B&W prints. The curves are available for download in the Files section of the Yahoo QuadtoneRIP forum site or I can email to anyone who wants to try them.
    Carl would you know how a B&W image would look printed on B&W Illford paper versus Metallic paper?
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    Carl would you know how a B&W image would look printed on B&W Illford paper versus Metallic paper?
    Hi Joe,

    I don't know what the Ilford B&W paper is like, but we were getting dmax values of about L=3.2 or D=2.4 to 2.5 on the inkjet metallic glossy papers (Lexjet, Red River, Chrome, etc. - they are all the same). The nice thing about the Claria inks on these high gloss papers is that they don't sit on top of the paper like pigments, which will produce gloss differential and bronzing. The image appears to be in the print and not floating on top (similar to the silver based MPIX metallic on Kodak endura paper). If you remember what the old glossy ferrotyped B&W silver papers were like, then this is similar. Deep blacks. If you don't like the high gloss surface then Red River Polar Matte (highest dmax matte paper I've seen and flat matte) or Canson Platine (for a cotton fiber based air dried glossy look) will give decent dmax (about D 1.8 -2.0) with Claria inks and QTR.
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    Joe: Thank you, sir! Btw; the pp on your last set of images is stunning(as are the photos, of course)
    Benroy: That's a beautiful set. #'s 1 and 4 are my picks. Artful compositions. :thumb up:
    Rich: Thanks!
    Carl: Excellent captures.

    Here's a couple from the other night's SLUG (Seattle Leica User's Group) meeting. Coke bottle (mine), Ed, Dan, and Kay. X-Pro 1 w/ 18mm f/2.









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    The monsoon season has begun here in South Florida...after the rain, overcast skies...using 60/2.4 in Velvia mode...really brings out saturated colors.

    Oil slick images found in my next door neighbor's driveway... serendipitous!
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    Quote Originally Posted by m_driscoll View Post
    Joe: Thank you, sir! Btw; the pp on your last set of images is stunning(as are the photos, of course)
    Benroy: That's a beautiful set. #'s 1 and 4 are my picks. Artful compositions. :thumb up:
    Rich: Thanks!
    Carl: Excellent captures.

    Here's a couple from the other night's SLUG (Seattle Leica User's Group) meeting. Coke bottle (mine), Ed, Dan, and Kay. X-Pro 1 w/ 18mm f/2.
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    Nice bokeh shot and casual portraits. That shot of Dan would make a good coke adv. "I should've had a coke"
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    Quote Originally Posted by benroy View Post
    The monsoon season has begun here in South Florida...after the rain, overcast skies...using 60/2.4 in Velvia mode...really brings out saturated colors.

    Oil slick images found in my next door neighbor's driveway... serendipitous!
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    Beautiful abstract shots of the oil slicks.
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    Hi Joe,

    I don't know what the Ilford B&W paper is like, but we were getting dmax values of about L=3.2 or D=2.4 to 2.5 on the inkjet metallic glossy papers (Lexjet, Red River, Chrome, etc. - they are all the same). The nice thing about the Claria inks on these high gloss papers is that they don't sit on top of the paper like pigments, which will produce gloss differential and bronzing. The image appears to be in the print and not floating on top (similar to the silver based MPIX metallic on Kodak endura paper). If you remember what the old glossy ferrotyped B&W silver papers were like, then this is similar. Deep blacks. If you don't like the high gloss surface then Red River Polar Matte (highest dmax matte paper I've seen and flat matte) or Canson Platine (for a cotton fiber based air dried glossy look) will give decent dmax (about D 1.8 -2.0) with Claria inks and QTR.
    Carl.....just so I understand, off the shelf Claria inks, an Epson 1400 six-ink printer and the QuadTone rip got the results you were satisfied with?

    I converted a 1400 with a MIS ink set years ago and it was a MESS. Ink everywhere and lots of clogging/cleaning/purging.

    I bought the ABW Epson driver with the 3800 would be my solution, but my fiber prints don't have the d-max and the ink sits on top of the glossy papers (with that slight greenish cast).

    Maybe we should take this to the Printing & Output forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich M View Post
    Carl.....just so I understand, off the shelf Claria inks, an Epson 1400 six-ink printer and the QuadTone rip got the results you were satisfied with?

    I converted a 1400 with a MIS ink set years ago and it was a MESS. Ink everywhere and lots of clogging/cleaning/purging.

    I bought the ABW Epson driver with the 3800 would be my solution, but my fiber prints don't have the d-max and the ink sits on top of the glossy papers (with that slight greenish cast).

    Maybe we should take this to the Printing & Output forum.

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    Rich,

    Yes, the advantage of the 1400 is the very small drop size which obviates the need for gray inks, at least for small prints. I had hoped that that Epson (or others) might take the Claria type ink technology further with a larger format printer. Paul Roark has done this by making his own LF ink set based on Claria (Noritsu) type inks. The stock OEM Claria inks with the 1400 are quite capable of producing fine prints on both glossy and matte papers, but they really shine with the new metallic type media. You do need to use QTR, but the profiles are done already so easy to use. Roy Harrington is also developing a new commercial print tool app (in beta) that will make life easier for Mac users. There is already a nice QTR GUI for PC folks. As you say, we probably should take this discussion to the printing forum or PM if there is more to talk about.
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    Yosemite Falls under the light of the super moon. Basically still noise free!

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    That is a great picture, you always impress me with your works, it doesn't matter if it is with MF or with X1 Pro.
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    Gorgeous shots Ashwin.
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    A freshly painted bridge support receives a fresh coat of Graffiti. XP1 with 35mm f/1.4. Processed with Photobrom color preset in RPP.

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    Ashwin.......Carl, very nice captures.

    Here are three from yesterday with the CV12.










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    Wow, Rich - gorgeous colour!.

    So rich, so solid and continuous tonality... I don't believe this can be replicated with simple post processing of another sensor.

    Fuji Magic Sensor!

    Thanks for sharing, everyone above... keep 'em coming

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    Ashwin.......Carl, very nice captures.

    Here are three from yesterday with the CV12.
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    Wow, Rich - gorgeous colour!.

    So rich, so solid and continuous tonality... I don't believe this can be replicated with simple post processing of another sensor.

    Fuji Magic Sensor!

    Thanks for sharing, everyone above... keep 'em coming

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    Brian.....there is something extraordinary about this sensor......it is so clean...and has seamless transitions.......yet has a look that is for lack of a better way to describe "less digital".

    I love this camera in a way that I have not felt with the many others.....every day, I can't wait to go shoot it. It makes everything look new and different.

    Here's a shot as the sun was setting......last rays through the screen, focus on the lip of the cup (with the Fujinon 35 @ 1.4). None of my other cameras would have captured it so effortlessly.

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    Very Nice Rich. Corners look pretty good with that 12mm.
    Yes.....no smearing....no magenta. Kipon adapter.....hits infinity at the hard stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich M View Post
    Brian.....there is something extraordinary about this sensor......it is so clean...and has seamless transitions.......yet has a look that is for lack of a better way to describe "less digital".

    I love this camera in a way that I have not felt with the many others.....every day, I can't wait to go shoot it. It makes everything look new and different.
    Rich, I feel the same way about my X-Pro1. There's a certain "something" about the images that I personally like. I know that's hardly scientific but at the end of the day I know what I like and the Fuji delivers.

    I never really understood the strong affinity certain people had to the Fuji DSLRs in the past and their colour and highlight rendering but I'm beginning to get it now. I've also been very happy with my X100 and to a somewhat lesser degree with my X10 (both of which are feeling neglected since I got the X-Pro1 system).
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    Graham, I suspect that this has more to do with the non-Bayer sensor rather than its Fuji lineage. And add to that the lack of AA filter, this really is a different beast. Has anyone who really knows (I surely don't) been able to assess the difference?

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