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    X-T2... oh bugger

    - 3 batteries
    - 2 SD cards
    - 4K video
    - 24 MP

    Now we're talking

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    Now, my travel set would be complete
    But no haste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul2660 View Post
    X-T2, probably the most known about "new" camera Fuji ever made. Looks great, sad to have to wait to mid September for the actual cameras.

    Paul C
    Fine to wait to September to

    - Sell the rest of my Nikon gear
    - See what the E-M1 will be like
    - See what the GH5 will be like

    - Figure out what to do next

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    Here's an early review by someone who actually uses cameras for taking photos:

    https://jonasraskphotography.com/201...m-x-t2-review/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Fine to wait to September to

    - Sell the rest of my Nikon gear
    - See what the E-M1 will be like
    - See what the GH5 will be like

    - Figure out what to do next
    Wait for the X-T3 ...
    Bart ...

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    I'm waiting... and have been since I sold the X-T1 a month ago...

    Can wait to buy one until after the first firmware release though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Wait for the X-T3 ...
    This is the X-T3. When the X-Pro2 was launched, without a bigger battery or the option for a battery grip, without the video options I need and without an articulated screen, I didn't expect the X-T2 to fix all that, and I went with m4/3. Now, they've fixed all of the above and more too. Must be the X-T3 then

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    Then I thought "(Un)fortunately, Fuji doesn't have anything that competes to my favourite m4/3 lens, the Zuiko 75mm f/1.8. That was until I realised that the Fuji 90mm f/2 is exactly that and maybe even more.

    This is starting to become tricky, Mr. Fuji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    This is the X-T3. When the X-Pro2 was launched, without a bigger battery or the option for a battery grip, without the video options I need and without an articulated screen, I didn't expect the X-T2 to fix all that, and I went with m4/3. Now, they've fixed all of the above and more too. Must be the X-T3 then
    Speaking of 'articulated' screen: the K1's is pretty cool, but I think Fuji did a fine job too.
    I like it better than the EM1's or GX8's implementations.

    But then what lens ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Fine to wait to September to

    - Sell the rest of my Nikon gear
    - See what the E-M1 will be like
    - See what the GH5 will be like

    - Figure out what to do next
    I figure I will hope the XT-1 will drop to $500. Then pick up a bargain.
    Although I really like that portrait tilt on the X-T2 screen, I could use that.

    I don't suppose the Fuji APS-C Lenses will cover their MFM? - ONLY JOKIN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Speaking of 'articulated' screen: the K1's is pretty cool, but I think Fuji did a fine job too.
    I like it better than the EM1's or GX8's implementations.

    But then what lens ...
    I like the GX8 implementation the most, partly because of the flexibility and most of all because it can be turned inwards, protecting the screen and removing an element of distraction. The X-T2 solution is not bad though, and certainly better than on the E-M1. I expect the E-M1 II to get the GX8 solution though.

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    The X-T2 capabilities simply look absolutely stunning. There's no other way to say it.

    If Fuji did this camera as an X-E3 and ideally a tad smaller than the X-E2/X-E1 line, then it would make me think about going back to Fuji.

    But I still respect what they did here.

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    Re: X-T2... oh bugger

    Why is this thread?

    Isn't this an old camera? There is even a picture thread for it.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Why is this thread?

    Isn't this an old camera? There is even a picture thread for it.....
    There's a picture thread for it because the sensor, and probably the processing, is the same as with the X-Pro2, but it was launched yesterday.
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    Well done, Fuji! I will certainly be ordering one, but will probably wait for the first firmware update and/or the first set of deals to be had.

    Still very happy with the results I get from my XT-1 so I'm not in a rush... This will probably change when I test one out, though

    Some things that I'm wondering about the XT-2...

    -noticed that it has a new battery. Will there be any cross compatibility with current batteries/chargers? Would be unfortunate to have to maintain *another* set of camera specific batteries.

    -new flash (finally!). Unfortunate that they elected for retro looks instead of IR focus assist. I hope it will be fully compatible with XT1 and x100s, although that would likely mean a firmware update, which may not happen. Hopefully Phottix and/or Profoto soon think it worthwhile to make a Fuji trigger. Would love take advantage of high speed sync. If HSS is exclusive to XT2 this may speed up my purchase plan...
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    Yes.

    Battery and chargers.

    From the information i have gleaned from the web.


    Quote Originally Posted by med View Post
    Well done, Fuji! I will certainly be ordering one, but will probably wait for the first firmware update and/or the first set of deals to be had.


    -noticed that it has a new battery. Will there be any cross compatibility with current batteries/chargers? Would be unfortunate to have to maintain *another* set of camera specific batteries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayyan View Post
    Yes.

    Battery and chargers.

    From the information i have gleaned from the web.
    That is great news, thanks!

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    From what I've read, the batteries have better heat management. Better when shooting video, especially CPU/sensor intensive 4K.

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    Interesting to see what is posted in this thread about the XT2

    I have not contributed yet as I was not sure myself if the XT2 would be coming close to my ideal camera or not - and you know what?

    From what I have read and seen so far and from my past experience with Fuji X system I must say that this is THE camera that comes closest to my ideal camera and system today!

    The rest is pretty obvious - right

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    Looks like a really nice improvement over the X-T1. It'll be awhile before I upgrade my X-T1 personally. I have more Fuji glass calling my name and the X-T1, while the user experience frustrates me, is still serving my purposes just fine.

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    I don't know what I would do with one of these.

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    It looks like a very nice evolution to me. Not sure I will get one right away, but at some point. My x-t1 is quite happy.

    The 23mm and especially the 80mm macro look promising to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougDolde View Post
    I don't know what I would do with one of these.
    Unfortunately, the user manual won't be available until September. Download it then. It may give you an indication of what it can be used for. In the meantime, I suggest you study the brochure. The camera has a small button on the top right when you hold it up with the lens pointing away from you. If you push that button, it will take a photo. Just remember to adjust it to P-mode (P for professional, you don't want the camera to behave like an amateur, will you?) first. If you hold the camera up with the lens pointing towards you, it doesn't matter what buttons you push. That's what iPhones are for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Unfortunately, the user manual won't be available until September. Download it then. It may give you an indication of what it can be used for. In the meantime, I suggest you study the brochure. The camera has a small button on the top right when you hold it up with the lens pointing away from you. If you push that button, it will take a photo. Just remember to adjust it to P-mode (P for professional, you don't want the camera to behave like an amateur, will you?) first. If you hold the camera up with the lens pointing towards you, it doesn't matter what buttons you push. That's what iPhones are for

    http://www.fujirumors.com/tag/fuji-x...nual-download/
    I mean I just have no use for this type of camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Unfortunately, the user manual won't be available until September. Download it then. It may give you an indication of what it can be used for. In the meantime, I suggest you study the brochure. The camera has a small button on the top right when you hold it up with the lens pointing away from you. If you push that button, it will take a photo. Just remember to adjust it to P-mode (P for professional, you don't want the camera to behave like an amateur, will you?) first. If you hold the camera up with the lens pointing towards you, it doesn't matter what buttons you push. That's what iPhones are for

    http://www.fujirumors.com/tag/fuji-x...nual-download/

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    To add to the confusion, why Fuji are recycling old designations (TX1, TX2 and XT1, XT2)?

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    Thank you kindly for that informative
    Contribution to this thread.

    Best.

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    I mean I just have no use for this type of camera.
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    I would be interested to understand why there are so many critical and unqualified contributions when such a ground braking revolution in camera history appears?

    Is it pure envy, ignorance, inability to understand or accept, fear to find that there is something better already out or what else???????

    This is one of the most innovative cameras (systems) out in 2016 and we should be glad we have so many excellent choices.

    So if folks do not like what Fuji did with the XT2 and the X system overall, IMHO they should simply overlook this inappropriate attempt to design and build a better system than any other available one and keep happily shooting with whatever far superior system they already have at hand.

    The others who can appreciate what Fuji did with the XT2 and the X system as it is should just be happy about the status that has been achieved and keep on buying these new tools and producing excellent results.

    Any issues with that approach? Just my 5c .....
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    It is interesting that the T in XT stands for Taurus!

    http://www.fujirumors.com/fuji-x-t2-...-stuff-plates/

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    Another review...

    Fuji XT-2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    It is interesting that the T in XT stands for Taurus!

    http://www.fujirumors.com/fuji-x-t2-...-stuff-plates/
    Actually that's just the code name... Similar to the code name for the first Monochrom being Henri or the second one being Elliot.

    The T in X-T actually stands for "Tough." As Fuji intended the X-T series to be the ruggedized "working pro's" flagship while the X-Pro was meant as the street and photojournalists flagship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    I would be interested to understand why there are so many critical and unqualified contributions when such a ground braking revolution in camera history appears?

    Is it pure envy, ignorance, inability to understand or accept, fear to find that there is something better already out or what else???????

    This is one of the most innovative cameras (systems) out in 2016 and we should be glad we have so many excellent choices.

    So if folks do not like what Fuji did with the XT2 and the X system overall, IMHO they should simply overlook this inappropriate attempt to design and build a better system than any other available one and keep happily shooting with whatever far superior system they already have at hand.

    The others who can appreciate what Fuji did with the XT2 and the X system as it is should just be happy about the status that has been achieved and keep on buying these new tools and producing excellent results.

    Any issues with that approach? Just my 5c .....
    You bring up a $1 Million dollar question...

    Many people in many threads seem to drop by solely to tell people they have no interest in a product (which seems ridiculous to constantly reiterate.) It's usually followed with a plug for their camera of choice that's clearly superior.

    It's well known here that I'm a Sony shooter (not because I think it's the end all be all but because it made the most sense for me personally) but that doesn't stop me from engaging in friendly conversation or even admiring what some other manufacturers are doing. For instance I wouldn't mind if Sony made a camera similar to the X-Pro (in design) but more friendly to my hand size. I also wouldn't mind if Sony took a page out of Hasselblad's book for how to design a clean next generation menu system. I personally think Canon and Nikon could take a page from Sony when it comes to releasing revolutionary and exciting new products that many photographers want. I think Phase One would be really smart to open up their software to support other MF cameras because I read about a large enough number of people that maintain Adobe accounts out of necessity.

    I think there are many things that each company does really well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    I would be interested to understand why there are so many critical and unqualified contributions when such a ground braking revolution in camera history appears?

    Is it pure envy, ignorance, inability to understand or accept, fear to find that there is something better already out or what else???????

    This is one of the most innovative cameras (systems) out in 2016 and we should be glad we have so many excellent choices.

    So if folks do not like what Fuji did with the XT2 and the X system overall, IMHO they should simply overlook this inappropriate attempt to design and build a better system than any other available one and keep happily shooting with whatever far superior system they already have at hand.

    The others who can appreciate what Fuji did with the XT2 and the X system as it is should just be happy about the status that has been achieved and keep on buying these new tools and producing excellent results.

    Any issues with that approach? Just my 5c .....
    It's the standard Internet behavior. Something hot comes along and someone isn't into it, so they trash it.

    Plus the need to justify their purchases by verifying to themselves that they have the best Item of type 'X' out there. (Camera, car, phone, computer, floss, you name it)

    Too much "shouting" and not enough thinking.

    As I said above, I like the X-T2, but I'm not going to get it immediately. I want to save up for a couple of the new lenses.

    I do wish Fuji would give a greater range for bracketing. That seems to keep not happening. Plus, I do miss the live timed exposures that oly came up with. It'd be nice to see something like that on Fuji.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greypilgrim View Post
    best Item of type 'X'
    I see what you did there

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    Having opinions about stuff that someone doesn't use, at least not on a daily basis, wasn't invented with the internet. It has always existed, but became more visible with the internet. Although some of the opinions aren't very useful and/or well founded, critisism must always be expected. No product is without flaws, but many followers of a brand, call them fanboys if you want, have problems seeing those flaws. However bad the rants are, the current breed of Sony, Fuji, Olympus etc. haters have a long way to go before things get as bad as they were when the Canon vs. Nikon debates were at their height.

    I usually learn more from those who disagree with me than from those who share my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiredArm View Post
    You bring up a $1 Million dollar question...

    Many people in many threads seem to drop by solely to tell people they have no interest in a product (which seems ridiculous to constantly reiterate.) It's usually followed with a plug for their camera of choice that's clearly superior.

    It's well known here that I'm a Sony shooter (not because I think it's the end all be all but because it made the most sense for me personally) but that doesn't stop me from engaging in friendly conversation or even admiring what some other manufacturers are doing. For instance I wouldn't mind if Sony made a camera similar to the X-Pro (in design) but more friendly to my hand size. I also wouldn't mind if Sony took a page out of Hasselblad's book for how to design a clean next generation menu system. I personally think Canon and Nikon could take a page from Sony when it comes to releasing revolutionary and exciting new products that many photographers want. I think Phase One would be really smart to open up their software to support other MF cameras because I read about a large enough number of people that maintain Adobe accounts out of necessity.

    I think there are many things that each company does really well.
    I thank you for a positive approach. You seem to see the good in the efforts that are made.

    In a lab somewhere I see a poor camera engineer who tried to read everyone's mind, keep his boss and the marketing dept happy and deal with the laws of nature. Such is the life of an engineer. If a horse was designed by a committee, it would end up looking like a camel.

    I will go on a bit of limb here and add that I think the user has a responsibility to adapt themselves to a certain extent to the product. Nothing will be perfect. Either find away around the imperfections, look for something else or go home. - Just dressing in my flame suit now.

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    XT2 is the camera i have been waiting for, but i think the launch price is abit high consider i paid just over 1000 GBP for A7r couple of years ago. as much as i think XT2 ticks pretty much every box i can think of, i cant justify spending that much ona non-FF but i think the starting japanese grey import price is around 950GBP, so hopefully i can pick one up around 900GBP before xmas
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    Quote Originally Posted by UHDR View Post
    XT2 is the camera i have been waiting for, but i think the launch price is abit high consider i paid just over 1000 GBP for A7r couple of years ago. as much as i think XT2 ticks pretty much every box i can think of, i cant justify spending that much ona non-FF but i think the starting japanese grey import price is around 950GBP, so hopefully i can pick one up around 900GBP before xmas
    An interesting comparison indeed. Unfortunately, the current top Sony the A7R II costs almost exactly twice as much as the X-T2, $3,200 vs. $1,600. The 24MP A7 II on the other hand, is just $100 more expensive than the Fuji and 100 grams heavier. The question is if it's worth $100 more:







    The lenses:
    Fujinon 56mm f/1.2 (84mm eqv.), $999 and 405 grams (total weight = 912g)
    Sony 85mm f/1.4, $1,798 and 820 grams (total weight = 1,419g)



    Fujinon 16-55mm f/2.8 (24-82mm eqv.), $1,199 and 655 grams (total weight = 1,162g)
    Zeiss 24-70mm f/4, $1,198 and 430 grams (total weight = 1,209g)



    I own neither camera, but what the above figures and illustrations tell me is that the differences in quality, price and weight are ignorable between these two systems when using camera bodies and lenses of similar price. No normal person would be able to see any significant difference in image quality between them. The fact that one has a larger sensor is also becoming irrelevant unless one chooses to buy the more expensive Sony top model that offers significantly higher resolution, an even then, one would have to print very large to see the difference. What it boils down to is personal preferences.

    Where I live, Sony and Fuji happen to be the two best selling brands of interchangeable lens cameras at the moment. It will be interesting to see what Photokina brings to the table this year.

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    Jorgen, You forget that the Fuji XT2 can do 4K video while the Sony A72 can not! Very important!

    There is this minor issue with sensor stabilization. May be Fuji will issue a few FW updates in the next several months to offset that?

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    I thank you for a positive approach. You seem to see the good in the efforts that are made.

    In a lab somewhere I see a poor camera engineer who tried to read everyone's mind, keep his boss and the marketing dept happy and deal with the laws of nature. Such is the life of an engineer. If a horse was designed by a committee, it would end up looking like a camel.

    I will go on a bit of limb here and add that I think the user has a responsibility to adapt themselves to a certain extent to the product. Nothing will be perfect. Either find away around the imperfections, look for something else or go home. - Just dressing in my flame suit now.
    I try to be as objective as I can be most of the time. There really aren't many bad cameras these days in reality. I can't see myself using a sensor smaller than 35mm FF though for myself so Fuji is out of the game for me until they release their rumored MF camera. I've been looking at them, Micro 4/3, and cropped sensor Sony cameras for my wife though.

    Consequently, regarding engineers, I often lament engineers that create products without the input of users/operators. The saying "they were so happy with the fact that they could that they never really asked if they should" comes to mind often with engineers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    An interesting comparison indeed. Unfortunately, the current top Sony the A7R II costs almost exactly twice as much as the X-T2, $3,200 vs. $1,600. The 24MP A7 II on the other hand, is just $100 more expensive than the Fuji and 100 grams heavier. The question is if it's worth $100 more:

    The lenses:
    Fujinon 56mm f/1.2 (84mm eqv.), $999 and 405 grams (total weight = 912g)
    Sony 85mm f/1.4, $1,798 and 820 grams (total weight = 1,419g)

    Fujinon 16-55mm f/2.8 (24-82mm eqv.), $1,199 and 655 grams (total weight = 1,162g)
    Zeiss 24-70mm f/4, $1,198 and 430 grams (total weight = 1,209g)

    I own neither camera, but what the above figures and illustrations tell me is that the differences in quality, price and weight are ignorable between these two systems when using camera bodies and lenses of similar price. No normal person would be able to see any significant difference in image quality between them. The fact that one has a larger sensor is also becoming irrelevant unless one chooses to buy the more expensive Sony top model that offers significantly higher resolution, an even then, one would have to print very large to see the difference. What it boils down to is personal preferences.

    Where I live, Sony and Fuji happen to be the two best selling brands of interchangeable lens cameras at the moment. It will be interesting to see what Photokina brings to the table this year.
    hehe, im not actually replacing my A7r. you can see my signature, i normally run a Fuji/Sony combo anyway. But recently, my tri-elmar front element is turning yellow, and it starts to show in the final image. so i will be replacing my XQ2 and tri-elmar with XT2 and Sony 16-80mm, hence my new travel setup will be:

    A7r + VC 15mm + batis 25mm
    X-T2 + 16-80mm

    the overall bulk and weight will be increased but it's not that bad.

    A7II is not really on my list, A) i like fuji colour, B) i do prefer the AA-less look.
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    IMHO IQ of all sensor sizes has already become so equal that differences between m43, APSC and FF are fading away - at least for me. Having said that I rater appreciate the larger DOF of smaller sensors for most situations and if one really needs small DOF almost in every system there are longer to extreme telephoto lenses available to get the same optical impression as expected form FF.

    Having said that there are also the lenses and lens sizes in the equation and then APSC simply wins hands down to FF, even not to mention m43.

    But what APSC brings to the table is kind of the sweetspot over lens size, camera size, IQ, DR, etc. etc. as long as one does not start again with APSC DSLRs mounting social APSC lenses (CaNikPen) on these bodies or even FF lenses. APSC lenses form the incumbent vendors are mostly an after thought and generally not bringing top quality and FF lenses are simply adding too much bulk and weight to the equation.

    The Fuji X system is kind of in a pretty excellent sweetspot here and that shows in usability, size, weight and optimized IQ. Now that they managed to bring AP to comparable levels, they are offering a really competitive system.

    PS: WRT size and weight - I just tried the Leica SL last week with the 90-280 and while this is a stunning combo with IQ better than most if not anything available today I would really mind carrying this combo around for a full day (or multiple days), as it simply is far too heavy. Which cannot be said from the XT2 with the 100-400 mounted, even with the grip added. At least this my personal opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    what APSC brings to the table is kind of the sweetspot over lens size, camera size, IQ, DR, etc. etc. as long as one does not start again with APSC DSLRs mounting social APSC lenses (CaNikPen)
    This is my finding also. Having carried and used an OM film system with primes for many years, nothing digital has quite been the same. Been to m43 but left as the IQ/DR left me wanting more.

    As Jorgen has pointed out the lens price/size ratio is interesting.
    For me its now either

    Sony A7 II with Sony/Zeiss 50mm and a Zeiss 21mm Loxia or
    Fuji X-T2 2 with Fuji 35mm f2 and 14mm f2.8.

    Price wise the Fuji and lenses is cheaper, tech wise the Fuji has no AA and has 4K (which I may use).
    The Sony has the in-camera stabilizer and is FF.

    Tough choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Jorgen, You forget that the Fuji XT2 can do 4K video while the Sony A72 can not! Very important!

    There is this minor issue with sensor stabilization. May be Fuji will issue a few FW updates in the next several months to offset that?
    There are many things I didn't mention, and again: it's an individual choice. The point for myself and many other photographers is that the sensor size doesn't matter that much anymore, and as Peter and Tim point out above, the APS-C format looks increasingly like a sweet spot. Few photographers have a need for clean ISO above 12,800, and that is where we are getting now. m4/3 still has a noise disadvantage but wins with regards to lens size.

    Here's an interesting review comparing the Fuji 100-400mm to the corresponding PanaLeica. I'm not sure if the m4/3 lens maintains the "crop advantage" here. The Fuji seems to offer more resolution, and if high ISO is needed, Fuji would probably win handsomely. It is heavier though. It's a pity he didn't have a D500 to test the Nikkor on.

    http://naturalexposures.com/mirrorle...nikon-olympus/

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    IIRC, Fuji planted that thought that APS-C (theirs) is on par with full frame (others) when they debuted the XPro1.

    I see that you, Tim and Peter are on the same wavelength and quoting one another is mutual reinforcement.

    That is good as at least one of you is likely to buy the new camera and tell us all if that is true.

    FWIW, the A7 II output shows more color noise (the details are still there) that is easily removed in the post.

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    Fuji has an attractive APS-C lens line up, as do Olympus / Panasonic for MFT.

    One reason for me to use an APS-C a6300 rather than a Fuji camera is that I can use my FE lenses from my A7r/2 cameras in addition to E lenses.

    I find IQ from the various systems sufficient so that other features become important for me. The following items got me to use those systems:

    Telelenses and IBIS: MFT OM-D cameras
    4K video, slow motion x4 and x5 1080p video on tripod: a6300
    Available light photography, IBIS: A7r2

    Lately the TechART Pro autofocus adapter on A7r2 and a6300 has seen a lot of use with my Leica M and R lenses.

    However, none of my systems above exceeds or even matches the focus speed of my D800E with say the AF-S 80-400/4.5-5.6 VR lens. Will the new mirror-less X-T2 be a game changer in that regard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    IIRC, Fuji planted that thought that APS-C (theirs) is on par with full frame (others) when they debuted the XPro1.

    I see that you, Tim and Peter are on the same wavelength and quoting one another is mutual reinforcement.

    That is good as at least one of you is likely to buy the new camera and tell us all if that is true.

    FWIW, the A7 II output shows more color noise (the details are still there) that is easily removed in the post.
    A year or so back dumped everything and have only been using my GR and DP2M.
    I AM in the market for a ICL camera. I will soon, around October be doing some home studio waist up and head shot sitting portraits.
    I feel almost anything could do this but I am looking for a great image. An image to wow.
    My problem is I stupidly want whatever I buy now to double duty for a light travel kit also.

    So I compare the Fuji images for this work and like what I see.
    The A7 may be the better choice still, I am though having to work within a budget so the new Hassleblad is out for me.
    The Fuji, Sony and even the Pentax K1 are on my short lists. I need to go handle the K1.

    As a wildcard I am keeping a Pentax 645D/Z even on the list.
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    Re: X-T2... oh bugger

    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    IIRC, Fuji planted that thought that APS-C (theirs) is on par with full frame (others) when they debuted the XPro1.

    I see that you, Tim and Peter are on the same wavelength and quoting one another is mutual reinforcement.

    That is good as at least one of you is likely to buy the new camera and tell us all if that is true.

    FWIW, the A7 II output shows more color noise (the details are still there) that is easily removed in the post.
    APS-C isn't on par with full frame, and it never will be. However, as sensor technology evolves, the advantage of full frame will become uninteresting, and to a certain degree, it already is. For anybody not needing more than ISO 6400 and 24MP, it's difficult to find a reason to go into full frame. The classic full frame "look"? Lenses have "look", sensors reproduce colours and varying degrees of light and contrast.

    Even a $750 Nikon D5500 offers image quality at least on par with the best full frame cameras that could be bought just 5 years ago. In another 5 years, the APS-C sensors will be 36 or 48MP with a usable ISO of 25,600. Still many will say that full frame is better, and they will be right. The question is: Better for what?

    Here are the D5500 and the 4 years old A99 for comparison. The A99 was around $3,000 at launch, wasn't it? Scary stuff:






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