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Hasselblad Planar T* 2.0/110 FE

PeterA

Well-known member
I would like to buy one of these lenses to use via adaptor on a DSLR if anyone has one they would care to part with or knows where i can get one i would be very grateful

Regards
Pete
 

robmac

Well-known member
Peter, KEH has a couple coming in - they were in In Transit inventory a couple of days ago.
 

Jack

Sr. Administrator
Staff member
I know where there is a version 3 110 F (no E) for $1200 if you are interested in that one...
 

David K

Workshop Member
I've got a 4th generation FE, mint condition with box and your choice of Son's or Hassy's adapter. Planning on taking pics later today. if you're interested send me an email at zaknat AT mac.com

David
 

robmac

Well-known member
gogopix - Son's 2nd 110/2 F is happily waiting in my cabinet for the #$% Hassy-Nikon adapter to get here. I am going with a Hassy/Nikon+Nikon/EOS adapter chipped for 110mm F2.0 to maintain exif data on my 1Ds2.
 
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Jack

Sr. Administrator
Staff member
Peter is asking about an FE lens, and I think Son may have one available...
 

robmac

Well-known member
Of the two coming in to KEH - one is F and one is FE (electronics, cemented rear element pair, increased internal reflection protection with square rear element baffle).

The KEH in-transit FE's 'generation' isn't listed and am not sure as at what generational tweak each modification aside from the Electronics (no use on DSLR anyway) were added, bumping the used price from $1200 (F) to $1900 or so (basic FE) to $3500 or so (very latest FE).
 
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PeterA

Well-known member
Hello everyone and thanks for your input. i am interested in using this lens on a Nikon D3 or a Canon 1dsmk11.

i was very impressed with the pop factor displayed in some shots in a thread the other day.

I have no idea about what adaptors I need and where to get them etc..

David - you have email.

thanks again everyone and any information on how to use this lens on a DSLR would be gratefully received.

Cheers
Pete
 

gogopix

Subscriber
Peter
ck ebay. Lots of hassey to Nikon/Canon adapters

not sure about focus confirmation on either
I would be interested in the best hassey to canon and Nikon as well (actually folks, a little secret, that only Son knows; I actually have a camera with a canon EOS mount!

SHhhh, dont tell anyone or my reputation is RUINED:ROTFL:!
 

robmac

Well-known member
As far as I have seen, there is no Hassey-EOS adapter with a chip.

However, if you ask send an adapter to HK-based Rudolph (aka happypagehk on ebay) and ask nicely John Black indicates he will chip it for you. Rudolph only makes 35mm cross-platform adapters. Rudolph is a great fellow to deal with. Is only adapter player that will encode your adapter to your specs. prompt shipping.

Other options - 'buyitnow' on eBay (not quickest shipping), 101 questionable eBay suppliers as well as Fotodiox and I think Novoflex. Don't know if Kindai (the 35mm adapter gold standard - sold re-badged by CameraQuest) make MF-35mm adapters.

You can also buy the older OEM Contax Hassy-to-Contax 35mm adapter at a used dealer and pair that with a FC Contax-EoS adapter from someone like Rudolph. I suspect the build quality of the Contax unit would be the best of the bunch.

I went with the 'buyitnow' (still enroute) $30 Hassy-Nikon adapter and will pair it with a custom encoded (110mm f2.0) Nikon-EoS adapter (already in hand). This will allow me to use it on Canon with chip, or on a Nikon sans chip.

If for some reason I'm not happy with the Hassy-Nikon unit's quality (infinity could be an issue apparently), I'll move up a notch to the Fotodiox Hassey-Nikon -- or Contax adapter route with a chipped Contax-EoS secondary adapter.

Looking fwd to seeing which iteration of the 110 FE you end up with and your thoughts.
 
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Stuart Richardson

Active member
Peter -- I would recommend just getting the F version of the lens if you are not going to use it on a 200 series hasselblad. You will save a bunch of money and I don't think the electronic contacts will do you any good when you are not on a 200 series. I am not sure, but I doubt that there is any large optical difference between the FE and F series lenses...
 

PeterA

Well-known member
Gentlemen, Rob and Stuart - thank you for that information.

I dont understand the significance of an adaptor being 'chipped' - what does this mean guys?

Pardon my ignorance and thanks again.

Pete
 

robmac

Well-known member
Simply means you have an small eprom epoxied on the adapter. Think adding ROM to a 3cam or 'chipping' an old Nikkor.

Your Canon is fooled into thinking there is an AF lens attached, so it enables focus confirmation within the body and records the programmed focal length and maximum aperture in EXIF with each shot.

There is also a LOT of debate on this (and I'm not going to get into it) but some believe (myself included based on my experience) that the recorded FL and max aperture also aide in manual focus accuracy when using the body's manual focus confirmation light path.

Most chipped adapters come encoded for "50mm F1.8" or "50mm F2.0". Rudolph (mentioned in earlier post) will custom-code any adapter you buy from him (they are very good) for no extra charge if you mention what you comment in a 'note to the seller' on eBay at time of purchase. I get them on the Canadian East coast from HK within a week - Oz should be snappy, snappy.

The trick with a chipped adapter is to find quality ones. If the chip is not located accurately so that each of it's contacts cleanly meets it's intended mate on the camera mount, you can cause error messages - or in VERY rare cases, a short.

I have had very good experience with Rudolph's adapters and his customer service is top-drawer.

Hoada (sic?) - not so much. Stay away.

Kindai/Cameraquest - very nice, top but reasonable prices, black anodized. No chip.

Son used to make custom adapters for exotica - not sure he still does or not (some lenses require ultra-thin or thicker or very low tolerance for defects than is seen with the adapter to achieve infinity focus and/or avoid distortion).

Novoflex makes units, but VERY, VERY costly. For R-EoS adapters, Novoflex uses the same mount hardware as does Leica for the R bodies.

Fotodiox makes respected units. No chipping.

Every 3rd villager in China with a lathe and a mill seems to be kicking these things out - so buyer beware. Too cheap - junk, $300 (Novoflex) - give me a break.

Cheap adapters can be too thin, too thick, sloppy fitting (on either side), not flat, uneven plating, eprom PCB not placed properly, etc. Saw a thread some time ago where the workers took a rasp to an adapter's PCB to get it to clear the mirror when it was placed incorrectly.

When you get an adapter, simply use a thin flat blade screwdriver to tweak the adjusters (it will be obvious when you look inside the rim of the adapter) to ensure a very snug fit on the lens. Rest is as with any ROM lens.

John Black at www.pebbleplace.com has a great tutorial on using/adjusting chipped adapters. Not much to it.

That's the one sweet thing about Canon DSLRs - that sensor can be used with damn near any glass out there.
 
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fotografz

Well-known member
Peter, an adapter that has the electronic data bus contacts for a brand of camera used is useless and a waste of money IMO. But maybe that's just me. The exception to that is the e-contacts for the Canon cameras which activates the AF confirmation function. Nikon provides AF confirmation without e-contacts for any manual focus lens mounted. As Rob said, there is a debate as to wether the chipped adapters improve focus confirmation. I did buy an expensive Novaflex which promptly fell apart ... expensive junk IMO which I returned in a baggy full of bits and pieces.

Peter, If you do not already have a Canon or Nikon camera, and you simply want the 110/2 for the "snap" you described, may I suggest using the lens on your Leica instead?

I use the Zeiss 110/2FE and 150/2.8FE on the DMR from time to time, and the characteristics of those lenses is nicer on the Leica than on my Canons. I cannot speak to the Nikon since I don't have one ... yet ...LOL.

The Leica is already more precision focusing for a manual lens than either of the AF cameras. If you want the 110/2 to shoot at ISO 1600/3200 and above then the Canon or Nikons are where it's at ... but be forewarned that focusing the 110/2 in light that low is the rarified domain of the Olympic target pistol champion : -)

There my friend, I just saved you $5,500.USD for the camera, and the extra $ for an adapter with e-contacts ... that you can spend on the AF H/C 100/2.2 for the HD Camera ... which will significantly increase your hit ratio at f/2.2

RE: F and FE ... the very latest FE version of this lens has additional baffling for flare control and improved T*coatings. Zeiss is continually improving and tweaking their optics, and one never knows exactly when those take place because they often don't announce it. If you plan to eventually get a 203FE, then go for the FE version.

Hmmmm ... feels like time for some camera porn ... the Zeiss 150/2.8FE and 110/2FE on the Leica DMR ... enjoy : -)
 
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gogopix

Subscriber
I use hassey lenses on my Leica all the time
works great, but why?
the 110/2 is good due to being fast, and the 30mm fisheye is interesting for specials
however, the Leica glass is also not so bad
 

PeterA

Well-known member
Rob thanks for the info. Marc it isnt too late to change yoru mind on the Fe -:) you can throw in an adaptor for me as well.

marc - since you 'ask' I have kept my Canon 1dsmk11 as a back-up for my DMR.
BUT- there is more...LOL
I bought a D3 and a Zeiss 28 and 100 last week - just for the fun of a new toy...
I must say i do like the Nikon handling and high ISO is awesome..and the Zeiss lenses are spectacular..
So I will get an FE with a Nikon adaptor and Leica adaptor to add to my exotica collection..
waiting for Son to get back to me with a price ..but David has kindly offered me one as my back-up strategy if Son changes his mind..

btw mate- the way you photograph your camera gear is pure art..


thanks again all.

PS Victor one day we should compare collections! LOL
 
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robmac

Well-known member
Marc
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You should know better than to post camera porn in this den of weak self-control. Have to love a camera (R8/R9) with THE best ergos I've ever used - and a digital back for same with no AA filter.

Novoflex falling apart - obviously their premium isn't for production quality.

Peter
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You're welcome.

While on a 1 series, a chipped adapter FC is the only way to enable focus confirm and (save the 1Ds3) record EXIF, I would assume on the D3 it would be a simple matter of having the 110 as one of your 'programmed' manual focus lenses on the body in question for exif purposes.

It's a given that Son will give you the Nth detail on the FE generation he's selling, accurately what 'generation' his FE is, but should the Son deal go further, the latest FE has a telltale square-corner baffle surrounding the rear element.
 
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robmac

Well-known member
As an aside - anyone know if H makes a square cap to go over the hood for the 110 for when mounted on camera?
 

Stuart Richardson

Active member
I don't think so, but the standard cap can be put on and taken off without removing the hood...it is a little fiddly, but it gets easier the more you do it.
 
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