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SSD Drives VS 7200 rpm drives

LJL

New member
Sanddisk has a new line of SSDs coming out up to 240 GB ($499 msrp). I read that they are equivalent in speed to a 40,000 rpm spinning disk type drive.

I am going to hold off on drives for my new Mac Pro until I can get these. Likely higher capacities will be forthcoming as well. A striped pair of these would be the bees knees for a boot drive. Then there is the option of using them for data as well. Ultra reliable, supposedly with something like 100 year MTBF.

http://gizmodo.com/5126848/sandisks-g3-ssds-deliver-40000-rpm-speeds-without-breaking-the-bank
Something I am still trying to resolve in some ways. I think our conventional thinking about bigger SSDs probably comes from our HDD carryovers. If there are not spinning platters, nor a faster/slower sector map, why is there a need for really larger SSDs if they are only going to be striped and used as boot drive for the OS and to house applications? Do many folks run with 480GBs of OS an apps? Now, if one is also going to use them as fast data drives too, beyond just the OS, apps and maybe scratch, then I understand bigger is needed. It would seem that if these drives are that fast, a better option may be to mirror them instead of striping them, thus getting the benefit of instant back-up for whatever you were needing in case of a crash. In that case, a lot bigger would be better, if it retains the speeds.

In something like a Mac Pro, where you have some serious internal capacity available, I would thing filling bays with 10k rpm drives would do quite well, and at a lot less cost, plus hold a lot more data. Or striped 1TB 7200rpm drives would go a long way for very fast storage also.

I get the need for bigger SSDs for use in something like notebooks, where storage is limited, but not sure I see all that much benefit in big boxes where you have tons of space and fire-breathing capabilities on other devices that are going to be significantly cheaper. (Sorry, must be my recession frugality/practicality taking over or something right now.:eek:)

LJ
 

Guy Mancuso

Administrator, Instructor
2 SSD results running in Raid 0 MPB 2.93 with 6gb of Ram 15 inch unit BUT i have some cleanup issues still with this new laptop. Have to work on this some more but preliminary results. Oh 2 Intel 80gb XM-25 units

Results 242.46
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.5.6 (9G2133)
Physical RAM 6144 MB
Model MacBookPro5,1
Drive Type Guys Master Hard Drive
CPU Test 197.27
GCD Loop 341.25 17.99 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 166.26 3.95 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 138.08 4.56 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 244.53 42.58 Mops/sec
Thread Test 356.36
Computation 432.71 8.77 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 302.91 13.03 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 190.52
System 229.81
Allocate 295.33 1.08 Malloc/sec
Fill 193.95 9430.13 MB/sec
Copy 221.63 4577.76 MB/sec
Stream 162.71
Copy 152.26 3144.97 MB/sec
Scale 157.78 3259.69 MB/sec
Add 172.40 3672.50 MB/sec
Triad 170.11 3639.11 MB/sec
Quartz Graphics Test 244.39
Line 226.84 15.10 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 292.37 87.29 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 242.82 19.79 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 237.84 6.00 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 232.16 14.52 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 188.89
Spinning Squares 188.89 239.62 frames/sec
User Interface Test 391.46
Elements 391.46 1.80 Krefresh/sec
Disk Test 262.69
Sequential 165.56
Uncached Write 255.90 157.12 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 130.50 73.84 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 91.11 26.66 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 619.42 311.32 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 635.52
Uncached Write 545.02 57.70 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 342.81 109.75 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 1224.63 8.68 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 1378.03 255.70 MB/sec [256K blocks]
 

Guy Mancuso

Administrator, Instructor
I stopped for awhile want to make sure i have all my data on a Drobo before more testing. Had a bad firewire cable and there is a glitch in these new MPB with a screen flicker . I think Apple has a update for the 17 and waiting for one with the 15 inch. I am hooked up to a 30 inch display and seems any program I am in I can get this random flicker , my thoughts are the video card. Also had booting issues with the Firewire and maybe to many USB going on , so I have a powered USB hub now and with the new Firewire cable seem to be booting okay. Luckily I am smart enough to figure out this stuff, feel sorry for new folks that are unsure of themselves dealing with some issues. Plus i have Lloyd , Jack and Bob and if i can't get a answer from those guy's there is no answer. LOL
 
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DougDolde

Guest
I ran X Bench on my 2.2Ghz MacBook Pro (Santa Rosawith 6 gb ram and a dumpy FUJITSU MHW2120BH 120 GB hard drive (stock). Depressing and pathetic numbers echo my frustration trying to use this machine. I ordered a single quad 2.66 Mac Pro (Nehalem) today and 16 GB ram from OWC, just can't take it any longer.

Disk Test 34.80
Sequential 50.63
Uncached Write 50.63 31.09 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 50.58 28.62 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 51.88 15.18 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 57.42 28.86 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 26.03
Uncached Write 9.33 0.99 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 55.37 17.73 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 62.24 0.44 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 81.03 15.54 MB/sec [256K blocks]
 

Guy Mancuso

Administrator, Instructor
Guy if you have the new 15" MBP they will take 8 GB ram.
Yes it seems this maybe true. OWC is just getting these new books in to test so just waiting for results. But on a couple forums it seems it is working. Like to see the numbers on improvement though from 6gb. The 4gb chip is 350 dollars or so. This thing is running pretty darn fast just want to make sure it's cleaned out I migrated over and it may have picked up some old Ilife crap
 
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