There is actually "only" a tech note about the new optional CS5 plugins...
There is actually "only" a tech note about the new optional CS5 plugins...
Interesting that disable scratch compression is still a working plugin. Guess I'll move it over!
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I am running 8gb of ram on a MacBook Pro, how much should I allocate to Photoshop CS5 for maximum performance. I do not need to run other programs when I'm in Photoshop.
Has anyone uninstalled CS4 from there machine after loading CS5. Results, Issues?
No patience . I removed CS4 no ill effects yet
Here's an example of the power of the content-aware fill. The original shot, and the final, produced as a gift for the guys. Notice the cables that run through the guy's hat and arm. Eliminating them required two selections with the lasso tool. Select the area freehand, call up content aware fill and bingo. One selection and fill for each area and done. Could it have been done with the clone tool? Probably. But I'm not sure I would have even attempted it given how squeefy that tool can be. So to some extent, that upgrade alone was worth the price of the upgrade (for me).
Have yet to try this tool.
looks like the arm cables were cropped and I'd like to know how PS figured there was a crease in the top of his hat. looks like some branches between their heads are different?
It's true I cropped a lot off the right side, but there was cables still showed in the upper, right corner. They formed a sort of triangle that came down to the top of the elbow and into the frame about a quarter of an inch.
Different serial numbers? All of the $100 bills in my county are all the same! And they all say Epson on the back in tiny letters....
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Hmmmm... I am wondering what to do. I have one master collection that I share with someone and I have another license to install CS4 extended on 2 machines (2 laptops).
What shall I upgrade too? I don't need the suite to go to CS5 but I do need PS to go there.
I cannot upgrade the photoshop version of the suite to PS CS5 alone but need to upgrade it to at least another suite. I do need PS CS5 on the big MacPro that also carries the suite. To sacrifice another PS CS4 license on that machine seems ridiculous to me but I think it eventually boils down to that
I think it is kind of ridiculous you cannot upgrade components of a suite separately.
FWIW, I've found the best practice with it is to do the main lasso select and fill, then edit any residual artifacts using the content aware healing brush with a soft-ish edge. Works impressively well, even when removing objects from in front of a textured or patterned background...
I think the real trick in this is being pretty accurate in your selection. I have tried a couple things and found the better I am with the lasso tool or magic wand and do a feather of 1 or 2 pixels than the better it works. Forget the videos you have to work a little. They made it look a little too easy on the video's but in the end you still save a boat load of time and effort than trying to clone and airbrush. Also I have been running 64 bit for a long time and have a little program that always boots in 64 bit but I have noticed a very good speed boost. My files are typically 230 meg 16 bit tiff as the base size. I'm also on a much faster laptop as well with the I7 core so i really have gained some speed. IMHO worth the 200 bucks without a doubt. Some real speed increases and some nice functional things in it. As a full time laptop user your looking for all the speed you can get and my files are not small so it is even more important to be pushing the envelope.
here is that little 64 bit program
Oh, and while we're on the topic of selections, the new automatic selection brush is very, very cool too!
Next it should be noted that you do NOT need to boot OSX in 64-bit to run CS5 in 64-bit -- CS5 runs natively in 64-bit mode on both 32 and 64 bit OSX mode. To run CS5 in 32 bit mode (on Mac), you open the package "info" and you'll find an option checkbox for opening CS5 in 32 bit mode. Currently, the main reason to run CS5 in 32 bit mode is most legacy plug-ins won't work in 64 bit mode, but will in 32 bit mode.
CS4 was already 64bit on MS 64 OS, but only Photoshop - the rest is still emulated. However, working with 16 GB Ram on a Win7 server board everything is faster in CS4, especially Bridge. In CS5 it should be even better, unless something went seriously wrong.
So far, CS5 has been pretty buggy for me on Win7, 64x.
I had to re-install 3x before it said it worked. I had to re-install the 32-bit plugins and have to find my actions to re-install these, as expected.
After I load the program, the top drop-down menu is duplicated right underneath-2 rows of the same "file" "image" etc.
If I use the floating menu for Nik, movement duplicates the panel. It then tried to add yet another original program drop-down menu into the floating panel. Again, this is in 32-bit mode.
There have been a number of .dll errors after the install. I also see that, before each install, it asks me to restart, even if I just restarted.
Some of the plug-in menus from Nik don't work right, but I tried them in CS4 after the Win 7 upgrade and they didn't work right there, either.
Sometimes, the program just "unexpectedly quits."
It's odd, but Topaz Adjust seems to be producing more grain than before in the images.
At this point, it's not easy to think this is working well. I have a pending call from tech support in the am. Support on Sat had to be called, as the install couldn't find CS4 to make the upgrade license work.
Finally, I just saw the post that NAPP had a discount. Ouch!
The upgrade has been an all-day deal and still isn't working right.
Has anyone else had so much trouble?
Just tried 64x version. Some of the same issues apply. There are still duplications of panels on moving them and attempts to add another top menu into the panel. The program then just quits.
So far, neither program can run.
Bummer Steve! I can only comment re Mac and Snow Leopard, but so far that combo has been nearly flawless. I wonder if it is an issue with your plug-ins?
None of my plug-ins run unless I launch CS5 in 32-bit mode, and then CS5 slows down on the large files, so I have not spent much time using CS5 in 32-bit mode. FWIW, my current work-around is I leave CS5 booting in 64-bit because it is so much faster with the big files, and keep CS4 installed for the plug-ins when I need them. So far this seems a decent workaround for me.
Did you do a de-install, without deactivating first so your serial number is remembered, but be sure to remove preferences, then a re-install?
There have been a lot of issues related to preference files causing instability during the beta period.
I had a stale preferences issue as well, as hdr merge would fail. Now, after that maneuver, it is fine.
Not to say this is a specific prescription, but there can be some cs4 preferences hanging around that are inherited by cs5 but not compatible.
Tried to do a complete un-install with revo uninstaller, but it doesn't seem to matter. I didn't turn on or install any plug-ins in the 64-bit version, but it crashes anyway (it looks like, as with CS4, there are separate 32 and 64 bit versions installed).
Thankfully, C1 5 pro looks like it works, but I think CS4 and 5 are dead. I'll follow up after I talk to tech support.
I'd be curious as to what Adobe's experience was with 64 bit Win 7 during beta testing. I'm afraid to do any more un-installs or re-installs, as I don't want to deal with Adobe for an hour re: the upgrade license again.
So far, has been a huge waste of 12 hours...
Just for once it's delightful not to be a first adopter.
For my needs CS3 still does a grand job and it'll be some time before I feel the need to jump to CS5
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Jono, three words: Content - Aware - Fill. Then three more: Faster than CS3/4.
I've read all about Content - Aware - Fill. But the way the clone and fill tools work in Aperture means that I'm simply not interested - even in A2 the clone tool was much better than in PS - the A3 tool is splendid - whether it's better than the CS5 content aware fill I don't know - but if I don't need more why bother?
Aperture is singing for me right now - one proof is the moire shots that Tom (mpis) posted of his daughter - Aperture managed in 2 minutes what nobody else seemed to be able to deal with in C1 or PS. It may not be perfect for everything, but the workflow is fast and efficient.
CS5 would add a whole new layer to a workflow which already works . . . .
Mind you, that's what every reactionary old fool says
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At least on the surface, I think I have the installs working.
I spoke to Adobe and it seems at times residual files (as Bob said) and other Adobe products conflict. You have to run clean up scripts to clear out all the Adobe products, then re-install.
I'm going to try to download and install the plugins, but at least the programs appear to be running despite some persistent error messages from the installer.
Jack-do your actions work on CS5?
Thanks for your help, steve
It will be interesting what little extras come in Lightroom 3 that aren't in the Beta
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Adobe Photoshop version CS5 is very important . I like its I was running the CS5 Beta. so more detail given on sharperimagesnow
Yea CS5 needs to get it's plug ins working or I should say third party vendors need to update. I don't have any plugins actually which is weird. I use Indesign a lot but had to keep CS4 on board because printers are not ready for CS5 which is a PITA since i like the new version a lot better
It didn't go as well for me. Viveza 2 installer and Sharpener Pro installer both failed and froze the system, although Color FX was fine. I also tried OnOne FocalPoint 2 and it crashed the system and CS5. I called the developers and both said they aren't really ready for CS5, although were OK with Win 7 64x per se. This was all in an attempt to install into the 32x CS5.
I'm still not fully trusting CS5, as the installer failed to work 3x, but it seems to be running now if I avoid the above plugins.
Viveza 2 is not working for me either despite having deleted duplicate Ariel fonts from Font Book (as they recommend). In a recent conversation with their support department they suggested logging on as a new user with admin privileges. This is not the first time this suggestion has been made to me...had the same problem with ImagePrint 7 which got resolved this way. Apparently there are certain parameters contained in user account which can cause problems. This solution did not work for me with Viveza 2 but the support gal said it had resolved the same issue for many others. Thought I'd pass it along FWIW. BTW, I am having the same problem with Viveza 2 in LR 2.7.