Silver Efex Pro is already great software - v2 looks like it has some very worthwhile improvements. I will definitely be upgrading.
I just saw this as well -- it might be time to finally leave LR b&w conversions!
Any idea when it is supposed to be released officially?
Do you all use the complete Nik workflow? (http://www.niksoftware.com/completec.../usa/entry.php)
Why dont they give a date at least?
There are lots of significant improvements.. I'll be looking for a copy when it comes out.
Any day now.....!
Available for download now I believe
Website appears to be down. Anyone else having trouble with the Nik Software site?
Upgraded to SE2. Some nice features and new presets. This image shot today with an IR converted G1 and Pentax DA 18-135. Processed in LR3.3 and converted to B&W with the SE2 plugin using the "Fine Art + border" preset.
I must be doing something wrong trying to install to LRR 3.3. Version 1 worked great but although the application for SEfx 2.0 shows up in the Nik Software apps folder, editing in LR doesn't work. Neither does Viveza 2.0! In order to process Viveza I am referred to edit in Photoshop 5. Trying to edit in SEfex (the actual command in edit shows Silver Efex 2.0.app) goes through some motions but in the end, nothing happens.
I sent a note to Nik support but they estimate three working days for a response due to the many responses generated by the new software releases.
Any help you can suggest?
Woody, I downloaded Silver Efex Pro 2 asking for both Photoshop5 and LR3.2 versions and the software downloaded, executed and works fine in both programs on my MacBook Pro 10.6.6......Tom.
I did the same. The installer showed both Photoshop and LR and everything works fine in Photoshop. In Lightroom it seems the plug in was not installed but the app was. So when using the edit command the choices are edit in Photoshop or edit in SEfex 2.0 app. Selecting the Sfex app doesn't work. So I guess I will have to wait for the queue at Nik to get shorter so I can get it working.
Well, color me very disappointed. Silver Efex 2 (SE2) crashes Aperture 3.1.1 on my MacBook Pro every time I try to use it. 64-bit mode, 32-bit mode, different images -- always instantly crashes. I've re-installed it, and rebooted, and it still dies. SE1 still works fine (in 32-bit mode, of course).
OK, I solved my problem: I de-installed and re-installed SE2, and that seemed to do the trick.
SE2 feels a lot slower than SE1, but the new options are pretty nice! I'll be playing with it quite a bit, I think.
SEP1 was nice but SEP2 allows more control (useful control):
Finally get some of our Bodie shots in decent B&W:
Just curious, does anyone know of any reviews that show the color before and SEP2 afters? I'm curious what control it gives as I have been doing mine by hand in cs5 which is time consuming.
>does anyone know of any reviews that show the color before and SEP2 afters?
Not sure what you want. You can manipulate the same colors in many, many ways in SEP1/SEP2. Maybe I don't understand.
I was more curious how much latitude it gives, I've never used any SEP before. I did notice that I can download a 15 day demo so I might give that a go when I have a chance.
>I did notice that I can download a 15 day demo so I might give that a go when I have a chance.
I think this is the best way to proceed. Everybody has different requirements.
Ah thank you Ario, this is what I was looking for. I didn't see it when I glanced through the first link!
blog post that shows 40 before/after side-by-side possibilities - one for each of the SEP2 presets.
Also, here's a complete SEP2 tutorial in another blog post.
Hope this helps.
For any others who have had problems installing either Silver Efex Pro 2.0 or Viveza 2 into Lightroom, here is the solution given me by Nik Software Support. This worked and now all is well.
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To manually install one of the Nik Software products after the installer has been run, please do the following:
While Lightroom is still open, click Edit > Preferences OR Lightroom > Preferences.
Click on the "External Edition" tab at the top of preferences (see A.).
Midway down on the right click on the "Choose" button (see C.) and locate the Nik Software application file for your product . Typically it can can be found at either, C:\Program Files\Nik Software\Silver Efex Pro 2 OR Macintosh HD | Applications | Nik Software | Silver Efex Pro 2. For other products, replace Viveza 2 reference with the following below.
Once located, select the program or application file as indicated above and click "Choose".
Set the file format to "TIFF", Color Space to sRGB (or the one of your choice), Bit Depth to 16-bit, Resolution to 240, and Compress to None (see D.).
Under preset click the drop down selector (see B.) and choose, "Save Current Settings as New Preset" from the list (see F.)
Type in the name of the plug-in such as "Silver Efex Pro 2" and click Create.
You many add another plug-in by going back and following steps 6 - 10 again, otherwise close preferences by clicking OK. The plug-in(s) you added should now be accessible.
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I just upgraded to Silver Efex Pro version 2.0. The installation worked smoothly for Photoshop 5 but when I try to edit Llghtroom 3.3 with Silver Efex Pro the old version is active, not 2.0
Could you please help me get the installation correctly
Uh-oh. I've been an enormous fan of Silver Efex Pro and without even doing the trial, I bought the version 2 upgrade and downloaded it last night.
I am so disappointed to be disappointed. Everything installed and launched as it should in PS CS5. But the new interface is barely legible. The typeface used in the preset categories appears so small and thin that it is broken and illegible.
I suppose I could just go with the visual and not pay attention to the name of the category but I much prefer to be able to scroll through the various effects and select them by name.
Anyone else seeing this?
>The typeface used in the preset categories appears so small and thin that it is broken and illegible.
That is true. I got over it though as I like the more control.
There should be a variable width of the preset/history column, just as in Lightroom. Or even better, a menu item for preferences like in almost all Mac software (the interface is very ´un-Mac-like´ and that´s a bad thing).
But, as Uwe says, the controls and the ease of getting results that would take far longer to achieve within Lightroom makes it worth it IMHO.
In my SEP2 review I wrote:
-Histogram (free floating) and Loupe shown at the same time
-Show a border at the histogram to better judge highlights and shadows
-Allow to recall the previous (last used settings). Note: we show a nice solution soon.
-The UI fonts are very hard to read
-That you need to scroll over the sub-sliders to see the values may make the UI look clean but is not really user friendly.
Still a great software.
I don't even use the presets, but I'm sure the font problem is annoying if you do. The preset names read just barely acceptably on my 23" Apple monitor.
One thing I love is they fixed it so the scroll wheel is recognized. That was a huge annoyance in the last version.
I do see the tool tips. There's a lag though and it's not as comfortable or as easy as simply reading a label that's correctly displayed. Why go to all the trouble of making groups of presets and then label them so poorly you have to use a tool tip to decipher them?
As for the presets, it's true I don't use their recipes often but I have made my own that do get used regularly.
I've calmed down a little bit since my first negative impression of the user interface. However, I can't help but hope they make a software fix since as it stands now, the user interface is poorly implemented.
>As for the presets, it's true I don't use their recipes often but I have made my own that do get used regularly.
That is the main reason for presets. Their presets can be used as a starting point.
IF any of you get a chance to check my post on my experience on a W7 machine, thanks. I posted it as a seperate post, it's not pretty...