I posted this on photo.net, but I guess my problem is not with the fact that the noctilux is expensive, its that they are charging such an ungodly amount for a lens that is IDENTICAL to the normal noctilux, only in a fancy box and with a special number. With the other special editions you got something just that -- different from what the regular products get you. Now, everyone went crazy when the Titanium M7 kit went for 10,000 dollars, and that was an M7 made out of titanium, along with a 50mm f/1.4 ASPH made of titanium, some book or something etc, only 50 or so. At least that was unobtainable otherwise, looked different (and cool, frankly), and it weighed less than the normal model. Same thing with the MP3 -- it was far cheaper, it looked special and came with a different type of lens that had a marginally different functionality. Anyway, I sort of understand those, though I would not buy them, because their price premium was based on the fact that the actually WERE different. This Noctilux (the lens alone) is more expensive (3 times as much as the MP3 and lens!), yet the only difference is the serial number and the humidor. I know I shouldn't be offended, but I am. It just strikes me as if they are even insulting the collectors.