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Yes, on the bottom plate it's laser etched; same process Apple uses.
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Ray - you're turning into a grumpy old man, and it doesn't suit you. (I'm afraid I'm beyond redemption )A camera ad going on ad nauseam about metallurgical processes!
Major shareholder almost wanting to do a selfie.
Trying to sell a mediocre product to be seen with..like that unfortunate lady looking through a M camera with the lens hood attached!
Fanboys that cannot but sing its praises..look do not compare this camera with others on the basis of imaging technicals, price etc...
It stands above all..see the poor soul grinding the metal by hand for 45 minutes!
Look at the pedigree. Only the plebs shall be unappreciative of it.
But you, the crime de la creme, those that appreciate the finer things in life will understand.
Handcrafted German engineering ( with a bit of help from Japanese and American designers that use robotics for production ) for you the elite suckers.
Did anyone watch the ' best club in the world ' play Real Madrid in the Champeon's League semi-final.
Know the result? That is the result I come up with when I dot my ' Is ' and cross my ' Ts '
I choose not to be a sucker from those born every minute or tens of years.
YMMV.
Actually after holding the lump of aluminum and then the milled shell and the camera....it is amazing how little of the camera weight is in the aluminum.Solid lump of metal like that? You'd break the rock!
Jono, I consider paying over the odds for a product for which numerous equivalent ( even better products at lesser cost ) to be getting caught up into a marketing hype. One who falls for such a scheme is, to say the least, one who shall part with his/her money purely for the hype. Asking someone not to be ' sucked ' into such enticing ( and oh so boring ) marketing tactics is not an insult.Ray - you're turning into a grumpy old man, and it doesn't suit you. (I'm afraid I'm beyond redemption )
Marketing is a time honoured tradition, and accusing people of being suckers because they don't agree with you is not polite.
Nobody is forced to buy a Leica T, and no wool is being pulled over anybody's eyes. Everybody can try one in a Leica store, and there are thousands of images available to ponder over.
Sure - you don't want one (I'm sticking with my M) but hey, there's no need to insult those that do (is there?)
Better is a relative term in these circumstances Ray - I'd certainly say that the image quality is better than the Fuji (for instance), but that's because I don't like the Fuji greens.Jono, I consider paying over the odds for a product for which numerous equivalent ( even better products at lesser cost ) to be getting caught up into a marketing hype. One who falls for such a scheme is, to say the least, one who shall part with his/her money purely for the hype. Asking someone not to be ' sucked ' into such enticing ( and oh so boring ) marketing tactics is not an insult.
Well, I do disagree here - I think that being grumpy is just an unpleasant symptom of getting old and forgetting that there are other ways of looking at things than our own. I fight it whenever I canBeing grumpy ( the both of us are ) is a part of becoming wise!! And wise people should advise the young huns not to part with their money that easily.
Good is also a relative term - your wife certainly takes excellent photos with her D-lux4 (which probably cost about half as much as a Leica T body and more than twice as much as the identical Panasonic). But in terms of technical image quality they will come nowhere near it.Making images..my old lady is not a photographer, but she can easily make equally good photographs with her D-Lux 4 ( she bought it for the red dot against my advice ). That proves nothing.
Thank you Brad - why didn't I put it like thatRay, go try the T and then give us your opinion. If you're looking for lots and lots of opinions, try other forums.
Brad, do you sport the ' T ' shirt you posted or is that an attempt at an intelligent response.Ray, go try the T and then give us your opinion. If you're looking for lots and lots of opinions, try other forums.
My name is Rayyan. It is clearly indicated on all my posts.Ray, I think we understand you will not be buying the Leica T.
A little restraint would do well. Rather than calling everyone who thinks it's rather nice a 'sucker to a marketing ploy', "I don't think it's worth the money and won't buy one. I wouldn't recommend it either." would have been perfectly sufficient (if you felt you had to say anything at all, really) without disparaging other people's opinions, intentionally or not.Jono, nothing wrong with liking a thing of beauty. But ' beauty ' too is relative
thing.
You ask people not to consider an imaging tool on it's imaging techs, it's sensor, it's weather sealing, it's viewing optics but on others....aesthetics, polished metal, monogram etc..they are certainly important; but are they the reason to purchase a camera.
You ask us not to compare it other cameras, in the same group, on a price/performance ratio. What other criteria? The amount of time it took to polish a metal box without weather sealing?
You ask me to put the imaging technology built into the ' T ' as of secondary importance. You want me to get caught up in a marketing hype of ' beauty ', ' menu simplicity ', lenses that are without image stabilization, no weather proofing, slow..slow, and costing what I could get a complete camera system of equivalent image quality and superbly built.
Just because you do not like Fuji's greens...but I like them. So what?
Asking me not to compare this Leica product with other equivalent products on the market insults my intelligence, if not of others.
The M is unique..a rangefinder. I would not compare it with others..there is no other like it to compare it with.
A 3 year old sensor built in a box polished by hand for 45 minutes at a price point, which to me represents the least value. I ain't a sucker for such a mediocre product at this price point. The ' brand ' in this instance is overused,overhyped,overpriced and undervalued.
This is my humble opinion. Why do you have an issue if I say so?
But the point is whose definition of equivalent or better?Jono, I consider paying over the odds for a product for which numerous equivalent ( even better products at lesser cost ) to be getting caught up into a marketing hype.
For a suitable fee, sure. But not before I test them against one another.Yehh, Godfrey; I think you should buy a "T", then send me your GXR-M, I'll see that it is properly recycled