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Sean Reid Threatening TOP with a Lawsuit
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Vivek
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Robert, I thought 'TOP' meant the Leica company owners!:ROTFL:
Stunts.
Stunts.
GrahamWelland
Subscriber & Workshop Member
TOP seems quite reasonable in the post - the SR lawsuit threat seems a bit of overkill and I would suspect that'll backfire on Sean. I see no reason to question my subscription to ReidReviews though because of it.
I'm sure this ego storm in a tea cup will all fizzle out pretty quickly.
I'm sure this ego storm in a tea cup will all fizzle out pretty quickly.
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FrankSmith
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Perhaps Reid has made so much money from new subscribers wanting to read his M9 review that he thinks he can afford to stuff TOP with a lawsuit.
stephengilbert
Active member
At the risk of Sean suing me for saying this (although I do have an attorney), I think his threatening to sue TOP is as off base as his apparent misunderstanding of the basis for the criticism of the various recent reviews re the M9. People who don't seem to understand that a reviewer's connection with the product reviewed (whether based on an ongoing commercial relationship or on the receipt of "perks") is relevant to his or her review, and is a fair subject for comment, shouldn't make public pronouncements on issues of interest.
I haven't read any libel cases lately, but I seriously doubt that criticism of reviewers, even of their apparent conflicts of interest, made in public forums could possibly form the basis for a successful lawsuit. Reviewers publish their views with the goal of communicating their opinions. Is it Sean's view that criticism of him is out of bounds? Unless someone intentionally lies about them, I don't think reviewers have any legal claim.
I haven't read any libel cases lately, but I seriously doubt that criticism of reviewers, even of their apparent conflicts of interest, made in public forums could possibly form the basis for a successful lawsuit. Reviewers publish their views with the goal of communicating their opinions. Is it Sean's view that criticism of him is out of bounds? Unless someone intentionally lies about them, I don't think reviewers have any legal claim.
btrancho
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Go over to the Rangefinder Forum and read the reaction to this and you'll have to conclude that Sean now has to sue himself for causing a major amount of negative blowback on this. There are very few, if any, posts in support and many say they'll drop or stop consideration of subscriptions because of his threat.
Come on Sean, take a deep breath and calm down.
Come on Sean, take a deep breath and calm down.
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Vivek
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Terry, now it (started by the party himself, I believe) is at 94th post..
Thanks for pointing that out.
I think what I initially thought was correct.
Stunt. :ROTFL:
First,
Let me say that I respect Sean's reviews...they are well written and thought out. Not many places have as well reasoned reviews ... as an example his deferring the S2 review until September as his exposure to the camera was not adequate to evaluate all that he normally considers.
My bailiwick in this instance has more to do with the continual coarsening of interchange on the web...it seems to be an ever ending spiral downwards. Of course that is why many of us seek shelter here. Why is it necessary to threaten or actually undertake legal redress when the other party has lost a bit of their public standing already.
I was unaware of a major trespass on the part of MJ from TOP...however his apology seemed genuine and really leaves RR with a quandary. Largess in accepting the apology engenders a lot of public favor...fractiously seeking redress may not.
Personally, I am so tired of the litigious culture that has evolved in our present social and political climate that I tend to regard this as a ominous blot on all those involved.
Let me apologize for the length of this rant in advance.
Bob
Let me say that I respect Sean's reviews...they are well written and thought out. Not many places have as well reasoned reviews ... as an example his deferring the S2 review until September as his exposure to the camera was not adequate to evaluate all that he normally considers.
My bailiwick in this instance has more to do with the continual coarsening of interchange on the web...it seems to be an ever ending spiral downwards. Of course that is why many of us seek shelter here. Why is it necessary to threaten or actually undertake legal redress when the other party has lost a bit of their public standing already.
I was unaware of a major trespass on the part of MJ from TOP...however his apology seemed genuine and really leaves RR with a quandary. Largess in accepting the apology engenders a lot of public favor...fractiously seeking redress may not.
Personally, I am so tired of the litigious culture that has evolved in our present social and political climate that I tend to regard this as a ominous blot on all those involved.
Let me apologize for the length of this rant in advance.
Bob
Some of us don't hang out at LUF...
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ddk
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Huh, what did I miss?
Personally I was not sure we needed to close this as our group is very civil, but since it could go wrong in a hurry we've agreed it's probably best to close it. For those that want to follow the controversy (or absurdity), here is the link to the LUF thread: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/98269-sour-grapes-duo.html
Cheers,
Cheers,
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