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M8 B&W
- Thread starter irakly
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roberth
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and how was this one managed?
Peter Klein
New member
This looks a lot like the results we used to get when pushing Tri-X to 1600 and higher in the 1970s. There is a difference, however--something a bit more uniform in the "grain" and a bit more tonality in the mid-tones. It's one more example of the M8's "film-like" qualities at high ISO.
Does the tic-tac-toe game suggest that "nobody wins?"
--Peter
Does the tic-tac-toe game suggest that "nobody wins?"
--Peter
I agree Irakly, even to the use of 640 and 1250. Moreover, I find the M8 B&W the closest digital option to traditional B&W emulsions available. I think (and it's only a theory) that the IR "leak" makes the M8 sensor closer to the spectral response of traditional film. And FTR I shoot it all the time without the added IR-cut filters for this reason.
My .02 only,
My .02 only,
irakly
New member
i used to push agfa apx 400 two stops and print on graded contrasty paper. to get even more dramatic results i would make a kodak technical pan negative dupe from an agfa scala transparency. it is just so much easier nowThis looks a lot like the results we used to get when pushing Tri-X to 1600 and higher in the 1970s. There is a difference, however--something a bit more uniform in the "grain" and a bit more tonality in the mid-tones. It's one more example of the M8's "film-like" qualities at high ISO.
Does the tic-tac-toe game suggest that "nobody wins?"
--Peter
irakly
New member
maybe it was a good thing that they kicked me out of an art school when i was nine. otherwise i would know how to do this with charcoal, but not with a camera
irakly
New member
i absolutely do. i used to have this lovely russian medium format rangefinder "iskra" that shot 6x6. i want a digital one like that!
irakly
New member
tollie, this one seems to have a little to much fill. you can see that in grainy patches in the hair and on a shoulder of a man behind the bride. i think, if you decrease the amount of fill, the picture will look sharper too. now it is a bit hard to look at because of this slight sense of motion blur.
Mark Gowin
Member
I really like effect you have demonstrated Irakly. However, after trying it on a few of my images i couldn't get anything as good as your example. I suspect I don't have good images to start with. Would you care to show a "before" example of the photo you posted to give us an idea of a type of photo which is a good starting point?
irakly
New member
Mark, any normally exposed photo shot at ISO640-1250 is a good starting point. All you have to do is boost contrast to the maximum and then adjust black-fill-exposure.
I am writing from a laptop, no raw files here.
I guess, I have to include a topic "hardware specific lightroom techniques" in one of my courses or workshops
I am writing from a laptop, no raw files here.
I guess, I have to include a topic "hardware specific lightroom techniques" in one of my courses or workshops
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roberth
Guest
magnificent technique and I must try this myslef as well.
gogopix
Subscriber
Images as this always get me to try 'variations on a theme' no right way. whether it is music, or art (Rheins catherdrale)Mark, any normally exposed photo shot at ISO640-1250 is a good starting point. All you have to do is boost contrast to the maximum and then adjust black-fill-exposure.
I am writing from a laptop, no raw files here.
I guess, I have to include a topic "hardware specific lightroom techniques" in one of my courses or workshops
or photography.
It would be interesting to try, each figure in mirror, other out, both in, both out that with one or both in both places.
Mirror is a great way to play with image ambiguity.
also clothing, on off etc, though that is harder.
very good shot. Pls take nthe right way, but I think one of the variations might produce a great shot.
(but then again you wouldnt post the BEST here! Not after Guy's or someone talking about image theft.)
regards
Victor
irakly
New member
much better. now increase clarity to about 50% (if you are in LR1.x) and play with sharpness sliders (mainly radius and detail holding the amount at 25 or below). also see what happens if you decrease recovery to about 50% and increase contrast if it is not at 100% already.
irakly
New member
i don't care about image theft. what can one do with a 72dpi 600x900 image? make a crappy unsigned 8x12" print? be my guest people who steal images do not buy them anyway. if a photo is stolen for commercial web use, digimark tracks my images on the web and sends by-weekly updates. when my lawyer hears about another stolen photo, his eyes light up :ROTFL:
this particular image just was nominated for a "2007 photographer of the year" award and is for sale in one of the largest photo galleries in Moscow. four copies have already been sold, and one print is on a wall in a living room of a deputy of minister of culture of portugal
people who steal images do not buy them anyway. if a photo is stolen for commercial web use, digimark tracks my images on the web and sends by-weekly updates. when my lawyer hears about another stolen photo, his eyes light up :ROTFL:this particular image just was nominated for a "2007 photographer of the year" award and is for sale in one of the largest photo galleries in Moscow. four copies have already been sold, and one print is on a wall in a living room of a deputy of minister of culture of portugal