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    Quote Originally Posted by ceh View Post

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    S2,Summarit-S,70/2.5
    Hi Ceh,
    is this an older image or are you back in the S-System? great image!
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    Can anyone confirm if this flash, mecablitz 64 AF-1 digital, will work on all settings with the S-006?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paratom View Post
    Hi Ceh,
    is this an older image or are you back in the S-System? great image!
    Hi Tom,
    thanks.
    It's an old image.
    I don't have S2 camera anymore, sometimes I have an idea to return to
    that system, however.
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    A test shot taken this afternoon with my new (to me) 120/2.5 CS, courtesy of Jean-Michel Clajot, a photographer in Brussels. A (cropped) close up of one of the Gargoyles at our home, dripping after the early rain.

    S(006) 120 CS

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    Ok, so the camera arrived. I'm charging the battery, then updating the firmware. Oddly enough I was told the camera was brand new from Leica NJ, but it doesn't have the latest firmware installed. Is that odd? Also the top portion of the white warranty card has been pulled off.

    Looks good, looks like new (which it's suppose to be).

    Sticker on the lens says not to mount the lens unless you've updated the warranty. So haven't mounted the lens yet.

    EXCITED.

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    Re: S Is For Show Us Your S2 Shots

    It is not odd for a camera not to have the latest firmware. They will be producing the camera in batches and it depends on the production run. Hardware tends to run ahead of firmware updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    Ok, so the camera arrived. I'm charging the battery, then updating the firmware. Oddly enough I was told the camera was brand new from Leica NJ, but it doesn't have the latest firmware installed. Is that odd? Also the top portion of the white warranty card has been pulled off.

    Looks good, looks like new (which it's suppose to be).

    Sticker on the lens says not to mount the lens unless you've updated the warranty. So haven't mounted the lens yet.

    EXCITED.
    OK, lets see some snaps

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    Camera was DEAD on Arrival.. Well sort of.

    So I charged the battery, then installed the latest firmware and the lens said to install the firmware before mounting. So I installed the firmware on the camera and turned it back on with the lens installed.. It made a whirling noise and It said firmware available for the lens. So I turned it off and turned it on again and installed the lens firmware.

    The whole time there's a stain mark on the inside of the LCD screen which bothered me.. But I was going to ignore it.

    Once firmware for the lens was installed I restarted the camera, it made the whirl noise again and I went to shoot and it wouldn't focus the lens. It was make a weird loud noise but no focusing the lens wouldn't move at all.

    So I tried all the different focus settings and nothing. So now I'm about go to go the Leica store in LA and have them swap it out.

    I'm going to tell them I want direct replacements and I don't want it to count towards my 3y warranty first 6m replacement camera. Incase this **** happens again.

    Not off to a good start.
    Wish me luck....

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    Sorry to hear this, the whirling sound may be related to this issue:

    ŧ Topic: Leica 120 mm CS: AF not working

    I hope everything will work out fine for you ASAP.

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    Hi,

    So basically the lens was DOA. The camera is fine. After a bit of fussing on my end. I was lent a lens to use for the week while this lens gets sent back to NJ and a new lens gets sent to me.

    So I'll have a new 70mm very shortly. In the meantime I spent much of my day running errands since I was in the area (because of the loaner lens). So no photos

    Will have a bit more time this week. So far the AF is faster then I remember and the camera seems smaller/lighter then I remember as well. All good things. ISO seems worse from the screen from the one or two shots I took. I hope it cleans up better then it looks in the preview

    EDIT: BTW peterv, that's exactly what happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    Hi,

    So basically the lens was DOA. The camera is fine. After a bit of fussing on my end. I was lent a lens to use for the week while this lens gets sent back to NJ and a new lens gets sent to me.

    So I'll have a new 70mm very shortly. In the meantime I spent much of my day running errands since I was in the area (because of the loaner lens). So no photos

    Will have a bit more time this week. So far the AF is faster then I remember and the camera seems smaller/lighter then I remember as well. All good things. ISO seems worse from the screen from the one or two shots I took. I hope it cleans up better then it looks in the preview

    EDIT: BTW peterv, that's exactly what happened.
    Not a good start but still I am sure you wont regret your choice.
    Also in my experience in Germany S-service is handled top priority - so usually no long times waiting.

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    100Apo snapshot...
    L1008497 by paratom511, on Flickr
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    Re: S Is For Show Us Your S2 Shots

    My CS120 just succumbed to the same issue. Whirling noises, no AF. Then it does it every time I mount the lens. Had to remove the battery to stop it.

    Went bad of right in the middle of a studio shoot with an expensive model ... Grrrrr.

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    Well, I hope Leica fixes the issue FOC. I'd hate for them to blame impact damage or some other ridiculous crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    My CS120 just succumbed to the same issue. Whirling noises, no AF. Then it does it every time I mount the lens. Had to remove the battery to stop it.

    Went bad of right in the middle of a studio shoot with an expensive model ... Grrrrr.

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    I had the same issue with non-CS 120 and 35/2.5 in November 2014 and wrote about it on redotforum including my video with 120/2.5 but didnīt have time to send it to Solms yet Hope Iīll do that soon. For you as a professional photographer they can provide another piece of 120/2.5 while the faulty one will be repaired.
    My lenses are out of warranty so I hope it wonīt cost too much as itīs not rare problem of one lens but itīs almost a manufacture defect which affect most of 120īs
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    I hope they fix the issue. Nobody should have to deal with that, especially not "pro" gear users.

    Some random images (double post on FM), these were JPG files with slight contrast adjustments (don't like how flat the S006 files are). I shot DNG also, and will get around to playing with those files later:




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    PROBLEM... I took about 500 frames so far, and out of 500 frames 3-4 of them turned out like this... Memory card problem, or camera problem?


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    Another trial run with the S006 + 70mm @ f/2.5
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    Re: S Is For Show Us Your S2 Shots

    I have never seen anything like that in three years with two S2 bodies and one S body...my first bet would be the memory card. Have you asked your dealer or Leica? Have you tried a different card? What kind of card is it?
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    I had a sensor crash on my S2 a few months ago. It looked like this (more magenta).
    The main difference (if I understood you well) is that it suddenly happened and never disappeared until Leica installed a new sensor (for free).
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    No basically I shot for 2 hours. It happened twice in the first 15 minutes and then twice at the one hour mark. Then didn't happen again. Same area of the frame, but varying degrees of that green.

    I'm guessing it's memory card related. I have the newest Sandisk SD cards 32gb. Shooting raw + jpg. I also have the CF cards in 64gb but I didn't have them in my camera at the time, because I left my CF card reader in Singapore :P

    Will send the files off to Leica, see what they have to say. After my lens incident, I'm not impressed. **** happens, so let's hope it's isolated.

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    aDam007: I have S2 1.5 years and it appeared almost the same about 2-3 times mostly shooting directly against the sun. I donīt know if it can be caused by a memory card, Iīam using 32GB Transcend UDMA7 (400x). Itīll be interesting what they tell you at Leica, let us know.
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    San Marco, Venice, Italy.

    Leica S (006), 24mm & 120mm.

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    Rolo - Nice shots. Love the first one!

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    The blue image looks far different then the problem I'm facing. Like aCIDfire mentioned, it only happened when I was shooting into the sun.

    Weird. Will see what Leica says. But I don't want to change out my camera for something that may not happen again. I'd rather keep the 6month NEW swap for a serious issue (if one develops).

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    i had a problem like this with my hassi h4-50 and it was the ccd.

    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    PROBLEM... I took about 500 frames so far, and out of 500 frames 3-4 of them turned out like this... Memory card problem, or camera problem?


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    Some S2 Shots
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    msadat - I emailed Leica.. The response was weird. Basically "your sensor is broken, please give me your address" and that was it. Weird thing is.. It happened on 4-5 images out of the 800 I've shot so far. I'd rather hold onto it, incase there is a bigger problem. I don't want them to send me a complementary new camera and have it be all sorts of worse. Unless of course they wanna send me a S-007

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    you r in la, so u can send it to leica usa and let them check it out. it could be the sensor the the pcb board (motherboard).

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    Hi guys,

    What flashes work with the S-006?
    I know the SF-58 does. But do any of the other Metz flashes work? I only ask because a lot of companies post that they work (metz, nissan) but when I tried them on my M240, I could only do manual mode. So I don't wanna buy a flash for the S-006 and have it only work in manual mode (even though I mainly shoot my Canons in manual mode, I still like the option of using TTL).

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    Re: S Is For Show Us Your S2 Shots

    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    Hi guys,

    What flashes work with the S-006?
    I know the SF-58 does. But do any of the other Metz flashes work? I only ask because a lot of companies post that they work (metz, nissan) but when I tried them on my M240, I could only do manual mode. So I don't wanna buy a flash for the S-006 and have it only work in manual mode (even though I mainly shoot my Canons in manual mode, I still like the option of using TTL).
    For TTL the SF58 is it as far as I know. It has to be set to HSS to work.

    If you have CS lenses, you should get some strobe kit ... the S is an amazing camera to work with strobes.

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    Hi Marc,

    Thanks for the info. I actually have a Profoto B1 setup. I tried to get the Canon trigger to work with the S and the M, but it wouldn't. It's weird, as I don't expect TTL, but I at least expect the system to trigger the flashes..

    I think I'm going to have to invest in basic PWs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    Hi Marc,

    Thanks for the info. I actually have a Profoto B1 setup. I tried to get the Canon trigger to work with the S and the M, but it wouldn't. It's weird, as I don't expect TTL, but I at least expect the system to trigger the flashes..

    I think I'm going to have to invest in basic PWs.
    Profotos standard air trigger wil trigger the B1's or any other profoto strobe,I use it with my S..

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    Re: S Is For Show Us Your S2 Shots

    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    Hi Marc,

    Thanks for the info. I actually have a Profoto B1 setup. I tried to get the Canon trigger to work with the S and the M, but it wouldn't. It's weird, as I don't expect TTL, but I at least expect the system to trigger the flashes..

    I think I'm going to have to invest in basic PWs.
    That is weird. I use a B1, D1 AIRs, and an Acute 600B AIR Lithium battery pack with Profoto AIR Remote Transceivers and AIR Sync on my previous S2 and current S(006) all the time.

    This is the first that I've heard that the Canon TTL version of AIR radio won't work as a transmitter on cameras other than Canon. I'd double check that with Profoto before abandoning the idea. Perhaps you have something set wrong on the radio unit, or the Channels or Group settings aren't matching?

    Even if the Canon AIR unit won't work (which I still doubt), rather than PWs, I'd just get an AIR Remote Transceiver to use on your Leica S.

    I sometimes shoot the S camera using up to 5+ Profoto AIR lights in studio ... with some heads up high on boom arms or buried in soft-boxes ... I have all of them on the same channel and use a different group letter so I can control each light independantly right from the camera. Oh, and if you use Leica CS lenses, the Profoto AIR will sync up to 1/1000 when set to speed mode ... PWs will not.

    Hope this helps,

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    Might be my trigger.. Works fine with my Canon in all modes TTL, Manual, etc. I'll try again, maybe the Leica hotshoe size and the trigger size don't allow the middle pin to line up properly. Whereas maybe the AIR Remote Transceiver is more simplistic so it is able to line up.. Or maybe I just didn't push the thing in enough :?

    Just checked out the AIR Remote Transceiver, sounds like a plan to me.

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    Re: S Is For Show Us Your S2 Shots

    One more tripod question, since I'm about to pull the trigger. If anyone has experience with the below two options..

    TVC-23 + BH-40
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    TVC-33 + BH-55

    My thoughts initially were TVC-23 would be a slight bit more practical for travelling around and shooting. But after RBV's endorsement of the TQV-14 I'm thinking of getting it and a BH-30 for times when I wanna travel and shoot the S w/tripod.
    And buying either of the above sets, and using them for on location local work, studio work, and anywhere other then airplane trips where i would bring the TQV-14.

    Thoughts on the above two tripods, is the 23 and bh-40 enough? Will the 33+55 be better, noticeably?

    Thanks!

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    Also, when shooting into the sun with the 70, do you notice pretty bad flare?
    Similar to the flare seen in the "defective sensor" shot, but worse.

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    I have both, and the TVC-33 and BH-55 are noticeably better for the S2. The S2 is really demanding on equipment. The 23 and bh-40 are fine...they are stable, but if you are going to be using just one tripod, the 33 is much more robust. If you have to lug it long distances, then perhaps the 23 is a better choice, but if you can put it in a car and pull it out when needed, then the 33 is a better bet.

    And no, I don't notice bad flare with the 70mm, but it is generally worse with a lot of lenses if you have the sun just outside the frame and are using either filters or not using the hood. The 70mm lenses front element is a flat plane of glass that is more like a protection filter, so adding another clear glass filter on top is not needed and detrimental to the quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    Also, when shooting into the sun with the 70, do you notice pretty bad flare?
    Similar to the flare seen in the "defective sensor" shot, but worse.
    I've never had flare with my 70mm either, so far.

    BTW, I presume you have the RRS L-plate for the S in your sights ? So useful. IMO. The RRS extension plate at full length takes you very near to the Nodal Point on most lenses.

    I'm using Gitzo tripods with RRS heads at the moment, but seriously considering the 33. I carry a Leica Table-top tripod, fitted with the mini-RRS ball, almost everywhere.

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    I bought a filter from BHphoto (B+W 007 nano), as I was told at the Leica store that turn around time for a damaged front element on the 70s is at least 4 weeks. I was also told that it's REALLY expensive to fix.

    I've tested the lens on tripod with and without filter, both in normal situations and backlit situations, and I don't seem to notice a difference. Either way the lens flares the same. If you look at my above shots on this page, you'll see the flare.. It's really quite typical in most of my shots (most of the time I shoot backlit subjects though). Notice this happens a bit with my (solms-fixed) 50APO, but happens less if not at all with most my other M lenses. Just thought the flare control would be better with these lenses. Zeiss can do it, why can't Leica?!

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    Also, I've been thinking, it makes sense for me to do the TVC-33 + BH-55 and TQC-14 + BH-30 for shorter trips.

    Rolo - Yes I have the L-plate. Take a look at my shots above, do they seem typical in the flare department?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    Also, I've been thinking, it makes sense for me to do the TVC-33 + BH-55 and TQC-14 + BH-30 for shorter trips.

    Rolo - Yes I have the L-plate. Take a look at my shots above, do they seem typical in the flare department?
    I also have this combo and it works well,but consider a BH-40 on the TQC-14..it adds little extra weight and adds the extra stability.

    If you think you may need extra height think about the 33L.. its not much heavier but a fair bit taller.

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    Order the multipurpose plate as well...I generally use that as the L plate is a lot bigger and bulkier. I generally only put it on when I will specifically shooting in portrait...more often in a studio. Otherwise I prefer the smaller size and weight of the small plate. If you screw it in hard enough, it is still very stable on the camera.
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    Rolo - Take a look at my shots above, do they seem typical in the flare department?
    I can't give a qualified opinion on this. I've only one lens that flares like a pig, a 90mm Tele-Elmarit. The S and Hasselblad V lenses that I use on my S just don't flare in the work I do, which is different to that which you're pursuing.

    I don't believe that your experience with the S is typical and you shouldn't be in a position where you might be questioning whether something is working or not. In my experience of dealing with Leica, I'm confident that they would be of the same opinion. If anything needs fixing, or replacing they just do it. The S is great and so are Leica.

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    All great tips!

    RVB - does the BH-40 stick out to far on the TQC-14? I'll have to look it up, see if I can find images of that combo.

    Stuart - I bought a multipurpose plate for my M240, since I didn't like the dedicated plate (especially since I rarely if ever use the M240 on a tripod). I'd also like to get a single plate for the S-006 as you're right, the L-bracket sometimes isn't necessary. Especially when you need quick on and off tripod shots. Which plate gives the best fit BTW?


    So anyone else have a take on the filter? Should I return it? I don't really see a problem with it, but maybe I haven't encountered all situations. I wouldn't care if the turn around time on fixing the front built in filter on the 70s was like 1-3 days. I just don't like the idea that it's like 4 weeks+ if I crack/scratch the glass.
    I use filters on certain M lenses. Hood design is what determines if I use filters or not, to be honest. And again unless I'm missing something, it doesn't seem to play a role in degrading image quality.

    Never used filters on Canon lenses BTW, as the price and repair times made filters unnecessary. And I've only had two incidents. Both with the coatings, and never bothered fixing them since it didn't affect image quality that I could tell. 10+ years of Canon use, before selling the system for Nikon 2y, then selling Nikon for Sony 1y. Then back to Canon lenses and no filters

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    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    All great tips!

    RVB - does the BH-40 stick out to far on the TQC-14? I'll have to look it up, see if I can find images of that combo.

    Stuart - I bought a multipurpose plate for my M240, since I didn't like the dedicated plate (especially since I rarely if ever use the M240 on a tripod). I'd also like to get a single plate for the S-006 as you're right, the L-bracket sometimes isn't necessary. Especially when you need quick on and off tripod shots. Which plate gives the best fit BTW?


    So anyone else have a take on the filter? Should I return it? I don't really see a problem with it, but maybe I haven't encountered all situations. I wouldn't care if the turn around time on fixing the front built in filter on the 70s was like 1-3 days. I just don't like the idea that it's like 4 weeks+ if I crack/scratch the glass.
    I use filters on certain M lenses. Hood design is what determines if I use filters or not, to be honest. And again unless I'm missing something, it doesn't seem to play a role in degrading image quality.

    Never used filters on Canon lenses BTW, as the price and repair times made filters unnecessary. And I've only had two incidents. Both with the coatings, and never bothered fixing them since it didn't affect image quality that I could tell. 10+ years of Canon use, before selling the system for Nikon 2y, then selling Nikon for Sony 1y. Then back to Canon lenses and no filters
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    Mine still fits in the smallest carry case,I believe it adds about 100grams to the weight.

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    RVB - Thanks!

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    I am using the BP-CS. I really like RRS's tripods and heads, but I think they need to pare down their plates a bit...especially since most people will want to keep a plate on all the time. I asked them if they would make a dedicated non-L plate for the S cameras, and they basically said no. That's fine, but how many photographers really want to add a big hunk of aluminum permanently sticking out the side of their extremely expensive ergonomically refined camera? I know I don't. For some cameras the plates work really well (it is great on the Mamiya 7II for example), but I think RRS designs the plates thinking that everyone wants to have it optimally placed with a 600mm lens on a panorama rail, while most photographers just want a quick way to get it on and off a tripod while still being stable with normal lenses. I find the BP-CS is more than enough for all normal field use. Only if I am shooting tons of verticals or if I am shooting on a studio stand with the camera pointed at the floor or something, will I grab the L plate.

    Regarding filters...well, I would say make sure you have a decent insurance policy and use the hoods. The hoods are big and sturdy and will keep most things away from the lens. I am sure that if you crash something into the front element it will not be solved over night, but I think it is such an unlikely scenario that something will get past the hood, impact the filter and then not do any damage to the lens behind it. For me at least, it is certainly not worth the extra flare and secondary reflections. Everyone has their own threshold though.
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    Stuart - I rarely if ever use the hood when it's not built in. But I guess I should start making a habit of it. Especially because I'm getting some pretty bad flare from the lens.

    I'm glad you all endorse RRS. And yes, I also asked them if they plan on making a S-plate that's not L design. And they told me no as well.

    I'm going to look into the BP-CS now.

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