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    My image problems can be seen a few pages back. They're not similar to your problem. Your problem seems to be a different issue then mine.

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    Re: S Is For Show Us Your S2 Shots

    It could be your card. Try a new card and see if it continues.

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    Thanks Will,
    Will try other cards.
    On that note, has anyone had any issues with the camera detecting a CF or an SD card ? Whenever I insert one, it says card not detected. I then take it out, format it in the computer (FAT32 / MacOSX Extended journalled ) and re-insert, then the camera "sees it".

    Anyone else have any experience or explanation on this?

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    Nope I've not experienced this.

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    Just thought I should show off some iso 800 (and one iso1600) shots... for those of little faith.







    this one's iso 1600.




    all with the 70 cs.
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    So I'm having the same problem with my sensor that I did with the camera I sent in for a replacement.

    This is the second camera that has had the same issue, so I'm starting to see a trend here. I'm half tempted to keep it a few months and see if the issue gets worse or not, before sending this one in.

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    Hey Adam, if the issue happening again is the one you described in this post:
    http://www.getdpi.com/forum/622733-post1967.html

    Did yo rever get a real response from Leica about the diagnose other then "broken CCD" ?

    This looks awfully much like the "green flare" digital M users described in the early times of the M8 I believe.
    The culprit back then was a very strong light source (sun, pointed strong spotlight, car headlights), which just at the right angle would hit the very edge of the CCD and therefore cause this green flare phenomenon.

    Back then it was diagnosed as a rare (and repeatable) issue nothing to do with a defect of the camera, but rather a design issue which allowed this rare instance of "sensor over load" when really strong light is hitting just at the right angle the edge of the sensor.

    I really hope it is just that and not a defective camera. I personally have never seen this before though on any S (only have had two loaners and my own S2 so far though).

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    Quote Originally Posted by satybhat View Post
    Just thought I should show off some iso 800 (and one iso1600) shots... for those of little faith.
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    all with the 70 cs.
    Great shots which prove again why I love the S-System.
    It shows the things how they are (or how I see them), some things look even more pretty on S-Images than in reality
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    menos - Yes, it's the same as pictured. Funny you mention that. As I asked Leica if it was in fact just some type of sensor overload from flare. They responded that it was circuitry connected to the sensor that was the issue and they would replace my camera for me. Nothing more.. Then I had loads of problems with Leica N.J.
    In the end though, I got a new camera, and the same issue is happening all over. Two out of two now, not off to a good start

    Anyway, I'm more incline to believe it's from flare as you're describing, as that was my initial thought when this happened. The problem is, I shoot into the sun ALOT. So I could potentially run into this problem every time I'm out shooting.

    I'm going to give it a little while, and then I'll talk to Leica again if the problem happens more frequently.

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    Adam, please don't take my hunch as a fact - it just looks so absolutely very similar of what we got back a few years when this happened with the Leica M8 and M9.
    If this would happen to me with my S2, my very first reaction when seeing such a shot on the LCD would be to repeat the shot, taking care of the positioning of the strong light source (just turn your position a fraction of an angle).

    Here is something I could find about the "green stripe problem" with the M8/9 cameras:
    Leica M9 Review, Tests, Comparisons
    specifically this photo shows the phenomenon, caused by a strong light source hitting the edge of the sensor in just the right angle to overload the photocells in the sensor half next to the light source:


    You will find some technical info, written up by Mark here on LUF:
    green blob summary - Leica User Forum

    Nevertheless, I would reproduce the issue, save DNG files and get in touch with a technical specialist of the S cameras in WETZLAR/ Germany.
    I am sure this is the very best source of getting a confirmation whether this is behavior to be expected or indeed a camera defect related issue.

    Good Leica NJ supplied a new camera (the most important for you to keep working). I am a bit surprised though by the lack of detailed information, helping you to be assured of the cause of the issue.

    Good luck, and above all enjoy the S system - it's a great system even though you are up to a rocky start.

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    Thanks for the additional info.. I'll read up on the issue!
    Looks to be similar/the same problem.

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    S-006 + 70 Summarit-S
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    Adam - it's always possible something is amiss with your camera, but I don't think so. You're shooting with extreme backlighting. CCD aimed at sun w/ wide open lens = saturated sensor and really bad things happen. It's like a domino effect, the light fills each well and whole squares / rectangles can get funky. Also, the S' CCD sensor has centerfold - usually not visible but with moderate editing it can become visible in blue skies.

    You're bumping ISO sometimes too, thus making the sensor more susceptible. If the lens is stopped down to F8 or F11, that usually reigns it in. I've been through the Phase One P25, P30+, P65+ and Leica M8, M9, S2 and 006. They all do it. CMOS does much better in this area. First time I saw this with the P25 and M8, I freaked out. Now, I just stop-down the lens or try to find a way to block direct sun.

    I'm offering this feedback in hopes that you can enjoy camera instead of wondering if it's about to die. If you're seeing this only when shooting into or towards the sun at wide apertures, then everything is probably technically okay. This GetDPI thread has some technical info -

    http://www.getdpi.com/forum/medium-f...miya-dm22.html

    Bob (our Moderator) commented about this before too - but that was around 2010, and digging up that thread would awhile.

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    John - Thanks for the tips. Yeah, I've noticed it happens in the conditions you've mentioned. You and menos are probably right, I'll take your advice and not worry so much about it.
    I'm also not one to use a hood, so that might be a problem
    If it gets worse and more frequent, I'll talk to Leica. For now, I'll continue to shoot and not stress.

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    the red dot
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    aDam007: Your portraits are stunning! Keep on posting

    Here is one from last spring..



    Leica S2 + Leica APO-TELE-ELMAR-S 180/3.5 @ f/3.5
    Leica S2 | S-35,70,120,180 | Hasselblad HC 100/2.2 | Pentax 67 M* 300/4 + 1.4 TC| Mamiya C 55/2.8 N, 80/2.8 N, A 120/4, 150/2.8 D | Sony A7r II + various lenses
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    aCIDfire - Thank you, and the way the light catches those leaves! How do you like the 180mm for portraits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aDam007 View Post
    aCIDfire - Thank you, and the way the light catches those leaves! How do you like the 180mm for portraits?
    Its very nice lens, super sharp wide open with good object separation for short or mid distances. Here are few portraits of me and my family at f/3.5 od f/4:







    Leica S2 | S-35,70,120,180 | Hasselblad HC 100/2.2 | Pentax 67 M* 300/4 + 1.4 TC| Mamiya C 55/2.8 N, 80/2.8 N, A 120/4, 150/2.8 D | Sony A7r II + various lenses
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    keep smiling



    Leica S2 + S 70/2.5 @ f/2.5
    Leica S2 | S-35,70,120,180 | Hasselblad HC 100/2.2 | Pentax 67 M* 300/4 + 1.4 TC| Mamiya C 55/2.8 N, 80/2.8 N, A 120/4, 150/2.8 D | Sony A7r II + various lenses
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    World Cup Winner....

    Mike Tindall, the last member of the victorious English 2003 Rugby World Cup winning side to hang up his boots He played for Gloucester for many years until last year, hence the "Glawsfamily" quote on the frame. Now married to the Queen's granddaughter, Zara Phillips. There were rumours that he had been discretely asked to have his nose straightened in time for his Royal Wedding. He didn't.

    This was shot last thursday, as part of my long term project "In the Frame", which has now been running for over 4 years with over 100 famous people captured in this manner.

    S(006) 70/2.5S
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    I like the 180, looks good. The crop is a bit tight for my needs, but nice shots with it!
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    Colours of my world...


    Leica S2 + S-70/2.5 @ f/2.8
    Leica S2 | S-35,70,120,180 | Hasselblad HC 100/2.2 | Pentax 67 M* 300/4 + 1.4 TC| Mamiya C 55/2.8 N, 80/2.8 N, A 120/4, 150/2.8 D | Sony A7r II + various lenses
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    S+100 Summicron
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    My Easter Treats - Truffles from Fortnum & Mason, the Queen's Grocers

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    Spring sunset..



    Leica S2 + APO-Macro-Summarit-S 120/2.5
    Leica S2 | S-35,70,120,180 | Hasselblad HC 100/2.2 | Pentax 67 M* 300/4 + 1.4 TC| Mamiya C 55/2.8 N, 80/2.8 N, A 120/4, 150/2.8 D | Sony A7r II + various lenses
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    Great images guys!
    Just got back from Japan, will be posting some images soon.. I hope.
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    I had the chance yesterday to test the 100mm S.
    First contact with the lens was great, relatively small and light (for the Leica s lenses standard).
    Thanks to the f2.0 aperture the OVF of the S2 becomes brighter than ever, wonderful to use.
    I was less impressed by the AF: takes time to lock focus. It looks like it quickly get close to the target than hesitates with very small focus adjustments before locking focus. This with an S2 body and last firmware update.
    All in all the AF behavior of the 100mm I've tested is more close to my 120mm macro than to my 70mm or 45mm.
    I've already had this impression when I first tested a 100mm at the Photokina.
    Can anyone comment on his experience with the 100mm AF ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anGy View Post
    I had the chance yesterday to test the 100mm S.
    First contact with the lens was great, relatively small and light (for the Leica s lenses standard).
    Thanks to the f2.0 aperture the OVF of the S2 becomes brighter than ever, wonderful to use.
    I was less impressed by the AF: takes time to lock focus. It looks like it quickly get close to the target than hesitates with very small focus adjustments before locking focus. This with an S2 body and last firmware update.
    All in all the AF behavior of the 100mm I've tested is more close to my 120mm macro than to my 70mm or 45mm.
    I've already had this impression when I first tested a 100mm at the Photokina.
    Can anyone comment on his experience with the 100mm AF ?
    The S focuses faster the the S2,I just got this lens but have no S at the moment as I sold it to fund the 007.

    I have read that the 007 has even better AF.. (I hope its true..)

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    Some samples shot with 100mm Summicron @ F2, for illustrative purpose only,









    This one @ f4
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    Quote Originally Posted by anGy View Post
    I had the chance yesterday to test the 100mm S.
    First contact with the lens was great, relatively small and light (for the Leica s lenses standard).
    Thanks to the f2.0 aperture the OVF of the S2 becomes brighter than ever, wonderful to use.
    I was less impressed by the AF: takes time to lock focus. It looks like it quickly get close to the target than hesitates with very small focus adjustments before locking focus. This with an S2 body and last firmware update.
    All in all the AF behavior of the 100mm I've tested is more close to my 120mm macro than to my 70mm or 45mm.
    I've already had this impression when I first tested a 100mm at the Photokina.
    Can anyone comment on his experience with the 100mm AF ?
    I share that experience. And I have it on the S007. But it's a great lens nevertheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMB View Post
    I share that experience. And I have it on the S007. But it's a great lens nevertheless.

    Let's meet for a shootout. We are in the same city--or close by.
    You have a S-007 ?
    We definitively have to meet !
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMB View Post
    I share that experience. And I have it on the S007. But it's a great lens nevertheless.

    Let's meet for a shootout. We are in the same city--or close by.
    Please tell us about the S(007)!

    RE: the S100/2 auto focus ... I think people have to remember that you are focusing at f/2 which is a VERY fast aperture for Medium Format ... the DOF is VERY shallow, so it requires a target that offers enough contrast for the AF to lock on to.

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    Maybe we need a European meet if there's a 007 floating about!

    I am probably going to put my backup S 006 body up for sale with my 100 f2 in order to help fund a 007 and zoom once they release, it will fit better with my commercial work, I've only taken 600 shots with the 100!

    I have tended to focus manually with the 100 so far, in the studio it's pretty easy, occasionally I use the AF to get close but that final adjustment I like to do myself, different folks work in different ways. Stopped down a little I find the AF very accurate on the 006.

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    Mat, stopping down doesn't affect the AF because the focusing is done auto-aperture wide open ... stopping down just increases the DOF a little when the shot is actually taken.

    I tend to use the 100/2 at a bit more of a distance which also increases the DOF.

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    Yes Marc, I'm fully aware how the focussing works, thanks for explaining that stopping down increases depth of field, much appreciated.

    What I am saying is that if I am shooting wide open, then the lens behaves as described above, very quickly gets close and then if I repress the af it will readjust finely. If I am shooting stopped down a little then I have found I'm happy to just press the af once, get the initial lock and shoot, I don't worry about pressing again for the same level of fine focus I would if I was wide open, hence feeling it's very accurate, maybe I should have said fast instead. I also prefer to use the viewfinder and manual focus or rock slightly when wide open rather than use the af after the initial lock.

    As I said, different people work in different ways and I'm pretty sure you understood what I meant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RVB View Post
    The S focuses faster the the S2,I just got this lens but have no S at the moment as I sold it to fund the 007.

    I have read that the 007 has even better AF.. (I hope its true..)
    Hi Rob, I'd be interested to hear what made you decide to go for the 007?

    Me, I'm going to wait and see, although I'm liking the specs on paper very much. Business is slow here so I don't have the funds available at the moment and I have a lot of other things that I have to take care of, so I have little time left for my photography, unfortunately.

    Kind regards, Peter

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    Yes Marc, I'm fully aware how the focussing works, thanks for explaining that stopping down increases depth of field, much appreciated.

    What I am saying is that if I am shooting wide open, then the lens behaves as described above, very quickly gets close and then if I repress the af it will readjust finely. If I am shooting stopped down a little then I have found I'm happy to just press the af once, get the initial lock and shoot, I don't worry about pressing again for the same level of fine focus I would if I was wide open, hence feeling it's very accurate, maybe I should have said fast instead. I also prefer to use the viewfinder and manual focus or rock slightly when wide open rather than use the af after the initial lock.

    As I said, different people work in different ways and I'm pretty sure you understood what I meant.

    Mat
    Sorry, I misunderstood when you said ... "Stopped down a little I find the AF very accurate on the 006."

    "Fast" or faster, makes sense as you now explain it.

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    Since this originally is a picture thread, here's a recent one of mine.

    I hesitate to post here lately, because the photos tend to get fuzzy somehow, but let me tell you it's very sharp.

    My new 24mm on the S2 at f9,5 1/180, TreeDesolation:

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    Yes, good point Peter, it is an image thread so here's one from yesterday morning.

    http://matrichardson.com/
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    I am not sure that there are S007 floating around in Europe or if Georg made a typo and maybe meant S006?

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    Yes, pretty sure GMB made a typo, he recently switched from S2 to S006.
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    I have the 24mm for a year now and still amazed how sharp it is (found f6.8 the sweat spot between center and borders sharpness)
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    Yes AnGy, I think that's about right. I'm sure after f6.8-f8.0 diffraction kicks in, but I wanted to see as much DOF is possible. I guess f8.0 would have been sufficient, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterv View Post
    Hi Rob, I'd be interested to hear what made you decide to go for the 007?

    Me, I'm going to wait and see, although I'm liking the specs on paper very much. Business is slow here so I don't have the funds available at the moment and I have a lot of other things that I have to take care of, so I have little time left for my photography, unfortunately.

    Kind regards, Peter
    Peter I wanted the live view for using in low light on a tripod,I've had many misses with the AF,I also hope to see a change in firmware which allows long exposure without DF,one of the Leica reps said they would consider this.

    Last but not least is the higher ISO ability and WIFI,the USB 3 connection for tethering is another benefit.

    Upgrading is expensive but I sold the 006 in the UK and sterling is strong against the Euro at the moment which gave me a good price,if I kept it for another year I would have got a lot less for it,the balance I raised from selling the last of my Hasselblad glass.(Only H lens I have left is the HC 100 but no need for that now with the S100 cron ;-) )

    When It arrives (I've no idea when) we can meet up if you want to try it out!!

    Rob

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    Yes, pretty sure GMB made a typo, he recently switched from S2 to S006.
    Indeed. This was (unfortunately) a typo. Sorry for the confusion.
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    Peter I wanted the live view for using in low light on a tripod,I've had many misses with the AF,I also hope to see a change in firmware which allows long exposure without DF,one of the Leica reps said they would consider this.

    Last but not least is the higher ISO ability and WIFI,the USB 3 connection for tethering is another benefit.
    All good points, Rob. If I had lots of dough right now, I'd certainly be on the waiting list. In spite of all the CDD-CMOS wars. Mind you, my S2-P gives me excellent results, it's just that I'd like to find out first hand about all the goodies the 007 will bring. For me, the ability to shoot at high(-er) ISO's > shorter shutter speeds in low light would be very welcome. A new camera with 3 year warranty would give me peace of mind, too.

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    When It arrives (I've no idea when) we can meet up if you want to try it out!!
    That would be great, hope to see you soon!

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    Varion Elmar at 71 mm, f9.5 handheld

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    Another one. Several photos stiched. Vario Elmar at 70 mm. Tripod.

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    One more. Shot in Mallorca over Easter. Zoom @30 mm with pol filter.

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    GMB: love that last shot. Especially since I also love Mallorca, it's a fantastic island. This photo makes me want to go there immediately!
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