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    MM,50/1.4 Lux Asph. f/11,1/4000,ISO320,No filter..

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    Lots of delicious temptations there, for certain.
    I'm like a kid in a candy store there.

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    Our fellow members Stephen and Teera in Bangkok:



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    Nice to see Stephen...shorter hair!!!
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    Lots of talk on the new M...Well, I went and edited some of Jono's files from the DNG's posted on LUF and Leica' site, and I would say that I am pleased enough with the output...These are Jono's shots, not mine, and are from the M240....sorry, Jono, if these edits offend at all...















    I can say with conviction that the files are malleable, but not in the same ball park as the MM for BW work...in my mind, the files are more like M9 files for BW conversion than MM files, which have incredible mid tone flexibility....ISO performance of the MM is more to my taste, when pixel peeping, but nevertheless, the M240 will make for a nice BW camera as well, due to its expanded DR...banding is obviously present, but I believe firmware may be at play, from what reading on comments that I have done....

    Apologies again to Jono if I have overstepped my bounds in posting and editing his images...
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    I am grateful to you all for the ' likes '. Thank you so very much. Means a lot to me.

    Mekong at sunset. Testing the ME, handheld..


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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post

    I can say with conviction that the files are malleable, but not in the same ball park as the MM for BW work...in my mind, the files are more like M9 files for BW conversion than MM files, which have incredible mid tone flexibility....ISO performance of the MM is more to my taste, when pixel peeping, but nevertheless, the M240 will make for a nice BW camera as well, due to its expanded DR...banding is obviously present, but I believe firmware may be at play, from what reading on comments that I have done....
    That text, Ashwin, being more malleable, will take me a lot of time to understand.

    (I don't mean any malice, it was just a bit too obtuse for me.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayyan View Post
    I am grateful to you all for the ' likes '. Thank you so very much. Means a lot to me.

    Mekong at sunset. Testing the ME, handheld..

    p.s. I have collected dust bunnies along the way! Shall take care of them when at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Nice to see Stephen...shorter hair!!!
    I'm going for that Ashwin look, albeit in a slightly shorter version!

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    Walk around downtown Los Angeles a few weeks ago









    C&C always welcome and appreciated.


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    Nice set, Matt. Love the woman with the bag on her head. Great catch.
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    Matt, I really like the Angel's Flight shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    That text, Ashwin, being more malleable, will take me a lot of time to understand.

    (I don't mean any malice, it was just a bit too obtuse for me.)
    I certainly don't want to speak for Ashwin, but I often used this term to describe files (especially RAW) from certain cameras, that allows a extensive and wide ranging amount of adjustment and manipulation, especially with regards to exposure lattitude (among many other things).... without these adjustments being destructive (or kept to a minimum) to the native file. Certain camera's files are much more adaptable to these wide ranging adjustments than others.

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    Matt, as much as I like the capture of the woman with the bag on her head...I think the last one of the Cable Car and young girl making perfect eye contact...is a classically framed/composed shot and illustrates the moment nicely.

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    MM,35/1.4Lux FLE,ISO 2500...


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    Out and about in Bangkok today shooting at Hua Lamphong station and near the Old Customs House with member teeraash. Scorching hot, but great fun.

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    Great thread with a lot of beautiful pictures !

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    Quote Originally Posted by StephenPatterson View Post
    Out and about in Bangkok today shooting at Hua Lamphong station and near the Old Customs House with member teeraash. Scorching hot, but great fun.

    M9-P + 21 Super Elmar M (#1 & #2) and 35 Summilux FLE (#3)

    Lovely, I really like her mysterious-half-smile-look.
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    Stephen I don't know if it's your processing technique or how the lens normally renders but that second train shot really has a near "Zeiss-like" appeal to the pop in the colors. I like it and I haven't been "wowed" by much coming from the 21 SE. These shots makes me reconsider what I thought I knew about it when I dismissed it from the first group of shots I saw from it.
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    Thank you for the nice comments. The little girl was definitely a lucky shot and my favorite of the day with the bag lady a close second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosermage View Post
    Matt, I really like the Angel's Flight shot.
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    Matt, as much as I like the capture of the woman with the bag on her head...I think the last one of the Cable Car and young girl making perfect eye contact...is a classically framed/composed shot and illustrates the moment nicely.

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    Nice set, Matt. Love the woman with the bag on her head. Great catch.

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    Wow! Gorgeous image, nicely done!
    Lloyd, a big thank you.

    Regards.

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    Along the banks of the river Mekong...

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    A B+W re-edit of the 2nd shot i ever took with my M8 and 1964 cron 50 combo , too bad it was taken at ISO 640 and shot as a JPG

    but I really like this shot of her, hopefully Ill be around when she gets married and I can include this in a slideshow or print package

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    Hi Stephen, hope that you don't my my expose of "behind the scene of Bangkok's mosque street photography".

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    Went to Malmö in southern Sweden to do a leadership workshop yesterday and snapped some shots.

    First three with Elmarit 28 ASPH and the last one with ZM 35/2.


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    Dancers.

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    M9 + ZM 35/2 Biogon

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    Thank you all for 'likes'

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    Today...

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    M9 + ZM 35/2 Biogon

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    Thank you all for the Likes !

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    Very much like this shot! It appears to me the crop enhances the perceived tension between the two. (ie: tight crop, heightened tension)

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    Trendwood Creek, February 05, 2013 by Maggie Osterberg, on Flickr

    BTW, this shot doesn't work at all in color, because the tiny reflections go off into all sorts of single-pixel colors. Does anyone know what's up with that? I've only seen it in photos from this lens, which is the C Biogon 35/2.8.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D&A View Post
    Very much like this shot! It appears to me the crop enhances the perceived tension between the two. (ie: tight crop, heightened tension)

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    Thanks, Dave,

    you are absolutely right - exact this was my intention. You can feel the tension in the original pic too, but the tight framing concentrates on the distance between the two and makes the tension even more palpable.

    Best regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by wosim View Post
    Thanks, Dave,

    you are absolutely right - exact this was my intention. You can feel the tension in the original pic too, but the tight framing concentrates on the distance between the two and makes the tension even more palpable.

    Best regards
    Nicely put! I also feel the glass between the two is a very important element....sort of a territorial line placed between them. I covered up the glass in the image with my hand, and it truly takes away something from the image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post

    BTW, this shot doesn't work at all in color, because the tiny reflections go off into all sorts of single-pixel colors. Does anyone know what's up with that? I've only seen it in photos from this lens, which is the C Biogon 35/2.8.
    I read somewhere along the way that the M9 should be set as a 35/2.5 Summarit when using the C Biogon. You may want to give that a try . . . . .

    . . . . . also Ashwin used this Lens for awhile and may be able to shed some light its use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post

    BTW, this shot doesn't work at all in color, because the tiny reflections go off into all sorts of single-pixel colors. Does anyone know what's up with that? I've only seen it in photos from this lens, which is the C Biogon 35/2.8.
    It means that this this lens is too sharp for your sensor, Maggie. Try turning down the sharpening a bit. What converter are you using? Alternatively, you can try stopping down more to reduce the lens sharpness.
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    I'm using an iMac with Aperture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    I'm using an iMac with Aperture.
    I don't have experience with aperture, but what you're describing sounds like demosaicing artifacts or moire. Sometimes different converters may behave differently so if you have another converter, you may want to try that. As mentioned earlier, reducing sharpening, or stopping down the lens to f/11-16 so that diffraction softens the image slightly, may help as well.
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    A few more shots with the M9 and ZM 35/2 Biogon:


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    One in b/w for a change:


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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardkaraa View Post
    I don't have experience with aperture, but what you're describing sounds like demosaicing artifacts or moire. Sometimes different converters may behave differently so if you have another converter, you may want to try that. As mentioned earlier, reducing sharpening, or stopping down the lens to f/11-16 so that diffraction softens the image slightly, may help as well.
    OK, but I could have sworn that I had it stopped down to at least f/11. I may just have to sell it off and get a Summicron or go back to my Voigtlanders..

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    I'm very curious now. Maggie can you please post a 100% crop of the problem area? I'm pretty sure it can't be the lens, unless it's some kind of CA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardkaraa View Post
    I'm very curious now. Maggie can you please post a 100% crop of the problem area? I'm pretty sure it can't be the lens, unless it's some kind of CA.
    OK, here it is, in color and a crop at full size:
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    I wonder if that is moire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    I wonder if that is moire?
    I don't think so. That looks like demosaicing artifacts to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwardkaraa View Post
    I don't think so. That looks like demosaicing artifacts to me.
    Same here. the single pixel RGB artifacts in the original convinced me. That and a little internet searching, that shows the C Biogon 35/2.8 has problems with the M9 sensor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    Same here. the single pixel RGB artifacts in the original convinced me. That and a little internet searching, that shows the C Biogon 35/2.8 has problems with the M9 sensor.
    It's definitely not the lens fault, except for out resolving the sensor, but there are many lenses out there that can do that even better. It's actually not a bad thing.

    What I see is a converter fault. From what I've heard, C1 seems to be the best, followed by ACR regarding demosaicing. Not sure about aperture though.
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    Then why don't other cameras show this if it is a demosaicing artifact? Actually, I have never seen an artifact like this cause by my RAW converter. The water is creating high-contrast, high-frequency details. I think it is moire, just with a point source target rather then a linear one and so we are not seeing the usual interference patterns.
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    Shashin, basically we are saying the same thing in different words. I didn't call it moire because of the absence of the interference patterns as you say. Sometime ago in this thread, someone showed the same shot processed in C1 and ACR. Very fine text on a sign produced moire-like color artifacts with ACR, but it was almost perfectly black and artifact free with C1.
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    Maggie I think the image has a capture error notice the strange smears running slightly diagonally from bottom left to top right and this error has probably not recorded all the information. Would love to have a bash with the raw file if you don't mind.

    I retract my thoughts I put forward above, the file had strange diagonal lines in the image and that the data could have been corrupted.
    After looking at the original I see the diagonal lines are in the concrete itself and my thoughts are that the lens is so sharp that there isn't enough resolution on the sensor.
    Different converters all give different results but don't eliminate the artefacts.
    I post a crop of the file put through LR3 and Defringe: All helps a lot and then in PS via Lab removing the rest.
    I tended to somewhat over in Sharpening/Saturation
    My thinking now is that the lens (superb) is beyond the capabilities of the M9's resolution.

    Stephen a lovely colorful set from your part of the world, well done!
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