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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Good question: here are some alternatives...

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    Jonas Lack (bit of a stretch that one)

    it's anyone's guess!


    . . . . and to think, we almost called our middle boy Titus . . . . . . . .

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    When I heard the name as "Jaunau"in an interview (American version), i asked Jono and it is Jono.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post


    . . . . and to think, we almost called our middle boy Titus . . . . . . . .
    Ouch. Titus Slack. Sounds like a pilates exercise.

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    re: Fun with the New Leica M

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    Ouch. Titus Slack. Sounds like a pilates exercise.
    I think you do it too much credit - it sounds much worse than that to me!

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    One from my blog entry: Glass Blowing | Green Energy Park, Dillsboro NC



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    Thank you all for likes.
    MM,Elmarit 2.8/90..

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    well, it's a little confusing the way it is now. One thread should be differentiated some way I would think, but I'll let it go, I know the difference now. I guess new people will figure out out on their own.

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    M9 - ZM 35/2

    M262 ZM 25/2.8 35/1.4 50/2 85/2
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    Re: Fun with the New Leica M

    Quote Originally Posted by Photojazz View Post
    well, it's a little confusing the way it is now. One thread should be differentiated some way I would think, but I'll let it go, I know the difference now. I guess new people will figure out out on their own.
    HI There
    I had it changed to the NEW Leica M . . . I thought that would do, and was better than the dreaded '240'

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    Re: Fun with the New Leica M

    Here is another tree and dog shot - I like them (and soon the leaves will stop all this malarkey!)


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    Leica M with WATE at 16mm

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    Scotland...M8/ 75 cron...an unbeatable combo for me.
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    First opportunity to shoot the MM at an event. Oscar de la Renta bridal backstage.

    I am utterly in awe over this camera. I feel like this camera will be mine forever, till death do us part... and my wife's perfectly okay with that.

    All with 35 Lux ASPH, some with SF24 flash mounted.






















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    Vlad,
    beautiful,
    especially third image.

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    Learning to Blacksmith at the Green Energy Park

    My son is interested in learning how to blacksmith and we attended a two day class this past weekend at the Green Energy Park, Dillsboro, NC. This is his fourth time there and of course I had to take some photos. I've posted a blog entry with a gallery of images here:

    Learning to Blacksmith



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    Re: Fun with the New Leica M

    I have been considering getting back into a Leica M system ever since the Leica M 240 was announced. The M9 seemed to have too many compromises for me to commit such a large budget.
    Today I saw some images from the camera on rangefinderforum.com. It was a behind the scenes look at the Melbourne fashion show all photographed with the new M and a Leica 50mm and Voightlander 35.
    To be honest the image quality was atrocious. Reminded me of my Canon DSLR's from the early 2000's. The images were plasticy with muted and lifeless colors.
    I still haven't seen anything from this camera that gets me excited to spend a large budget to get into this system.

    As a former photojournalist the Leica M6 and MP were (specially the M6) were my go to cameras for anything shot with a 50mm lens or shorter. Unfortunately I sold off my Leica's and five lenses during the beginning of the digital revolution in the early 2000's to finance Canon DSLR's.
    To this day I have not used a camera from any manufacturer that has the feel of a Leica M.

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    I started with an M8 a few years ago and moved quickly to an M9. Recently I purchased a used M8.2... I forgot how smooth the images are at ISO 160! Taken with 50 Summilux-M ASPH, f/1,4.

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    Thanks to all that posted likes! Much appreciated!
    Here are 2 Both M9 1st.75mm Summarit, 2nd 90mm Cron.Apo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharokin View Post
    I have been considering getting back into a Leica M system ever since the Leica M 240 was announced. The M9 seemed to have too many compromises for me to commit such a large budget.
    Today I saw some images from the camera on rangefinderforum.com. It was a behind the scenes look at the Melbourne fashion show all photographed with the new M and a Leica 50mm and Voightlander 35.
    To be honest the image quality was atrocious. Reminded me of my Canon DSLR's from the early 2000's. The images were plasticy with muted and lifeless colors.
    I still haven't seen anything from this camera that gets me excited to spend a large budget to get into this system.

    As a former photojournalist the Leica M6 and MP were (specially the M6) were my go to cameras for anything shot with a 50mm lens or shorter. Unfortunately I sold off my Leica's and five lenses during the beginning of the digital revolution in the early 2000's to finance Canon DSLR's.
    To this day I have not used a camera from any manufacturer that has the feel of a Leica M.
    Well, I applaud your straight talk on the "M". I too am having problems but it may be just "early days" while Leica works on the FW.

    I tried (see below) a bit of 'punch' PP to get a more M9 look, and it shows that it CAN be punched up. Here, the image was a crop (graciously, Jono gave me permission to play around)

    If we just say "the "M" is a Leica, therefore the best" then what about all the M8/M9 people who say "the look is different, not as good as the Former cameras"

    They are not ALL crazy! So what is it? can some of what Sean Reid calls "presence" be returned? He shows that a downrez does a lot (and actually shifts color to M9 like spectrum) His review was enlightening.

    A few points:
    1. Not only is CMOS a different readout technology, there are other challenges and compromises, just as in CCD (see Tim Ashley's review that striking points out the M9 limitations, in fact of CCD in general! )
    2. The pixel pitch may be getting to the semiconductor limit
    3. The pitch is smaller as the resolution is higher. It may also be affected by the angle if incidence; it is not just diffraction of lens and aperture blades, the whole path is prone to edge effects.

    So with that, the following is JUST to show that an "M" image can be manipulated and get some extra punch from simple clarity, tone and edge sharpening. The bridge scene is more subtle, but the bird? Yes, there is an artificiality, but to my eye, not 'plasticy' but rather a bit brittle. This is a crop though, and full frames will take a lot more shaking around as the parkscape shows
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    Before you complain about PP, I know many pros here dial in a "look" that adds punch with clarity, saturation, and tone, keeping the dreaded "oversharpening" at bay. It adds interest, and let's face it, the data in a bayer matrix just isn't what our eyes see! :-)

    With the risk that I may have gone over the edge, here is Jono's robin with some post. It does one thing at least for me; it starts to get back that 'isolation' of the key image from the background that gives the presence.

    Regards
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    PS First is a larger image, the bird is cropped so PP has a more severe effect.
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    Novice bird photographers by Amin Sabet, on Flickr

    Nokton 35/1.2 v. 1 on M9
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    I really liked the low asa image quality of the M9. The images had the same look as my H4D 40 which also uses a Kodak CCD sensor. Ironically the H4D 40 has slightly better high asa than the Leica.
    I still haven't seen an image from the new M that moves me the way the M9 did.
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    just messing around with the macro adapter...
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    David, just curious to know your opinion about the macro adapter.
    M262 ZM 25/2.8 35/1.4 50/2 85/2

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    Edward, that shot is pretty much uncropped, except to make it into a 5x7 ratio... so that's about as close to the subject as you can get with the 90mm, which is about 0.5 meters. For web displays, I don't think it's all that useful since I could have just shot it further away and crop it down a little bit to get the same result. What's cool is that the lens had a seperate set of distance scale for macro on the other side of the barrel, with the adapter, you mount the lens upside down so the macro distance scale shows on top of the lens, it seems very well thought out. I also like the 45 degree angle finder adapter (you can use it with other lenses), allows me to get a lower perspective, where without it, I might have to lie down on the ground to focus.
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    Thank you very much David. That confirms my impression I had about this set up. I believe the better option would be a M 240 with an R macro lens, but this will have to wait a few months.
    M262 ZM 25/2.8 35/1.4 50/2 85/2

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    one of my favorite Smokies streams: 24mm on M9

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    Took a stroll through town today as spring has finally arrived:



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    Nice shot of your M5 Maggie, and nice car! The scenery is nice as well.

    I have an older M3, well 2003. I don't drive it much though, it mostly sits in my garage.

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    MM,Elmarit 2,8/90..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maggie O View Post
    On the road with the C Biogon:
    Dang, screw the C-Biogon, gimme the M5!

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    From couple of months ago. I don't believe I have posted these before.

    M9 - ZM 35/2



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    I wish the M5 was mine! It belongs to my SO, Michael.

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    Testing out a friend's M....







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    Some pics of getDPI member ashwinrao1 shooting the new M...


    Ashwin Funny Face M240 by onesixeight88, on Flickr


    Ashwin M240... by onesixeight88, on Flickr


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    HI Ashwin
    Love the first shot (how did you set the WB - one thing is for sure - he isn't too yellow!

    all the best

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    Re: Fun with the New Leica M

    Very colorful, for sure. M8 colorful.
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    Inquiry minds want to know...what lens(s) used for each image? Ashwin, always look forward to your postings and this one is no exception. Thanks!

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    Workers by ME and 35 FLE












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    MM,Elmarit 2.8/90..

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    Re: Fun with the New Leica M

    There's no question that the new M provides excellent digital range and vivid colors. In my opinion, there's an important question of whether they are the right colors.

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    Yeah, not sure if it's the right colors.

    Jono, I used the AWB. The setting was decidedly cool, but it's interesting how the M picked this up as very "blue". I noticed that the M tended to saturate blues, yellows, and greens with heavy richness.

    Dave, most of those shots were 50 lux asph, though the first BW was the 8-element summicron

    Vivek, funny. To me, the new M does paint different than either the M8 or the M9. I feel that the images are more saturated. Almost like a velvia makeover or something in the digital equivalent.

    Kurt, I agree. What I found was instances where the M was spot on and others where it was way off, sometimes even from shot to shot. The WB issue needs some work.

    The detail in the files is quite nice. BW conversions are fine, but after the MM, I realized how spoiled I was. I don't feel that the M could be a true replacement for those who have enjoyed the MM.

    That being said, it's a nice camera. I didn't care for the EVF, other than in very low light, where it was helpful. Focus peaking in low light seemed challenged on the 50 lux asph, but better on the 35 lux FLE.

    I also noted that older lenses, with different coatings, like the 8-element cron and 90 Leitz elmarit, painted almost pastel colors...very different...

    Colors require work, and being a tad color blind, I could well be challenged by this camera...

    It was a fun ride. I expect that it would take some time to get the workflow right. I am still enjoying the MM so much that I don't know where/when I'd shoot the M. I will get one eventually, probably after the Queues die down and prices start to settle...for me, I found the shooting experience a bit more complicated, with options such as the EVF a bit distracting from RF use, but it's nice to be able to use the camera as a true RF....it's a camera that requires a period of adjustment, both in useage and in file editing....

    It'll be a fun camera to learn when the time is right, and it gets quite a few things right, but also a few things wrong (delayed shutter with EVF use, slow image replay after photo is taken)....
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    Re: Fun with the New Leica M

    Ashwin, The pics of you holding the M says it all to me.

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    re: Fun w/Digital M Images

    Much to the dismay of my wife, I'm starting to process more and more images into BW. I can't really explain why.. but I try to keep pictures of family in color so she doesn't nag me as much




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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Testing out a friend's M....




    The skin tones are really off here, no? Your friends seems to look a bit too red on this photo. Unless he is like that in real life. It seems new M has issues with the skin tones?


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    Re: Fun with the New Leica M

    Yep - the M does indeed have WB issues. Just like the M8, M9, etc when they first came out. Not a big concern at all....

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowherean View Post
    The skin tones are really off here, no? Your friends seems to look a bit too red on this photo. Unless he is like that in real life. It seems new M has issues with the skin tones?
    Definitely too red...I was there yesterday and he isn't that red!

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    I actually quite like the M, but the color issue is really challenging for me. I see the magenta and red where it shouldn't quite be, and I'm red green color blind....Once the M is sorted out through a few WB tweaks in firmware, and when skin tones are closer to what I am aiming for, I'll be onboard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hosermage View Post
    Much to the dismay of my wife, I'm starting to process more and more images into BW. I can't really explain why.. but I try to keep pictures of family in color so she doesn't nag me as much
    +1!

    I often ask my wife if she likes an image better in B&W or color, and I can't remember a single one yet she liked better in B&W. It's always "You know I like color better", and the best she says about a B&W conversion is "It's okay, I guess".

    My boys continuing their photo walk:


    L1001649 by Amin Sabet, on Flickr

    Canon 50/1.4 LTM, M9

    ... and one in color for my wife:


    L1001887 by Amin Sabet, on Flickr

    Voigtlander 15/4.5, M9
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