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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Another. The near edge of the "o" is about where I thought I was focusing.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

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    Focus seems fine, Woody. The mush came from poor light.

    I take it that you use it with a proper hood?
    Proper? Rubber 40.5mm screw on. Helps but if there's a bright light source in the frame it flares.

    About time to experiment with some human subjects.

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    Another. The near edge of the "o" is about where I thought I was focusing.
    Focus is just fine. There is no RF patch at the edge of the "o" and you had to change the perspective to get what you captured in the frame.

    I have a Voigtlander metal hood for it (rather its clone , Jupiter-3). The rubber hood should be OK. Flare, of course, is part of its "character".

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    A few from Last night with the MM





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    Great shots, all!

    I just received a Monochrom in the mail. No, I didn't buy it -- I rented from LensRentals.com. Kind of a Christmas gift to myself. And as a seemingly bonus Christmas gift the camera came early. That by itself isn't that great since I'd planned to have the camera over a specific period. What is great is that the LensRentals email receipt I just received states that while I got it today, the return date is still the 28th. Three day bonus!

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    A few portraits, using the 75 lux on the MM





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    Nice shots of some very handsome folks.

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    particularly striking is the combination of noise and skin texture on the woman's face.

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    The face is striking but this picture is not entirely flattering, I would think. We have seen other fabulous ones from Ashwin.

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    A few from today.

    Leica Monochrom and 75 Summilux


    Steam Engine 771







    Drive Wheels






    Leica Monochrom and 35 Summicron Asph


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    I forgot that I need to stay out of this thread so I don't go spending $8000 uncontrollably!

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    Bob -love that second shot - classic B&W composition.

    All the best Pete

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    Thank you Pete...I just love the files from this camera.

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    ^^ inspiring shots on the previous posts! ^^

    i'd like to share some more shots before Christmas eve, today the 24th, officially marks my 1 month adventure with the Monochrom. Happy holidays!





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    Quote Originally Posted by xdayv View Post
    ^^ inspiring shots on the previous posts! ^^

    i'd like to share some more shots before Christmas eve, today the 24th, officially marks my 1 month adventure with the Monochrom. Happy holidays!





    And what a month that it has been. Congrats on the great images, Dave, and it's amazing how fast you have mastered the camera for a very unique and potent look, of life as you see it, with the MM serving as enabler...great work, and have the happiest of holidays!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    And what a month that it has been. Congrats on the great images, Dave, and it's amazing how fast you have mastered the camera for a very unique and potent look, of life as you see it, with the MM serving as enabler...great work, and have the happiest of holidays!
    Ashwin, thanks for the kind words. Happy holidays to you and your family!
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    Just got my MM and haven't had a chance to walk around - already it is worth the price of admission as far as I am concerned because I am getting much closer to old fashioned B&W film look - ie lots of information to play with at both ends of the curve -depending on your needs - without too much mucking around - a pity Aperture doesn't support the raw files yet...

    Amazing ability to capture highlights OR Darks..

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    Pete,

    I just love the way that 50 Lux draws....oh I must save for the Apo...must save for the......


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    First a Christmas themed picture then a couple from my day at the train yard....


    Monochrom and 35 Cron Asph


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    I used a Ricoh GXR to prefocus an R 4/280 and then after removing the GXR I mounted an MM on the Novoflex adapter. First try, but better than just looking at my R lenses.

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    Interesting.

    Louis, I am trying to figure out what is going on. I could make out the cloned area next to the foot. I can't figure out where the grid like structure all over the frame comes from.

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    Interesting.

    Louis, I am trying to figure out what is going on. I could make out the cloned area next to the foot. I can't figure out where the grid like structure all over the frame comes from.
    Good question. I was trying to take out the bright spot light with that clone tool in LR (I much prefer PS) and screwed up but decided to post it anyway. My monitor does not show a grid like structure all over the frame though.

    Just do not have the patience today to redo it. Sorry it comes out so lousy on your monitor. Did you import it into LR or PS?

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    The clone is not a problem and nothing bothers me. The grid pattern is very clear and would show if you print this frame. I am looking at it through a proof monitor (not imported to any program and am just looking at this page). If you look at the same image on an iPad, for example, there is no grid (except the area below the right boot). I thought I will let you know.

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    Interesting.

    Louis, I am trying to figure out what is going on. I could make out the cloned area next to the foot. I can't figure out where the grid like structure all over the frame comes from.
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    The clone is not a problem and nothing bothers me. The grid pattern is very clear and would show if you print this frame. I am looking at it through a proof monitor. If you look at the same image on an iPad, for example, there is no grid (except the area below the right boot). I thought I will let you know.
    Thanks. You don't mean the grain do you? It was shot at ISO 2500.

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    It can not be grain unless this is a 10% crop of the frame.

    (There is grain structure within the grey dots which are arranged in a neat grid like pattern all over the frame. This may be too sharp a lens for the MM- my speculation.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    It can not be grain unless this is a 10% crop of the frame.

    (There is grain structure within the grey dots which are arranged in a neat grid like pattern all over the frame. This may be too sharp a lens for the MM- my speculation.)
    I never thought of an old lens being too sharp for the MM. Interesting observation. It is cropped, but I would say only down by 20% at most, so you are looking at 80% of the original 18MP. I did not shoot a Jpeg that night, but those are what I tend to post OOC.

    I surmise most of any problem has to do with my quickie approach to putting it on the net.

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    Please, I would like to see more, if possible when you get a chance.

    "Old lens"?

    Ask Doug Herr about it. This is probably the sharpest from Leica, ever!

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    That was the only night I have ever used the lens. Many shots were not in focus due to the high winds and slow shutter speeds. I pumped the ISO up to 8000, but even then I could not get past 1/90 which still is way too slow. I would prefer using 1/1000 or faster. The lens was made in 1996 according to Leica Wiki data.

    The other shots I was also trying were with my APO 70-180 which did not work out for all the reasons above.

    Must do some daylight shooting, but I have a bad cold right now. It seems I must have aggravated by body on that windy night in very cold weather.
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    A few from my rental, with a Zeiss Sonnar wide open. I think high ISO images look better than low ISO images on the MM.



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    beautiful brynn by mike thomas, on Flickr

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    [IMG] b.jpg by Peetey, on Flickr[/IMG]
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    Early morning breakfast after the 4:30AM holy mass (Misa de Gallo), a Roman Catholic tradition of 9 days novena in preparation for Christmas day...









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    Lovely photos, Dave.

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    MM + 50mm lux.

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    Ditto

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    More from my faux Zeiss Jena Sonnar (aka rebadged Jupiter).

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    MM + .95 nocti. two frames stitched.

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    Ditto at f.95


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    More nocti.

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    MM plus 18mm Super Elmar.

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    MM plus 18mm Super Elmar.

    Woody this is an amazing shot!
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    MM with 21 Biogon slightly cropped

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    Another one with my "Zeiss Jena Sonnar". Here's an interesting link on the post-War history of Zeiss Jena and Contax: Kiev camera. In round terms the Russians took the Contax and Zeiss Jena businesses as reparations and were acting within their legal rights in doing so. They moved the equipment, plans and people from Jena and Dresden to Kiev. The only Contax and Zeiss Jena products post-1948 or so were made in Kiev. The Kiev factory retained the Zeiss Jena DNA but the Soviet quota system had a terrible effect on quality control. So it's not accurate to refer to the products of the Kiev plant as Russian knock offs - at that point there were no Zeiss Jena products to knock off. I'm not certain what they did for glass as historically Zeiss Jena's relationship with Schott, also in Jena, was critical to Zeiss.

    So my lens is from the Kiev plant and it was rushed out the door to meet a quota so they skipped the depth of field scale. The optical cell is just fine, though.

    Other research suggests that this design had some focus shift and tend to back focus wide open, which is consistent with my experience. Stopped down to f2.8 or so focus is fine.

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    Having spent a great deal of time in Europe (West Germany and then England) when I was young, Soviet optics have a special place in my heart. The best deals and some of the most interesting stuff for a poor photographer taking a foray into the discipline came from the CCCP. I still have the parts to a Soviet briefcase 35mm enlarger--the foam turned back into oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Campbell View Post
    Another one with my "Zeiss Jena Sonnar". Here's an interesting link on the post-War history of Zeiss Jena and Contax: Kiev camera. In round terms the Russians took the Contax and Zeiss Jena businesses as reparations and were acting within their legal rights in doing so. They moved the equipment, plans and people from Jena and Dresden to Kiev. The only Contax and Zeiss Jena products post-1948 or so were made in Kiev. The Kiev factory retained the Zeiss Jena DNA but the Soviet quota system had a terrible effect on quality control. So it's not accurate to refer to the products of the Kiev plant as Russian knock offs - at that point there were no Zeiss Jena products to knock off. I'm not certain what the did for glass as historically Zeiss Jena's relationship with Schott, also in Jena, was critical to Zeiss.

    So my lens is from the Kiev plant and it was rushed out the door to meet a quota so they skipped the depth of field scale. The optical cell is just fine, though.

    Other research suggests that this design had some focus shift and tend to back focus wide open, which is consistent with my experience. Stopped down to f2.8 or so focus is fine.
    Not sure where you got yours from, Woody.

    Mine (http://www.getdpi.com/gallery/files/7/8/4/_dsc1705.jpg) is from 1964 and is an exact clone (I have seen pictures of the original Zeiss Jena lens*), complete with dof markings. I also added the Voigtlander hood I have for this in the picture.

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    A poster on another forum was kind enough to track down the serial number on this lens. According to Zeiss records work started on the optical cell in Jena in December 1945. Post in another forum. The lens cell was evidently later installed in its current mount in Germany, the UK or US for the English or US market. Experts in the other forum have never seen a Soviet manufactured lens with feet distance markings.

    Sorry to have diverted this thread from its true purpose - I became obsessed with this oddity. I'll start a new thread for old lenses on new cameras.
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    It's now time to prepare for the new year... for the meantime here are some recent shots during the stormy weather this Christmas:





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