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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    i'm toying with the idea of the MM, but it also brings up the question of why not just use b/w film. any idea of how the two would compare. say an M7 and tri-x vs the MM?

    would the M7 be the suitable M to use?

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    MM + DR sumicorn + IR filter. Not very practical - the MM clearly has excellent IR filtering - shooting in IR requires roughly 10 stops of additional exposure.

    I'm finding that it's ok to let highlights blow if the subject warrants it.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    This is where I get in Lightroom after experimenting with adjustments to look film-like (I've shot and scanned a few rolls of T-Max 100 and Delta 100 to provide a current film benchmark).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    i'm toying with the idea of the MM, but it also brings up the question of why not just use b/w film. any idea of how the two would compare. say an M7 and tri-x vs the MM?

    would the M7 be the suitable M to use?
    I would think that film looks different mainly due to grain and probably a softer rolloff in the highlights.
    I also doubt that film would have comparable resoltion vs the MM at least if you shoot at higher ISO.

    Personally i like the look of film a lot, but I like the convenience of shooting digital nd being able to do the whole workflow from taking the image to print at home my own.

    The M7 would be the right camera if you want auto exposure. Otherwise M6 (good value) or MP (beautiful but expensive)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Campbell View Post
    This is where I get in Lightroom after experimenting with adjustments to look film-like (I've shot and scanned a few rolls of T-Max 100 and Delta 100 to provide a current film benchmark).

    Woody-Can you give us an idea of the sliders you used for the FAO Swartz shot and how much on the sliders or sent a screen shot of the LR page? Thanks.
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Quote Originally Posted by riclib View Post

    What I love about the monochrom is how clean images under monochromatic light (red or blue) are.
    Dancer is under blue light, see how clean the image is in full size (http://goo.gl/oFLWS).
    OMG.
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    i'm toying with the idea of the MM, but it also brings up the question of why not just use b/w film. any idea of how the two would compare. say an M7 and tri-x vs the MM?

    would the M7 be the suitable M to use?
    I do both - B&W film in a variety of 35mm (M7, MP, M5 and half a dozen SLRs) and MF cameras and the Monochrom. The Monochrom is a little dangerous in that it gives MF detail with none of the time/inconvenience penalty of developing and scanning film. But since it doesn't smell of fixer (I am a hypo-addict!) there's no danger of me not using the film cameras. At the end of it all, you must do what you enjoy. Whenever I was asked if I wanted some chocolate roulade or some flan I always asked if I could have a little of each. Nothing changes!

    Roulade (with added fixer):

    Leica MP, Summilux 50, Tri-X at 1250, Diafine, Nikon 9000ED scan.

    Flan:

    Leica M Monochrom, Summilux 75

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    I have decided to bite the bullet and I am on the list at my local Leica shop. A couple of my film cameras will have to go to appease my wife but looking at the Dancer shot I think I am making the right decision. Love shooting low light and MM seems to handle it exceptionally well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hausen View Post
    I have decided to bite the bullet and I am on the list at my local Leica shop. A couple of my film cameras will have to go to appease my wife but looking at the Dancer shot I think I am making the right decision. Love shooting low light and MM seems to handle it exceptionally well.
    I laughed like hell when I read your post. The MM seems to handles low light curves quite well too.
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Quote Originally Posted by StephenPatterson View Post
    Absolutely one of the very best MM images to date. The extreme lighting conditions that were managed in this image, combined with the detail and tonality rendered are a testament to both the photographer and the camera. Bravo.
    have to agree with this!! excellent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hausen View Post
    I have decided to bite the bullet and I am on the list at my local Leica shop. A couple of my film cameras will have to go to appease my wife but looking at the Dancer shot I think I am making the right decision. Love shooting low light and MM seems to handle it exceptionally well.
    I'm with you on this. There's a pretty good likelihood I'm getting myself on the MM bandwagon by the end of the year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghoonk View Post
    I'm with you on this. There's a pretty good likelihood I'm getting myself on the MM bandwagon by the end of the year!
    Why wait so long?

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Continuing to work with my film look and my MM and DR summicron.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Ditto

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Ditto redux.


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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Penultimate image for today

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    That's all for now. Same rig. Three frames stitched in PS.


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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Borrowing the Monochrom for my NYC trip, and posting a few pics while en route....all edited on my 11 inch MacBook Air, so it won't be until I get home that I can really test the latitude of these files. I am thoroughly enjoying the experience so far (thanks Matt Driscoll!!!):







    Plus a few from my brother's wedding





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    Wow Ashwin, the detail in that Basketball shot is amazing.
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Nice work Ash! Looking forward to seeing some more. See you tomorrow...I hope?

    Here's a few. I guess, I'll post here too. There's three M-M's in seattle, that I know of. Not counting a rented one.











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    Woody, great series and examples!
    Ashwin, excellent set of shots! The M-M is dangerous in your hands
    Matt, great stuff! The depth and richness of tones is magic

    Shots from this afternoon with a couple seasoned pros for critique and review, Ian Poole, and Cam Attree. Of course the M-M had to be tested!
    M-M 50 Nocti f/1.0 @ f/1.2 1250 ISO





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    A few to share now that I have gotten home....MM in NYC...

















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    Lovely, Ashwin!
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Campbell View Post
    MM + DR sumicorn + IR filter. Not very practical - the MM clearly has excellent IR filtering - shooting in IR requires roughly 10 stops of additional exposure.

    I'm finding that it's ok to let highlights blow if the subject warrants it.

    Woody, Much appreciated!
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Thanks, Vivek!

    A few more to share: Importing MM images into Nik SilverEfex makes for some fun and easy manipulation. Figured I'd present a few edits from Nik'ized versions of images:















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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Denver, CO: The Oxford Hotel and LoDo at night.

    M-M; 50mm f/1.4; 1/60s; ISO 6400


    M-M; 50mm f/1.4; 1/60s; -1/3 EV; ISO 5000


    M-M; 50mm f/1.4; 1/60s; ISO 2500


    M-M; 50mm f/1.4; 1/90s; ISO 2500


    M-M; 50mm f/1.4; 1/90s; ISO 320


    M-M; 50mm f/1.4; 1/60s; ISO 1000


    M-M; 50mm f/1.4; 1/60s; ISO 1600


    M-M; 50mm f/1.4; 1/125s; +1/3 EV; ISO 320


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    Delightful photos, folks.

    The worst thing about this MM thread is that I want one of them too now. Dang you all. ;-)
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Delightful photos, folks.

    The worst thing about this MM thread is that I want one of them too now. Dang you all. ;-)
    +1.

    With no disrespect to anyone here, I periodically look for MM images on the web. Really striking image quality all around!

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    After following the fun with the Leica M thread for quite some time I happy to be able to post from now on in this thread.

    First three with the 50mm Summicron, the last one with the Nocti f1.







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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Quote Originally Posted by Petster View Post
    After following the fun with the Leica M thread for quite some time I happy to be able to post from now on in this thread.

    First three with the 50mm Summicron, the last one with the Nocti f1.
    Fabulous! Particularly the first one!
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    We went to the annual Wallingford Wurst Festival at my daughter's old K - 8 school. We haven't been in a while (our daughter's 27, now), since mandatory 'volunteer' work for 9 years burned us out. I wanted to photograph the nasty carnys and their scarily, decrepit, unsafe rides.

    Bummer! They'd been replaced with 'safe' inflatable toys. Here's a few shots. All with M-M and 35mm f/1.4 FLE.











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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Campbell View Post
    This is where I get in Lightroom after experimenting with adjustments to look film-like (I've shot and scanned a few rolls of T-Max 100 and Delta 100 to provide a current film benchmark).

    Woody

    Excellent test you have retained the DR while creating a nice balanced contrast ..looks like a test negative . Looks like tri x without the grain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petster View Post
    After following the fun with the Leica M thread for quite some time I happy to be able to post from now on in this thread.

    First three with the 50mm Summicron, the last one with the Nocti f1.







    Great image quality ..you can really see the lens character in the first image .
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    Some terrific images on this thread. From dinner tonight, with an f.95 nocti. Illuminated by candlelight.

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    Hey guy - you need something bigger than that. Same rig.

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    Back at dinner. Same setup. iPhone light.

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    Efex/HDR to subdue white and reflections.
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    RPP Lightness/L* and Photomatix tone-map. - making highlights behave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downstairs View Post
    Efex/HDR to subdue white and reflections.
    Nuanced use of HDR, which I usually dislike, but this is terrific. Could you tell us a bit more about how you did this? It may be that the real key is the controlled lighting.
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Woody, Not even the Monochrom can hold together bright whites and unfilled shadow tones so HDR comes to the rescue. The idea is to just barely compress the extremes to within limits of the printer. Lighting is just an uncontrolled soft-box with a little feathering on the near side. I do it with negatives too, because the scanner range can also do with some help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downstairs View Post
    Woody, Not even the Monochrom can hold together bright whites and unfilled shadow tones so HDR comes to the rescue. The idea is to just barely compress the extremes to within limits of the printer. Lighting is just an uncontrolled soft-box with a little feathering on the near side. I do it with negatives too, because the scanner range can also do with some help.
    I am not a big fan of HDR too, but when used so subtil the result is pretty attractive. In my opinion this is a very thin line, which is easily to cross and then it becomes too artificial.

    There are some very nice portraits in your gallery.

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    The Office Condition







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    Nuanced use of HDR, which I usually dislike, but this is terrific. Could you tell us a bit more about how you did this? It may be that the real key is the controlled lighting.
    Downstairs: +1! Really beautiful. Thanks for the info and the link. Excellent work.

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    A few more to share from my time with the camera....

















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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Ashwin,

    Is this one with the 35'Lux FLE? Just like another shot you had in Paris, it has unbelievable "separation" power!


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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    A few recent snaps.

    M-M; 50mm f/1.4; 1/60s; ISO 500


    M-M; 75mm f/2; 1/1500s; ISO 320


    M-M; 75mm f/2.5; 1/750s; -1/3 EV; ISO 320


    M-M; 50mm f/1.4; 1/60s; ISO 3200


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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    I did something odd for a recent trip to Bermuda. I only brought my MM. That's right, grayscale only in pink sand heaven. And four lenses: f.95 nocti; 40mm Summicron-C (fixed to bring up the 35mm frame lines); 24mm lux; 18mm super elmar.

    Here we go:

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Even more

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