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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Thanks, folks!

    Here is a "whole frame" image, as composed and captured.


    Leica MM, Elmar 90/4, ISO320, 1/60s, f/4

    It looks like this is one of the few lenses I have that brings up the right frame line and focuses spot on. Way too easy to use (or in otherwords, a pleasure to use). The very long focus throw of this 3 element Elmar is also to my liking.
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Quote Originally Posted by Knorp View Post
    Hi there Vivek,

    pleasure meeting you too and wishing you all the best of luck with you MM.
    Looking forward to see some 'crafty snaps'

    Kind regards,
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    Thank you, Bart!

    I am unsure how this is going to pan out but surely there are a number of folks who have shown here what can be made out of the MM.

    Luckily, some of my FSU lenses (Former Soviet Union) appear to be focus correctly and so are the tiny ancient Leica screw lenses I have.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Enjoy the camera Vivek .

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Thank you, Peter!

    I seemed to have lucked out with a Jupiter-3 5cm f/1.5. Focus, wide open, is spot on.



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    Nothing special here, another Jupiter-3 wide open shot. What I am amazed is with the shadow details (those who have a good monitor should be able to see it) and the non destructive nature of the shadow noise. I have not used a camera like this at all. Just amazing.


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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Same set up


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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    I don't know if this camera is weather proofed but a little rain is OK by me.


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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Now is the time to enjoy those very low light, very low shutter speed, hand held shots. 1/12s!


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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom


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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Had no idea the aperture was turned to f/8 for this shot (the lens has a quirky aperture dial which also holds its filter threads).


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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    It is a powerful "stealth" set-up since the lens hardly sticks out.


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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Well, almost unnoticeable.


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    snowing in NYC
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    Where is she?

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    mmbma, That is a brave thing to do! Do you have any filters for that monster?

    In my sample the focus is off thanks to a local repair genius.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    MM + .95 Nocti

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Another. Same rig.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    More of the same

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    MM + 18 mm Super Elmar (the Super Lens). Medium orange filter

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    More MM plus .95 Nocti wide open with .9 ND.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    A few recent shots ...

    First a few street portraits:










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    And a few photographs from life on the streets:










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    MM + 18mm superlens three frames stitched. In other words monster wide. Orange filter.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    In the corridor at Davies Symphony Hall. 50mm cron, yellow filter, ISO 500.

    I am so enjoying the variety of looks shown here. As much as I enjoy the higher key images, I find myself making moodier ones.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtKamka View Post
    A few recent shots ...

    First a few street portraits:
    Apart from the superb portraits themselves, I really like your processing interpretations. Can you share any insights on the software and approach used with these particular street shots?

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Hi Jeff,

    The more that I shoot with the MM and experiment with the files, the more room I'm finding I have to push them around to get rich blacks without losing too much detail. I shot with the M8 and the M9 in the past, but am finding that there's a bit more subtlety in the tones available in the files to work with in the MM. I'm not big on presets, so I usually start with a few adjustments and then change it up for each file depending on what I want the final image to look like.

    As a result, I can mimic some of the same things I was seeing in my S2 shots that I convert to black and white. In most of these shots, I'm dialing back exposure by -1/3 to -2/3 stops. In a majority of the shots I've also added an ND filter. That gives me a nice dark, rich file to start with. From there, I use Lightroom for a few simple tweaks. In some instances, I'll take a further step and run the file through Silver EFX 2 to add a little bit more structure. I probably spend about 3-4 minutes of time on each photo.

    The bottom line is that the MM delivers amazing files full of an infinite number of looks depending upon how you want to shape them. I'd encourage anyone that wants to expand what their Monochrom is delivering to simply take a file and spend some time working on a few radically different versions of a single image. Moving around and experimenting with the sliders in Lightroom is a great and simple way to start. After some time you find that a look that works for you. What I like tends to change from day to day and week to week.

    The great thing about a camera like the MM is that if that is the way you like to work, the possibilities are endless.

    I hope that helps.

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    Thanks so much, Kurt; I appreciate your taking time to elaborate.

    I currently use the M8.2, deciding against the M9, as I prefer the b/w output from the former. I, too, use LR for processing, although I have no experience with EFX2. (Any quick comments, if that's even possible for a non-user, on what controls allow for 'more structure' is welcome.) The print is always my goal, so I focus quite a bit on workflow beyond LR...papers, profiles, printer settings, etc.

    I was a film user for decades, having built multiple darkrooms over the years for b/w. I've been tempted by the MM, but frankly have gotten spoiled by not having to use lens filters (other than the UV/IR filters that just stay locked in place for my M8.2), as well as being able to use color channels in LR for my PP. In addition, although I don't rely on screen shots for my camera evaluation (preferring to make my own prints with my own pics), much of what I've seen online has been lacking for me. Your files, though, are closer to what I like to see, so that makes me rethink the MM's capabilities and whether I ought to rent an MM for test.

    In the meantime, my next objective was to test the new M. IQ, both b/w and color, will be paramount, and if that holds I welcome the weather sealing, quieter shutter, faster processing and longer battery life, 2m frame lines and the possibility for longer lenses. But none of that matters if the IQ isn't sufficient for my needs and preferences.

    Now you've gone and complicated my thought process.

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    Jeff, try to spend some time with the MM if you can ... I really think you'll be impressed. I or no one else here need provide any kind of sales job as I think you'll find that files will do all of the talking.

    There's a lot less brittleness to MM files compared to the M8. That means that you'll find quite a bit more detail you can push around. The mid tones on the MM are also in a different league than the M8.

    The files are flexible enough that filters aren't a necessity. Again, because there is so much latitude in the raw files I'm of the belief that you can impact the file in post just as easy with contrast through a program like Lightroom. I purchased red, yellow and orange filters but have used them once. They take away my flexibility in Lightroom. I've used an ND filter more recently when I'm dealing with the direct equatorial sun here in the Philippines. The most important advice I can give anyone shooting with the MM is to underexpose to prevent blown highlights.

    In EFX2 there is a structure slider that is similar to the clarity slider in Lightroom ... it just sort of amplifies the detail. Too much detracts from the image, but it can provide a little bit more dimensionality if applied carefully.

    It seems counter-intuitive to recommend any new camera that includes an LCD from the age of Pong and without any of the other improvements of the new M ... but boy does the camera just grab you once you start shooting with it.

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    Wonderful series, Kurt...I love the moments aand people that you have captured, and there's really magic in your images...

    Ed, I love how you are imaging with the M, and the positions that you are using for the figures in your compositions...

    Vivek, congrats on the MM, and lovely snaps.
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    Good stuff, Kurt, and nice to know that things can be kept simple with filters. I still fear not having use of color channels in PP, but that's probably something that I'd learn to work with, just like anything else.

    I think I'll look into rental, preferring to have complete info before committing to the next gear phase. I'm not one to readily change equipment, not until I perceive a real need or else sense an opportunity for something that can improve my work. The M8 has taken me on a good journey, but the time is ripe for some exploration.

    Again, many thanks.

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    Thanks to you all for your kind words on my prior photos....

    I am delving into old lenses with a sense of adventure....

    Here are a couple of more:
    Jupiter 3:


    Canon 85 mm f/1.8 LTM


    Nikkor S.C 50 mm f/1.4 LTM






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    Nikkor 50 mm f/2 LTM
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    Quote Originally Posted by erudolph View Post
    In the corridor at Davies Symphony Hall. 50mm cron, yellow filter, ISO 500.

    I am so enjoying the variety of looks shown here. As much as I enjoy the higher key images, I find myself making moodier ones.
    Ed: Very nice, reduced and thoughtful composition plus content and mood. Like it very much!
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    Kurt: Wonderful portraits in the first series - and your sense for the decisive moment in your street scenes is absolutely admirable.

    Personal favorites are the second to last (with the child peeping thru the planks) and the last one, splendid!
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    Ashwin, superb set as usual, the last one is a winner!
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    My MM arrives next week. Hope to add images 1/2 as fine as what I'm seeing here, and they went a long way to sell me on the MM. best.....Peter
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    Kurt,

    Nicely done! What lens are you using for portraits?

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    some recent shots...





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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Thanks to you all for your kind words on my prior photos....

    I am delving into old lenses with a sense of adventure....

    Here are a couple of more:
    These portraits are wonderful!Even better, I have those Nikon lenses! I'm going to give it a try this weekend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    mmbma, That is a brave thing to do! Do you have any filters for that monster?

    In my sample the focus is off thanks to a local repair genius.
    It's not as unweildy as I thought it would be. After 30 minutes it feels natural. Sorry to hear your incident with the repair guru. I used Bald Mountains and it worked out great.

    No filters, it was a very gloomy and flat day and I wished I had an orange filter. But the Mono was able to pull out the contrast without looking harsh with minimal post processing. The lattitude it gives me is simply amazing.

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    Kurt, these are very special. Some of the best frames I have seen from the MM. Toning is fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtKamka View Post
    More wonderful photo's Kurt, but this one bowls me over. It's an incredible moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KurtKamka View Post
    The great thing about a camera like the MM is that if that is the way you like to work, the possibilities are endless.
    I agree.
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    Kurt killer stuff, another good series ashwin, Dave love all of the last 3 and sorry if I left anyone out because the work in this thread from everyone is so inspiring.
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    Waiting for takeoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnygoesdigital View Post
    Kurt,

    Nicely done! What lens are you using for portraits?
    It's the 50lux ASPH.

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    In Golden Gate Park. This echoes a 40x30" photo print that my wife bought years ago. Now yellowed, it had once hung in a railroad station. In it, a man stood in the hollowed base of a giant redwood tree in Muir Woods. He leaned his head on his hand, possibly to stabilize himself for a long exposure. His expression was both happy and amused, happy to be there and also having an idea of what the result would look like.

    50mm Summicron, yellow filter.

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    20130306-L2002729-Edit-2.jpg by Ed Rudolph, on Flickr[/IMG]
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Vivek, congrats on the MM, and lovely snaps.
    Thanks, Ashwin.

    I am off for a week and might post some images from there if I find anytime to take pics after I am back.

    Here is another snap from the lovely Jupiter-3.


    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
    Leica MM, Jupiter-3 5cm f/1.5, f/1.5, 1/60s, ISO320, Mixed lighting

    I managed to "fix" a set of color filters in 40.5mm thread size (yellow, orange, red, and a couple of IR filters). A strong UV/IR cut filter also is going to be quite useful. The M Rokker 40/2 mount is now trimmed to bring up the 35mm frame lines.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

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    Hi - I'm really glad you're pleased with your new camera
    Kurt - so many wonderful images
    Ashwin - great shots

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff S View Post
    In the meantime, my next objective was to test the new M. IQ, both b/w and color, will be paramount, and if that holds I welcome the weather sealing, quieter shutter, faster processing and longer battery life, 2m frame lines and the possibility for longer lenses. But none of that matters if the IQ isn't sufficient for my needs and preferences.

    Now you've gone and complicated my thought process.

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    I've anguished so long over this - i had a Monochrom fo 6 months, I loved it and it taught me a lot, nowadays I shoot much more B&W. But but but . . . I also like to shoot colour.
    Personally I found it really tricky to swap between a colour body and a monochrome body - the lens was always on the wrong camera, and I ended up worrying about what I was shooting with rather than what I was shooting.

    For me (and of course it's personal) I like to shoot with two M bodies, one with a wide, one with a standard or medium telephoto . . . and I like the option to take colour photos.

    I think the crux of the matter (and of course it's personal) is that if you're going to shoot exclusively black and white, then the monochrom is a complete no-brainer, but if you aren't . . . . . then it isn't!

    FWIW the M makes lovely black and white photos - perhaps not to 10,000 ISO, but certainly to 6400. They convert well and are really flexible. Of course, you don't quite get the magnificent detail of the MM . . . but you get a nicer shutter noise!


    50 summicron at f2, 3200 ISO M

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Hi Jono, Thanks!

    I said this a while back and I say it again, the MM is the best digital RF cam from Leica to date. The camera is so fine (Only 2 days and ~100 shots) that I will work towards getting a back up. No, I am neither rich nor crazy.

    There will be no banding like in your M shot, as you know. The dark noise in MM files is just simply fabulous. The grain, oh, I simply have to push the camera at as high an ISO as possible just to get them in a frame!
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