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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    I agree Vivek. The MM is a truly great camera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post

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    I've anguished so long over this - i had a Monochrom fo 6 months, I loved it and it taught me a lot, nowadays I shoot much more B&W. But but but . . . I also like to shoot colour.
    Personally I found it really tricky to swap between a colour body and a monochrome body - the lens was always on the wrong camera, and I ended up worrying about what I was shooting with rather than what I was shooting.

    For me (and of course it's personal) I like to shoot with two M bodies, one with a wide, one with a standard or medium telephoto . . . and I like the option to take colour photos.

    I think the crux of the matter (and of course it's personal) is that if you're going to shoot exclusively black and white, then the monochrom is a complete no-brainer, but if you aren't . . . . . then it isn't!

    FWIW the M makes lovely black and white photos - perhaps not to 10,000 ISO, but certainly to 6400. They convert well and are really flexible. Of course, you don't quite get the magnificent detail of the MM . . . but you get a nicer shutter noise!
    Jono, you practically stole my thoughts; before my discussion with Kurt on this thread, I was waiting to try the M for the exact reasons you articulated. In fact, I probably have some posts on LUF with most of your rationale.

    I'm not an early adopter, so I planned to wait to test the M by renting one in 6 months or so and making some prints. The question now is whether I should rent an MM in advance so that I have a basis for comparison later. That's probably the wise choice, but may complicate the decision process, too.

    In film days, I was happy to just carry Tri-X (to process and print in my darkroom), and only load color if I had a special need. But digital opened a new world of color, with the now obvious flexibility to change modes as desired. In the end, if the M is close enough in IQ to the MM for b/w, and meets or exceeds the M9 color output, then that's likely the way I'll go. I really would like weather sealing, quiet shutter, long battery life, etc, but not at the expense of IQ (I don't care much about high ISO; ASA 400 was fine for decades). We'll see; in the meantime I'm happily shooting away with my two M8.2s (sometimes with a different lens on each, much like you describe, and sometimes just one at a time to shoot b/w or color as I see fit).

    Thanks for your observations, and for your continuing to post lots of useful pics and info here and elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    The grain, oh, I simply have to push the camera at as high an ISO as possible just to get them in a frame!
    That's actually a concern for me. I like a bit of grain (ages using Tri-X), and don't shoot super high ISO (which would reduce the dynamic range of the MM). If I rent the MM for testing, I'll experiment with the grain control in LR 4, to see what effect that has.

    Or, maybe I'll just embrace a different look. That's the beauty of trying something new.

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    Dreaming with 35mm fle



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    Street Wedding with 35 fle and Zeiss 25 2.8



















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    Bangkok Railway Station with 21mm 3.4









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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff S View Post
    That's actually a concern for me. I like a bit of grain (ages using Tri-X), and don't shoot super high ISO (which would reduce the dynamic range of the MM). If I rent the MM for testing, I'll experiment with the grain control in LR 4, to see what effect that has.

    Or, maybe I'll just embrace a different look. That's the beauty of trying something new.

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    Jeff, Not Tri-X but more like Delta 3200 grain. Really fine and without the loss of details (equates to DR) like most digital cams.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

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    Waiting for takeoff

    130306-untitled-002 by oakhill947, on Flickr

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    I can hardly believe how fast and far the post work with this camera has progressed already.

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    MM + the King (Bokeh, that is)

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    Shooting my 24mm Summilux at near-dusk, even ISO 1250 had plenty of light shot wide open. With a fast lens the MM really can see in the dark.

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    Got inspired by Ashwin's portraits with the Nikkor S.C. 50mm 1.4. So I took mine out for a spin in Soho. Minimal post, just some contrast and and vignette






    Love that glow
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    Impromptu shots of my daughter just before I tore down the lights and packed up! M Monochrom, 90 Summicron APO ASPH @ f16
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

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    Impromptu shots of my daughter just before I tore down the lights and packed up! M Monochrom, 90 Summicron APO ASPH @ f16
    Lovely tonality.
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    MM + Nocti f.95 + .9 ND.

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    MM + 18mm super elmar + orange filter.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Same

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    MM + 135 four frames stitched. This is a marvelous lens. Too bad that it's so hard to use. This is a new header for my blog.

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    More snow. MM + 18mm Super Elmar + Orange filter. Two frames stitched in PS. The MM's resolution is a real plus in extreme stitches: I had to use an extreme perspective correction in post - effectively stretching the top of the stitched image - there are enough pixels that the image didn't break up.

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    couple of SF pictures with the 90mm Summicron

    "Transamerica", or (see large image) life is good without moire!



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    "Bored in Chinatown", love those midtones! (focus not great)



    "Lean and Shoot"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Woody Campbell View Post
    Lovely tonality.
    Thanks Woody!!

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    Great stuff, mmbma, woody, and wentbackward.....

    THe portraits with the 90 cron and nikkor show the scope of the camera, in different hands, wiht different lenses and processing. Most impressive, fellas!
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    thanks Ashwin. love the classic lenses on the Mono.

    My daughter and mother in law, 50mm Nikkor s.c. 1600 iso
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Great stuff, mmbma, woody, and wentbackward.....

    THe portraits with the 90 cron and nikkor show the scope of the camera, in different hands, wiht different lenses and processing. Most impressive, fellas!
    +1. Many impressive images and it's lovely to see the different styles of post processing the MM images. Truly appreciate this thread and the effort involved.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Enjoying the MM, just some snaps

    90 Elmar-C on the MM (looks like it'll be a nice travel lens, sharp for tele-work and nice for portraits)



    And a little more bokeh with the 85 mm f/1.8 LTM
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    LOL! You seem to be surrounded by fun people, Ash... or is that just you rubbing off on them?
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Quote Originally Posted by ashwinrao1 View Post
    Great stuff, mmbma, woody, and wentbackward.....

    THe portraits with the 90 cron and nikkor show the scope of the camera, in different hands, wiht different lenses and processing. Most impressive, fellas!
    Yes! Vastly different styles and looks, the variety is wonderful. Your own portraits too Ashwin, always seem to capture fun (and occasionally odd) moments!

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    Thanks guys for the nice pics shared here...

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Looking at the snaps in this thread makes me want to buy a Leica MM..
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    Hi David, yes, I am a lucky guy to be surrounded by so many wonderful people! I am glad that they don't mind me aiming the camera their way...for the most part
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    Quote Originally Posted by RVB View Post
    Looking at the snaps in this thread makes me want to buy a Leica MM..
    It's a camera worth looking at, and constant companion over the past 6 months...
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    I haven't shot anything lately for myself. Busy shooting for work. Been busy mounting, matting and framing and I'm so sick of it.....

    Had lunch with a good bud today and I took this.
    I think this illustrates the range of the MM . Very fast edit.
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    Nice grain! May i ask what was the ISO here? To me these kinds of shots are only possible with the Mono (perhaps the new M). High ISO plus fast glass plus discretion and portability!

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    Nice grain! May i ask what was the ISO here? To me these kinds of shots are only possible with the Mono (perhaps the new M). High ISO plus fast glass plus discretion and portability!
    ISO 8000, 50mm Summicron, unsure of f/stop

    i didn't do any noise reduction on this.
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    Someone I feel very close to... for a reason.

    MM & Nocti f/0.95

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    Someone I feel very close to... for a reason.

    MM & Nocti f/0.95

    Why develop the skin tones so far to the right?

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    Why develop the skin tones so far to the right?
    Why not? I like it.
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    OK, I'll jump in with my day old mono. Zeiss 21/2.8


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    Congrats!!!!!

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    Thanks very much!

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    Thanks very much!
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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    It's living up to expectations, set very high by the images I had seen from it here and elsewhere. I think it may be more particular about lenses than the M9. For instance, my first shots were with a v4 50 pre asph that rendered very well, and was very sharp on my M9, and M7. Especially at 1.4 it was noticeably softer than I expected, even 2-2.8. I thought the RF might need adjusting. Then I used the 50 lux asph and it absolutely sings on the mono, even at 1.4 incredibly sharp and rich, with noticeably higher resolution than the M9. So the sensor gets the best of of what the lens gives it, but accurately displays flaws. The malleability of the files is obvious as soon as you work with them, such a high DR. Files at 3200 are much cleaner and retain more detail than the M9 at 1250.
    I know the M has lot's to commend it, but my first impression is the mono has delivered the true potential of the classic leica. Extreme simplicity, not even the "complication" of color. Exquisite image quality, with an iso range that allows it to capture that moment pretty much regardless of lighting. It has a finer finish than the M9 so feels more like shooting a film MP. Guess I kind of like it so far!!

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    The images from this camera are truly amazing! If ever I had camera-lust, it's for the M Monochrom. On my last visit to my Leica dealer I had hoped he'd have this but he only had the new M, which was nice but, meh, I want the Monochrom!!!

    Keep the great captures coming!

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    Welcome, Peter and M.T.

    Gotta say that I continue to love the camera and grow with it, and I am sure that you'll enjoy it as well...it's an amazing tool for the discriminating BW photog....it's hard to go back to other cameras for color conversion, having enjoyed these files regularly....

    Herea are a few with:

    35 LUX ASPH PRE-FLE






    CANON 85 MM f/1.8




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    Nice Ashwin and I love my 35 Lux Fle...
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    It's living up to expectations, set very high by the images I had seen from it here and elsewhere. I think it may be more particular about lenses than the M9. For instance, my first shots were with a v4 50 pre asph that rendered very well, and was very sharp on my M9, and M7. Especially at 1.4 it was noticeably softer than I expected, even 2-2.8. I thought the RF might need adjusting. Then I used the 50 lux asph and it absolutely sings on the mono, even at 1.4 incredibly sharp and rich, with noticeably higher resolution than the M9. So the sensor gets the best of of what the lens gives it, but accurately displays flaws. The malleability of the files is obvious as soon as you work with them, such a high DR. Files at 3200 are much cleaner and retain more detail than the M9 at 1250.
    I know the M has lot's to commend it, but my first impression is the mono has delivered the true potential of the classic leica. Extreme simplicity, not even the "complication" of color. Exquisite image quality, with an iso range that allows it to capture that moment pretty much regardless of lighting. It has a finer finish than the M9 so feels more like shooting a film MP. Guess I kind of like it so far!!

    I so agree with everything you've written. I have never had a digital camera that fit my vision as well as this and the 35 Lux FLE. I find I start getting depressed when I can't get out and shoot with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airfrogusmc View Post
    I so agree with everything you've written. I have never had a digital camera that fit my vision as well as this and the 35 Lux FLE. I find I start getting depressed when I can't get out and shoot with it.
    I hear you!
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    I hear you!
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    Just to show what I mean about the 50 lux asph, and high iso. This is iso 3200, 1/60, 2.8.
    No sharpening, no noise reduction, cropped, size reduced without any output sharpening. I shot a nikon D3 for years, and a D800E briefly, not sure I ever saw this clean an image at 3200 with this detail.

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