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    Quote Originally Posted by D&A View Post
    The moment I saw this image I immediately thought "Norman Rockwell" written all over it! That girl, that dress, that puffy jacket on top of her dress along with her apparent wonderment in staring at the poster (in front of her)! Great Capture!

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    But the word HENRI, was the Leica in house code name for the Monochrom camera prior to launch.

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    Attachment 70967 Double click to enlarge.
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    It was +4 deg C with winds.


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    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
    Leica MM, Leitz Elmar 90/4, The Hague

    Added especially for Dave (D&A), me chimping a parody of a local artist by another local artist:


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    Attachment 70967 Double click to enlarge.
    Just out of curiosity, what made you decide to title the above photo "Bearded Man?"
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    Well, shall I call this "Goose and a Crow" ?


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    i'm liking this camera! you?
    You bet. Much more than I expected. Too little time to shoot though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by algrove View Post
    But the word HENRI, was the Leica in house code name for the Monochrom camera prior to launch.
    Yeah I saw that I and for sure couldn't pass it up. Reading the menu at Henri's taken with the Henri....
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    Quote Originally Posted by D&A View Post
    The moment I saw this image I immediately thought "Norman Rockwell" written all over it! That girl, that dress, that puffy jacket on top of her dress along with her apparent wonderment in staring at the poster (in front of her)! Great Capture!

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    Thanks Dave....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    woody is an up-town boy;. i'm 50% brooklyn, 50% downtown, of course a transplant from oregon
    LOL, it's all relative. Years ago when working on a major project in NYC and vacinity photographing workers in industrial setting much like yours (with a Leica RF and B&W film of course)this New Yorker (originally from the Bronx and the Island) would be confronted by the those in the factories and they would detect I was from the suburbs due to my mannerismsand maybe the look of wonderment in my eye.

    Yet my cousins from Long Island, 45 minutes away would refer to me as the "City Slicker". Guess no matter where ones from, culturally they can be looked upon in many different ways.

    Hey this city fella still stops and stares at cows in the pasture. Now realizing milk comes from them, not the shelf in the supermarket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airfrogusmc View Post
    Thanks Dave....
    You're welcome. All she needed was a ice cream cone in her hand, slightly dripping while she starred straight ahead and the illusion of a Norman Rockwell image would have been complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Colson View Post
    You bet. Much more than I expected. Too little time to shoot though.

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    One day my prince....um I mean my monochrom will come. The question is when...LOL, enjoying this thread emensely in addition to having the opportunity to shoot the monochrom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D&A View Post
    You're welcome. All she needed was a ice cream cone in her hand, slightly dripping while she starred straight ahead and the illusion of a Norman Rockwell image would have been complete.

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    Unfortunately even if she would have had one its been to cold around her to melt anything. We are getting just a taste of spring today but this is really the first we've seen of anything that remotely looks like it.

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    But the word HENRI, was the Leica in house code name for the Monochrom camera prior to launch.
    Lou, that didn't escape me, being well aware of the "HENRI" connection in the image....but the strength of the image I believe to most (hopefully so), was the Norman Rockwell-ish elements that comprised the image. Where the viewing public might recognize this, only Leicafiles would connect with the "HENRI" aspect.

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    Dave, I am none of those and not a clue who/what HENRI is. Could you give a web link to the picture you allude to and how that relates to the picture you commented on? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airfrogusmc View Post
    Unfortunately even if she would have had one its been to cold around her to melt anything. We are getting just a taste of spring today but this is really the first we've seen of anything that remotely looks like it.
    We've had a long cold winter back east too but today is definitely spring-like and the Blooming of the National Cherry Blossom trees can't be far behind.

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    Dave, I am none of those and not a clue who/what HENRI is. Could you give a web link to the picture you allude to and how that relates to the picture you commented on? Thanks.
    Heres the photo that I took that has the Leica MM reference.
    http://www.getdpi.com/forum/502417-post1433.html

    Henri is what the Leica MM is referred to and that because of Henri Cartier-Bresson a Leica champion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D&A View Post
    Lou, that didn't escape me, being well aware of the "HENRI" connection in the image....but the strength of the image I believe to most (hopefully so), was the Norman Rockwell-ish elements that comprised the image. Where the viewing public might recognize this, only Leicafiles would connect with the "HENRI" aspect.

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    Ok, thought you would have known. Agree with the NR elements to image. It's just that the spelling gave it away to me as being French and then HCB came to mind tout de suite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airfrogusmc View Post
    Heres the photo that I took that has the Leica MM reference.
    http://www.getdpi.com/forum/502417-post1433.html

    Henri is what the Leica MM is referred to and that because of Henri Cartier-Bresson a Leica champion.
    Thanks, Dave. i figured that out. The other name drop and how that connects to that photo, I am still confused though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erudolph View Post
    Just out of curiosity, what made you decide to title the above photo "Bearded Man?"
    So I could find the file easily again. He's actually a gold miner.

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    Thanks, Dave. i figured that out. The other name drop and how that connects to that photo, I am still confused though.
    You mean when I referenced the name "Norman Rockwell" to the image everyone refers to as "HENRI"? Norman Rockwell" was a quintessential American illustrator for the Saturday evening Post. His illustrations depicted everyday people in typical everyday type situations that we're all seen in and settings that for many was the essence of everyday American life in the 40's, 50's and 60's Typical Americana as some have referred to it. Many times the illustration is a shown as a slight exaggeration of a person or seen that is all too familiar to most of us.

    A google or other appropriate search will reveal a lot more.

    The image posted here on Getdpi, shows a young girl in puffy dress wearing a equally puffy overcoat and we see her from behind in what appears to the/her everyday curiosity we often see in such situations. It's not only her mannerisms and stance but her clothes as described and I have often seen similar Norman Rockwell illustrations,with similar individuals where their clothes are not only depicted in a similar fashion, but a sort of similar situation. Hope that gives some idea of my reference and it's relationship to the image.

    Now onto the Ashwin image I referenced by naming Renoir an obscure little known artist. Maybe some have heard of him.....LOL!

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    Thanks, Dave. i will look up up who this Renoir is as well.

    Your creative thinking is making me look up these little known names.

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    Norman Rockwell in his sort of very innocent style also stereotypes everyday American culture, especially in the era's I mentioned (early and mid 20th century). He was an illustrator and once you look on the web for his most well know images, I think you'll have a good idea of what I am referring to. I'm sure many others here can do a better job explaining Norman Rockwell than I can. He a humorist and often humanizes the way he depicts his scene.

    Whether it's the child in the dentist chair, the little boy looking up and the big heavy policeman, the little girl eating her melting ice cream cone with her little dog next to her looking at it drip with puppy dog eyes...these images of course can be universal but he often Americanizes many of them with objects that signify America...such as the American flag or some other identifiable object. Sometimes it's simply the person or scene that stereotypes what most upon first glance would say "that's typical America or American.

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    Dave I thought you were talking about an unknown Norman Rockwell. Now, that you gone in to so much description (I appreciate that), I am at a loss to see any connection whatsoever to his illustrations and Allen's photo. Faces and expressions are a key element in Norman Rockwell's illustrations, if i understand it correctly.

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    Dave I thought you were talking about an unknown Norman Rockwell. Now, that you gone in to so much description (I appreciate that), I am at a loss to see any connection whatsoever to his illustrations and Allen's photo. Faces and expressions are a key element in Norman Rockwell's illustrations, if i understand it correctly.
    Yes, correct. faces & expressions were a key feature of Rockwell's illustrations (but not always) but almost equally important was both the garb (clothes) the person was wearing (many times it's appearance or style exaggerated) as was the body posture or positioning of the individual. As you correctly stated, the viewer cannot see the face of the girl in Allen's photo, unfortunately, but her dress and overcoat in my opinion almost looks exaggerated in the style I'd often see illustrated by Norman Rockwell, along with her almost innocence or possibly wonderment at what she was staring at.

    Not what I was exactly looking for, but at 2:45am here and exhausted...I quickly grabbed this Rockwell image (see the link provided)

    Link----> http://web.pdx.edu/~sew/picture.html

    of a man who's back is to the viewer, staring at a painting. Sort of the same concept. The man in the image is quizzical about the painting he's looking at (similar to the girl in Allen's photo) and the man is also is illustrated with a unique posture.

    I'll have to find a Rockwell image with a girl in a puffy dress and overcoat which will further illustrate my point.

    Maybe it's much like seeing a serene scene of a waterway and a certain type of boat (or party boat full of individuals) meandering off the shore. Just maybe all the elements present themselves in such a way that someone exclaims "Renoir". They immediately make the connection as I did in Ashwin's extremely fine photo...but others may or may not identify or notice this connection. Just an analogy of what I was trying to get at in Allen's image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D&A View Post
    You mean when I referenced the name "Norman Rockwell" to the image everyone refers to as "HENRI"? Norman Rockwell" was a quintessential American illustrator for the Saturday evening Post. His illustrations depicted everyday people in typical everyday type situations that we're all seen in and settings that for many was the essence of everyday American life in the 40's, 50's and 60's Typical Americana as some have referred to it. Many times the illustration is a shown as a slight exaggeration of a person or seen that is all too familiar to most of us.

    A google or other appropriate search will reveal a lot more.

    The image posted here on Getdpi, shows a young girl in puffy dress wearing a equally puffy overcoat and we see her from behind in what appears to the/her everyday curiosity we often see in such situations. It's not only her mannerisms and stance but her clothes as described and I have often seen similar Norman Rockwell illustrations,with similar individuals where their clothes are not only depicted in a similar fashion, but a sort of similar situation. Hope that gives some idea of my reference and it's relationship to the image.

    Now onto the Ashwin image I referenced by naming Renoir an obscure little known artist. Maybe some have heard of him.....LOL!

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    Thanks Dave. Your words are very kind and I am humbled and honored to be in the same paragraph with those two artists .

    Speaking of Renoir I just watched a movie his son Jean "The Grand Illusion". Jean was an amazing film maker.

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    Well, shall I call this "Goose and a Crow" ?
    Well I'm not sure what you should call it but while we're on the topic of animals, your privious image of the woman starring at the back of her Nikon camera could be entitled "Chimp-ing"....LOL!

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    Well I'm not sure what you should call it but while we're on the topic of animals, your privious image of the woman starring at the back of her Nikon camera could be entitled "Chimp-ing"....LOL!

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    At least some do take their camera out even in freezing weather and make some snaps.

    Thank you for your thoughtful suggestion, Dave!

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    Thanks Dave. Your words are very kind and I am humbled and honored to be in the same paragraph with those two artists .

    Speaking of Renoir I just watched a movie his son Jean "The Grand Illusion". Jean was an amazing film maker.
    Wow, his son is a film maker? That's quite interesting, I didn't know that but believe I saw that film many years ago. Definitely worth another look. Guess artistic genes do run in a family.

    I hope no one minds my expressing my own personal feeling about B&W imagery in general, some of which was derived from earlier training. If relates to the two images I just previously noted but if it's better to post elsewhere, please let me know.

    What I find interesting about the B&W medium in general as opposed to color, is B&W is stripped bare of the color element which by it's vary nature can draw a viewer into an image...even though the subject matter may or may not hold interest or is well composed. For example, say a mundane building, brown or gray color building is photographed, it may say nothing and hold little interest.... but the same mundane building in pink may make a terrific photograph, especially if the building is a conservative run of the mill building that no one in a million years expects to see in "pink".

    In contrast (no pun intended), although B&W images can often rely on tonality or texture, often times to be a successful image, it's content alone must be strong. It doesn't have color by which we're conditioned to see in everyday things, in order to draw the viewing into the image...so it 's content often has to be especially strong to be successful. Strong doesn't necessarily have to relate to drama or serious, it can be humorous, satirical or simply relate to a scene of everyday life for us to relate to...but it has to be strong in one or more of these categories in order not to loose the viewers interest.

    (recent edit)-->Think of the movies in the silent era and the "missing element" and how it relates to B&W imagery. The reason the actors and actresses relied on exaggerated facial expressions and body language, was in order to replace/substitute the missing elements of sound and speech with which we ordinarily connect to in everyday life. If they didn't present these missing elements or did so in a very unconvincing way, that particular silent film probably wouldn't succeed and seen by many as boring. Sort of the same analogy could be applied to B&W imagery. By removing the color element, the focus now is on content and both how strong it is and the way it's presented.

    Sometimes I'm bemused by those that simply turn their color images in to B&W or take B&W photo's and think by the very nature of the B&W medium, that it instantly turns the image into an artistic one. In my opinion and to the contrary, it often weakens it, as little or no thought is given as to why on many levels, the image to others might hold little or no interest, other than the color element has been removed. It therefore needs those elements by which I just mentioned to provide it the "lift" of creative content in order for it be a successful B&W to a wider range audience. This explanation is of course an oversimplification. I found both that image of Ashwin's as well as Allen's to strongly hold some of the key elements which make a successful and interesting B&W image...as have other B&W images posted in this monochrom thread.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Dave, sometimes a picture is worth more than a few hundred thousand words to illustrate your points. I can not understand most of what you are saying.
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    Dave, sometimes a picture is worth more than a few hundred thousand words to illustrate your points. I can not understand most of what you are saying.
    Neither can most people who know me well...LOL!

    By the way, after you kindly responded to my post (above) I added a additional paragraph relating B&W imagery to the silent era of films and why without sound, how the actors etc. had to compensate for the missing element.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D&A View Post
    Well I'm not sure what you should call it but while we're on the topic of animals, your privious image of the woman starring at the back of her Nikon camera could be entitled "Chimp-ing"....LOL!

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    You know Vivek, after my posting regarding the image of yours of the woman "chimping:...I realized I was so focused on her chimping and your previous image on the animals...that there is even a stronger element in that image. You're right, that woman bundled up and is out taking pictures and braving the cold while the image on her shopping bag seems to be an picture of a lightly clothed woman enjoy what appears to be a warm and possibly sunny environment. Had you noticed this when taking your shot and if so...very cleaver!

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    Untitled by Vivek Iyer, on Flickr
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    The "eyes" have it in this image The stares of everyone including the rabbit makes this image for me and one could probably think of a dozen interesting captions or explanations of what the rabbit is thinking...LOL!

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Quote Originally Posted by D&A View Post
    You know Vivek, after my posting regarding the image of yours of the woman "chimping:...I realized I was so focused on her chimping and your previous image on the animals...that there is even a stronger element in that image. You're right, that woman bundled up and is out taking pictures and braving the cold while the image on her shopping bag seems to be an picture of a lightly clothed woman enjoy what appears to be a warm and possibly sunny environment. Had you noticed this when taking your shot and if so...very cleaver!

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    Yes and to me and in my opinion thats what great street work is about. Things like repeating shapes, leading lines, tone and interesting juxtapositions as in this case and when it shows up consistently in someones work as it did in say Bressons work it becomes a way of seeing.

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    Birding without the DSLR and 300/2.8! 28 cron, cropped of course......Peter
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    out of some images I took at the weekend with the MM this one wasnt the sharpest but I like it. MM with 50 Summicron.
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    after some struggling with crappy light, a good one of one of my pals
    75 cron, f2
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    Children's Creativity Center, Yerba Buena Guardens, SF

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    Re: Fun with the Leica M Monochrom

    Evening stroll through Columbia campus








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    My first visit at the Leica Store, and the guy told me I can try some of their lenses. Instinctively I asked if they have the 28mm Summicron F2 ASPH.

    My first encounter with the 28mm, hopefully not the last! And looking back, it was most likely a big mistake visiting the Leica Store...









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    The new MS optical 50mm 1.1 A little night hawk this, with the Monochrom

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