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It's a sign. One thing I've learned as I approach fifty is that gut feel is pretty darned accurate. Very accurate in fact.We ended up not doing the deal today to give him more time to think about if he could live with the imperfection; and I realized that it's probably a sign. I was on the fence and yesterday Jono's pictures from the M240 pushed me over. Now I think if it's probably a rushed decision.
Blind tests are actually bordering on being a scam ... as any marketing researcher will tell you, who you select to do the testing with determines the outcome. It all depends on the sophistication of the test subject in the given field being compared side-by-side. They do not select people with discriminating and refined palates for Coke verses Pepsi taste tests, or any other culinary comparison.To me, that camera is bordering on a scam. In a blind test, one could never guess which is from a color sensor or from the monochom.
I wouldn't regret selling it.
It might very well be "bordering on a scam" because of the enhanced price (in reality, no considering there is no similar product out there for a full frame camera) but you have to be blind not to see the difference.To me, that camera is bordering on a scam. In a blind test, one could never guess which is from a color sensor or from the monochom.
:ROTFL:Really a function of ones personal visual acuity....once you pass the third decade it is a bit of a guess...or stay below 35 and zone focus.
Bob
As I said before I was on the fence too.It will probably have a much longer life span because of its uniqueness, and passionate following.
It's funny, I was meeting with another member from the forum today to sell my Mono, and he saw a single tiny scuff on the lens release button, probably a nail mark, that I did not notice. We ended up not doing the deal today to give him more time to think about if he could live with the imperfection; and I realized that it's probably a sign. I was on the fence and yesterday Jono's pictures from the M240 pushed me over. Now I think if it's probably a rushed decision.
I would honor my commitment if he decide to take it but if not, i will not try to sell it again.
Yeah I kinda think that guy is either a Leica Troll or a Leica conspiracy theorist... He kinda pulled this "it's all a scam thing" with the Leica M-E newspaper article. I think he needs attention or just wants to stir people up personally.Doesnt the MM make good shots at ISO 10,000 the M9 cannot do that , lord knos my M8 cant, it only goes to ISO 2500!
OK here we go:
Red Dot Forum - ISO Test: Leica M Monochrom vs. Leica M9
You don't even own it.To me, that camera is bordering on a scam. In a blind test, one could never guess which is from a color sensor or from the monochom.
I wouldn't regret selling it.
Spending 7000$ on it might give me a super special subjective power to see how good it is. But since I don't own it, I can safely say that I'm objective a out it. Not subjective as you are, if you own one.You don't even own it.
Well, in a blind test, you could not tell the difference between a Monochrom and a chicken. You really need vision. The only problem with your hypothoses is that the Monochrom actually has a different spectral response from a color camera. Also, it will give cleaner files as the photosites are getting more light. While you might not be able to tell, which is really a lack of experience on your part, that does not mean others that actually have experience cannot.
LOL. So lets see, you have taken a subjective way to evaluate a camera to make your opinion objective? But the trouble is you simply don't know. You have no experience and so you simply have the personal opinion of an armchair warrior. But you do have a chip on your shoulder, which naturally is very "objective."Spending 7000$ on it might give me a super special subjective power to see how good it is. But since I don't own it, I can safely say that I'm objective a out it. Not subjective as you are, if you own one.
Until now, there's not one single image from all the "brag about your monochrom" threads that made me want one. I looked at over 3000 images and not even one made me go "wow, this monochrom is something special".
I don't believe that paying 7k$ just to have my BW mindset on is within the realm of normal thinking.
This being said, I was simply answering the OP: I'd nevdr regret selling that camera at a good price. Especially sknce the M10 is right around the corner. Yes, M10. Not M-twoforty.
Yes. I decided to keep it. I'll just work over time for two months to justify the decisionIt's a sign. One thing I've learned as I approach fifty is that gut feel is pretty darned accurate. Very accurate in fact.
I gave up my MM recently so that I could get a new tech camera lens. I WILL buy one though.
How else am I supposed to be interested if not by looking at the forums and pictures?LOL. So lets see, you have taken a subjective way to evaluate a camera to make your opinion objective? But the trouble is you simply don't know. You have no experience and so you simply have the personal opinion of an armchair warrior. But you do have a chip on your shoulder, which naturally is very "objective."
Good luck with the M10.
Chill man, I am just messing with you. I really don't think much about your opinion at all. Naturally, the OP wanted feedback from those with experience, but a guy like you doesn't need to be encumbered by facts.How else am I supposed to be interested if not by looking at the forums and pictures?
Please don't waste your energy trying to convert me.
This is a problem in these internet days: every product owner becomes a virtual salesman for the company, in various forums. Like some people here trying to make me realize how good it is.
Your "armchair" allegations just show how empty and funny your atracks are. If you knew who I am, who I work for and where my work goes and how much it sells for, you'd be asking me for help instead of being busy protecting your purchase in a cool way in front of virtual friends.
And what's the so big deal if I don't "see" the value in the monochrom? Why do you have the need to protect it so much??