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Apparently there is a campaign going on demanding that Leica bring back the CCD to their M line and drop the CMOS sensors!
Anyone for it?
Anyone for it?
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Tom, It is not a simple case of IQ, it seems. In your experience, do the Mandler lenses hold their magic on the new M or the newer design lenses (AA 50/2, AA75/2 and the like) do better?After comparing a M9 and M type 240 for months I finally decided for the new M and believe the CCD vs CMOS question is overrated (Just my opinion). IQ differences in direct comparison seemed to be much smaller and not allways in the same direction as I thought to remember.
I do like the 35FLE, 35/2.0 Summicron asph, the 50 Summicron (not the latest version), the 50 APO Summicron a lot on the "new" M. For some reason I did like the 50/1.4asph better on the M9 but the 50 Summicron better on the M type 240.Tom, It is not a simple case of IQ, it seems. In your experience, do the Mandler lenses hold their magic on the new M or the newer design lenses (AA 50/2, AA75/2 and the like) do better?
What is "better"? How are you evaluating these sorts of differences? Asking if the Mandler lenses "hold their magic on the new M" is like asking whether you prefer the rendering of a lens based on whether you're shooting with Kodachrome or Fujichrome. It doesn't make much sense to me.Tom, It is not a simple case of IQ, it seems. In your experience, do the Mandler lenses hold their magic on the new M or the newer design lenses (AA 50/2, AA75/2 and the like) do better?
I didn't sign it but the M240 in combination with what the A7 series is is why I don't own a Leica anymore. I loved the M9 but I loathed the M240 (albeit in fairness I didn't buy one or live with one for extended periods of time.)Apparently there is a campaign going on demanding that Leica bring back the CCD to their M line and drop the CMOS sensors!
Anyone for it?
I do as well even though I never owned one. Maybe I will someday though. I couldn't justify a grayscale camera being my main camera at the time but with being ecstatic overall with the FE system I always entertain the thought here and there.Well, I believe that the MM is the best digital M from Leica to date.
I'm on the hook making the decision to either have my M9 sensor replaced or front the exchange money for a new M-P. They won't offer the exchange for a camera they've not even announced yet... ;-)As I am on the fence to buy back into Leica M with either a used M9 or a new M240, after reading this thread I think I will keep my breath for a while and wait for the next generation M240 (M260 or however it will be called).
I am a believer in CMOS and I trust Leica that they will enhance the capabilities of their sensor and processing engine in the next model - keeping resolution increase moderate (maybe around 30MP if at all), improve DR (>14 stops) and high ISO usability (fully useable ISO 6400) plus make the processing lot faster and add a higher resolution EVF option (>2.4MP). At the same time keep all the goodies of the current M240 such as battery life, excellent rangefinder etc. What I would like them to add is ultrasonic sensor cleaning, this cannot be so difficult but is a big advantage while using the camera in the field.
I keep fingers crossed
Godfrey,I'm on the hook making the decision to either have my M9 sensor replaced or front the exchange money for a new M-P. They won't offer the exchange for a camera they've not even announced yet... ;-)
Personally, I've not seen much different between M9 and M typ 240 for my photography with respect to image quality; what I have seen (less moire, more resolution, more sensitivity, easier to process files) seems to be on the side of going for the new camera. Same goes for responsiveness and all the other benefits of the newer model.
My only concern is financial: the M-P will cost me a good bit out of pocket even though Leica's exchange value is quite a fair deal. That and the fact that I still do like the M9 anyway.
I'm going to the store to handle and do some test shots with an M typ 240 today, see if I can come to a decision.
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I think handling both and takin some images is a good idea.I'm on the hook making the decision to either have my M9 sensor replaced or front the exchange money for a new M-P. They won't offer the exchange for a camera they've not even announced yet... ;-)
Personally, I've not seen much different between M9 and M typ 240 for my photography with respect to image quality; what I have seen (less moire, more resolution, more sensitivity, easier to process files) seems to be on the side of going for the new camera. Same goes for responsiveness and all the other benefits of the newer model.
My only concern is financial: the M-P will cost me a good bit out of pocket even though Leica's exchange value is quite a fair deal. That and the fact that I still do like the M9 anyway.
I'm going to the store to handle and do some test shots with an M typ 240 today, see if I can come to a decision.
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