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Vivek
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The dot is for macro and normal settings (RX1's lens also has thissetting).
It is a fixed lens cam.
It is a fixed lens cam.
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What to make of the new Leica slim M?
- Thread starter algrove
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NOT RX2 but Leica x2. The camera based on the x1 (first dx.sized sensor compact camera). I still own and like it for its size, handling and IQ.
bradhusick
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FN - function
Godfrey
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I can focus with an RF a bit faster than the X AF system in some circumstances, but the Face Detect feature is pretty hard to beat when you're shooting fast and loose in lowish light. It's a toss up.
Close focusing with any RF has always been a serious limitation due to both RF accuracy and framing accuracy. The X (and M-P) TTL viewing with Live View is simply the right way to do that, as are SLR bodies.
If it handles as nicely as the X, it will be delightful. I find the X an excellent camera ergonomically in almost all ways. The only minor niggle in handling that some aren't fond of is that location of the aperture ring—they'd prefer it to be around the lens like the M lenses—but I don't find that any problem at all (I don't tend to change aperture all that often that I need it to be on the lens).
It took a little while to get my hands used to the thumbdial on both the X and the M-P; the placement was a tiny bit off for me when I first handled the cameras. But now it feels perfect: my thumb has gotten used to it. The most natural thumbwheel I use is the one on the E-M1, which is simply in the perfect position (even better than the E-1).
The many nuances of camera design... I just wish they'd done this camera with a 50mm lens. Or maybe I don't ... I'm already booked to put out the money for the MM246 when it arrives, why increase the temptation?
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Any hint how it would work? AF/MF, Various modes of shooting I guess. I am not well versed in automatic cameras.
Godfrey
Well-known member
Like with many other modern cameras, there will likely be a menu item that allows you to assign one out of a set of possible functions to the button.
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etrigan63
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Based on the photos I've seen, the auto functions are controlled similar to the X-T1.
To wit:
Set the shutter dial to A + manual aperture = Aperture Priority mode
Set the aperture ring to A + manual shutter speed = Shutter Priority mode
Set both to A = Program mode
Set both to anything but A = Manual mode
PASM without a dedicated dial. No menus needed.
There is a dedicated ISO button + jog wheel/dial on the back.
To wit:
Set the shutter dial to A + manual aperture = Aperture Priority mode
Set the aperture ring to A + manual shutter speed = Shutter Priority mode
Set both to A = Program mode
Set both to anything but A = Manual mode
PASM without a dedicated dial. No menus needed.
There is a dedicated ISO button + jog wheel/dial on the back.
never been to china, or even stayed in china for a bit longer eh?
How about "I want to be a real M" button?
sjg284
Active member
Agreed
Love the X 113 controls.
As close to an M as possible while being extremely light, having AF, etc.
And I'm with you on the 50mm comment.
Too bad this is coming out with a 28mm.
But probably good for me as I've bought too much camera gear the last 18 months...!
Love the X 113 controls.
As close to an M as possible while being extremely light, having AF, etc.
And I'm with you on the 50mm comment.
Too bad this is coming out with a 28mm.
But probably good for me as I've bought too much camera gear the last 18 months...!
I can focus with an RF a bit faster than the X AF system in some circumstances, but the Face Detect feature is pretty hard to beat when you're shooting fast and loose in lowish light. It's a toss up.
Close focusing with any RF has always been a serious limitation due to both RF accuracy and framing accuracy. The X (and M-P) TTL viewing with Live View is simply the right way to do that, as are SLR bodies.
If it handles as nicely as the X, it will be delightful. I find the X an excellent camera ergonomically in almost all ways. The only minor niggle in handling that some aren't fond of is that location of the aperture ring—they'd prefer it to be around the lens like the M lenses—but I don't find that any problem at all (I don't tend to change aperture all that often that I need it to be on the lens).
It took a little while to get my hands used to the thumbdial on both the X and the M-P; the placement was a tiny bit off for me when I first handled the cameras. But now it feels perfect: my thumb has gotten used to it. The most natural thumbwheel I use is the one on the E-M1, which is simply in the perfect position (even better than the E-1).
The many nuances of camera design... I just wish they'd done this camera with a 50mm lens. Or maybe I don't ... I'm already booked to put out the money for the MM246 when it arrives, why increase the temptation?
G
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Vivek
Guest
I think this would have been slim without the lens.
Godfrey
Well-known member
Indeed ... Note that the first digital cameras I recall to use this scheme were the Leica Digilux 2/Panasonic LC1, then the Leica Digilux 3/Panasonic L1, all the X1/X2/X typ 113s, etc. Most of which pre-dated the Fuji X-T1 by a good number of years. ;-)
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etrigan63
Active member
Never said X-T1 was first. As I have no experience with cameras you mentioned, I could not comment with authority on them. In their case, I bow to you Godfrey. On the other hand, as a former X-T1 owner, I can say with confidence that the X-T1 operates this way.
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Vivek
Guest
Regardless of how the Q does, Leica should come out with an interchangeable version of it. They should clearly quote the declining M sales and make a case for a non mechanical mirrorless cam. Hopefully, such a camera will have a swivel LCD to make it more versatile.