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    Clear, hard light. These shots had a lot of DR and the camera handled it.

    28mm Summicron ASPH-M




    50mm AA-M, shot through a somewhat dirty window




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    Re: Kitty POW

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    We think she may be about 5+ months old now, given her arrival at a stage that requires a trip to the vet. Look how small she was when she adopted us in November:

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    Scott, since we are referring to cats, isn't it the human thats a POW? At least thats how they (felines) see it? LOL!

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    Photos that could have been taken with an iPhone but were taken with an SL + 135 Apo-Telyt-M





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    First day playing with the SL & a torture-test scenario: a backlit hummingbird in flight. Sun in my face focussing manually on a hyperkinetic bird's eye in shadow, shadows brought up using ACR's fill light. Little processing aside from fill light, highlight recovery and curves. Eye is in focus, detail and color in the gorget (the red feathers) held up well with significant 'fill light'. This is about 1/3 of the full file. I'm impressed.

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    Re: Leica SL and Macro-Elmarit-R 60

    We're declaring winter at an end here on our hilltop. Flowering trees are doing just that, and the kalaniot (red poppy-like flowers) are appearing.

    L1010536 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

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    My macro 60 was an eBay bargain, doesn't focus past 15 feet, but then the things I point it at are usually closer than that.

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    21mm summilux, iso 3200

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    Having a bit too much fun with my SL:





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    Miscellany

    135mm Apo-Telyt-M, not quite steady, 1/80 @ ISO3200




    50mm Apo-ASPH-M




    Ditto

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    Re: Kitty POW

    L1010574 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

    Tai's back from a small operation, incidentally cracked several bones in her right front paw, but has regained her usual energy level.

    SX 80-R @f/1.4

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    Yesterday, as part of my continuing evaluation of the Leica SL for my use, I visited Colusa National Wildlife Refuge north of Sacramento, what I consider a target-rich environment. I didn't expect great art from this day's photography so I was not disappointed . I wanted to see how the SL's raw files looked in a context I was familiar with when using the DMR and a7II.

    In a nutshell, I'm delighted with the raw files. Aside from conversion to jpg all I did was use a Photoshop curves layer to adjust black point and (infrequently) white point. That's all. The colors are rich and full with excellent gradation.

    Details: I used the Canon FD 500mm L at f/5.6, ISO 400. Manual focus without magnification is not difficult, and in challenging cases magnification is available at the touch of a button. I'd like to see a firmware update to enable two-step magnification on the joystick like the bottom left button has. The first magnification step is usually more than sufficient for critical manual focus and is easier to track a moving target. The other firmware update that would make this camera much more useful to me is being able to make the 'exposure preview' mode sticky.

    the pix:






    (full detail in the black plumage, no highlight clipping. A first for this species)











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    Quote Originally Posted by doug View Post
    Yesterday, as part of my continuing evaluation of the Leica SL for my use, I visited Colusa National Wildlife Refuge north of Sacramento, what I consider a target-rich environment. I didn't expect great art from this day's photography so I was not disappointed . I wanted to see how the SL's raw files looked in a context I was familiar with when using the DMR and a7II.

    In a nutshell, I'm delighted with the raw files. Aside from conversion to jpg all I did was use a Photoshop curves layer to adjust black point and (infrequently) white point. That's all. The colors are rich and full with excellent gradation.

    All comments are welcome.
    Here's hoping the Leica folks provide you with a sticky preview mode!
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    Quote Originally Posted by doug View Post
    Yesterday, as part of my continuing evaluation of the Leica SL for my use, I visited Colusa National Wildlife Refuge north of Sacramento, what I consider a target-rich environment. I didn't expect great art from this day's photography so I was not disappointed . I wanted to see how the SL's raw files looked in a context I was familiar with when using the DMR and a7II.

    In a nutshell, I'm delighted with the raw files. Aside from conversion to jpg all I did was use a Photoshop curves layer to adjust black point and (infrequently) white point. That's all. The colors are rich and full with excellent gradation.

    Details: I used the Canon FD 500mm L at f/5.6, ISO 400. Manual focus without magnification is not difficult, and in challenging cases magnification is available at the touch of a button. I'd like to see a firmware update to enable two-step magnification on the joystick like the bottom left button has. The first magnification step is usually more than sufficient for critical manual focus and is easier to track a moving target. The other firmware update that would make this camera much more useful to me is being able to make the 'exposure preview' mode sticky.

    the pix:
    ....

    All comments are welcome.
    I like the colors of your images. Do you plan to continue to use all 3 cameras or will you let 1 or 2 go after checking them out?

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    I like the colors of your images. Do you plan to continue to use all 3 cameras or will you let 1 or 2 go after checking them out?
    I've already let go of the DMR because it had put on too much weight and the thought of dropping a battery pack in a swamp or a pile of boulders freaked me out. The a7II's sensor stabilization would be hard to let go of so I suspect if I can dig up the cash for the SL and those firmware issues are fixed I'll buy the SL and keep the Sony for longer shutter speeds with questionable support.
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    Book store Pug, 50mm AA

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug View Post
    I've already let go of the DMR because it had put on too much weight and the thought of dropping a battery pack in a swamp or a pile of boulders freaked me out. The a7II's sensor stabilization would be hard to let go of so I suspect if I can dig up the cash for the SL and those firmware issues are fixed I'll buy the SL and keep the Sony for longer shutter speeds with questionable support.
    I see the advantage of the A7II sensor stabi.

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    I see the advantage of the A7II sensor stabi.
    I've started looking into the SL's higher ISO settings (and a faster shutter speed) as a means of compensating for the lack of sensor stabilization. I'm impressed with ISO 1600 so far:


    I'm not fond of the a7II's noise pattern above ISO 400. However there are times when I wanted a slower shutter speed in order to show raindrop streaks (more obvious in a bigger print) so a faster shutter speed is not the ideal solution:


    I do like having a responsive camera at all shutter speeds (the SL). The a7II is sufficiently responsive with electronic first curtain (E1C) enabled but the a7II's E1C produces uneven exposure at shutter speeds faster than 1/1000 sec.
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    Hi Doug,
    interesting observations. I am curious if you will end up with both cameras in a Long term.
    One thing...maybe one day the 90-280/2.8-4.0 might become interesting for you and then you would have IS in the lens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paratom View Post
    Hi Doug,
    interesting observations. I am curious if you will end up with both cameras in a Long term.
    One thing...maybe one day the 90-280/2.8-4.0 might become interesting for you and then you would have IS in the lens.
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    That remains to be seen. I much prefer simple non-electronic lenses so sensor stabilization appeals to me much more than optical stabilization.
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    Re: Fun with the Leica SL -- Bokeh with "Doug's wide angle"

    Some flower studies using the APO-Macro-Elmarit-R 100 today.

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    35mm FLE, ISO 50

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    Re: Fun with the Leica SL (digital) and my old E-1 (4/3)

    February 2005 (with the E-1) thinking of Kurosawa's "dreams"



    and February 2016 (SL with APO-SC-R 90):

    L1010649 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

    Same subject, same flowers (we call them kalaniot, but in English they are rendered as anemones). The original field was plowed up and somebody's crop took the place of the richest field of flowers, but the ones seen today are nearby. (Near Beit Guvrin, Israel)

    Incidentally, I could never get the little dots of red to render properly in the 5 MPx E-1, even with much fussing over raw file developers, which then were Capture One 3.0 or so, but the SL is making progress on this challenge.
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    Nice. You should warm up the SL shot a little to match them.

    Red flowers and yellow flowers are always quite tricky to expose and render. I think it's because they reflect so much IR.

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    Lovely fog in the park this morning. Fog is for ultra-wide lenses. And for people too when you can manage it...









    all: Leica SL + Super-Elmar-R 15mm f/3.5

    enjoy,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post

    Red flowers and yellow flowers are always quite tricky to expose and render. I think it's because they reflect so much IR.

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    I suspect the problem with the E-1 was that the CCD pixels would overexpose and bleed into adjacent cells when presented with an intense red. But the software for demosaicing was also very rudimentary. C1 in those days had problems with mosaic patterns that also showed up in larger areas of red.

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    35mm FLE ISO 1000


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    Quote Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick View Post
    I suspect the problem with the E-1 was that the CCD pixels would overexpose and bleed into adjacent cells when presented with an intense red. But the software for demosaicing was also very rudimentary. C1 in those days had problems with mosaic patterns that also showed up in larger areas of red.
    I still have my E-1 (and still use it, very occasionally). Advances in raw processing software continue to give it more life. Using Lightroom 6.3, I can shoot even color now at ISO 3200 with more dynamic range expressed than anything I could achieve with the same camera in 2008. At ISO 100, it produces superb results unachievable with the older raw converters. Almost twice the DR...

    Try it out, if you still have the .ORF files. I kept every photograph I ever exposed with the E-1 ... It's a marvelous camera—my favorite DSLR despite having had many others spec'ed much more highly and much newer. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    I still have my E-1 (and still use it, very occasionally). Advances in raw processing software continue to give it more life. Using Lightroom 6.3, I can shoot even color now at ISO 3200 with more dynamic range expressed than anything I could achieve with the same camera in 2008. At ISO 100, it produces superb results unachievable with the older raw converters. Almost twice the DR...

    Try it out, if you still have the .ORF files. I kept every photograph I ever exposed with the E-1 ... It's a marvelous camera—my favorite DSLR despite having had many others spec'ed much more highly and much newer. ;-)

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    Back then I kept selected JPEGs, to save on the cost of storage (!?). I have five tries at rendering that particular shot. But if you look at it at 100%, the clothing and the grass are crisply rendered, while the red of the flowers are blurred.

    _2193375-4 copy by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

    ISO 100 33 mm f/4 1/320.

    I see that I got the E-1 in late 2003, lost it in summer 2007. I packed all my Olympus gear up in a single bag, leaving it at home while traveling with Leica M8s. Easy pickings for the burglars...

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    Valentines is still hanging around ...


    Leica SL + 2x Extender-R + Elmar-R 180mm f/4
    ISO 400 @ f/8 (f/16 effective) @ 2.5 sec

    enjoy!
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    Leica SL + 2x Extender-R + Telyt-R 250mm f/4
    ISO 200 @ f/8 (effective f/16) @ 0.4 sec

    enjoy!
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    Have rented the 24-90 SL lens. Being a long time M-lens user this is quite an adjustment. First impressions: it's a tool that will get you shots you wouldn't get otherwise; I don't enjoy using it that much.

    This at 90mm, f/8, 1/80, ISO 400

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    A stormy day and an obliging Red-breasted Sapsucker combined gave me an opportunity to see what the SL's files are like at ISO 3200. This is a biggie to me because I'm quite fond of the a7II's sensor stabilization, which the SL lacks. I haven't used the Sony at ISO higher than 400 because I'm not fond of the noise pattern so a usable higher ISO with the SL would compensate for the lack of IBIS.

    Leica SL, Canon FD 500mm f/4.5 L, 1/1000 sec @ f/8, ISO 3200, big ol' Gitzo, significant crop:


    100% crop, no sharpening or noise reduction:

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug View Post
    A stormy day and an obliging Red-breasted Sapsucker combined gave me an opportunity to see what the SL's files are like at ISO 3200. This is a biggie to me because I'm quite fond of the a7II's sensor stabilization, which the SL lacks. I haven't used the Sony at ISO higher than 400 because I'm not fond of the noise pattern so a usable higher ISO with the SL would compensate for the lack of IBIS.

    Leica SL, Canon FD 500mm f/4.5 L, 1/1000 sec @ f/8, ISO 3200, big ol' Gitzo, significant crop:

    http://www.wildlightphoto.com/birds/...s/rbsaps03.jpg

    100% crop, no sharpening or noise reduction:

    http://www.wildlightphoto.com/SL/L1060480_100.jpg
    And just a little touch of noise reduction processing in LR6.3 cleans up the (admittedly rather nice) noise pattern too, without degrading the sharpness. I imagine that even better results can come of working on the raw file.

    Very nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by doug View Post
    A stormy day and an obliging Red-breasted Sapsucker combined gave me an opportunity to see what the SL's files are like at ISO 3200. This is a biggie to me because I'm quite fond of the a7II's sensor stabilization, which the SL lacks. I haven't used the Sony at ISO higher than 400 because I'm not fond of the noise pattern so a usable higher ISO with the SL would compensate for the lack of IBIS.

    Leica SL, Canon FD 500mm f/4.5 L, 1/1000 sec @ f/8, ISO 3200, big ol' Gitzo, significant crop:


    100% crop, no sharpening or noise reduction:

    http://www.wildlightphoto.com/SL/L1060480_100.jpg
    To me this image looks pretty good for ISO3200, specially the color. What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paratom View Post
    To me this image looks pretty good for ISO3200, specially the color. What do you think?
    I'm impressed.

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    Test

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    24-90 @ 90mm

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    Re: Fun with the Leica SL (digital)

    For what it’s worth… V-Elmarit-28/90 vs Summicron-50-ASPH on the SL.
    Tripod, f.11, equal distance, manual focus, no sharpening, using adapter for the 50mm.





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    Quote Originally Posted by downstairs View Post
    For what it’s worth… V-Elmarit-28/90 vs Summicron-50-ASPH on the SL.
    Tripod, f.11, equal distance, manual focus, no sharpening, using adapter for the 50mm.
    ...
    Nice.

    The Summicron-50-ASPH appears to be just a hair more contrasty than the V-Elmarit-28/90 from those detail clips. The resolution seems a toss up.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica SL (digital)

    Heron's Head Point with the 24-90

    Aside: fwiw, I wanted to post these smaller, the long dimension 800 pixels rather than 1024, but found the Flickr sharpening algorithm too aggressive at the smaller size



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    Re: Fun with the Leica SL (digital)

    You would be better off using a true micro lens. Leitz, CZ, Nikon, Olympus all made top class objectives.

    Camera -> Leica R adapter -> bellows R -> Leica R to 1" thread microscope adapter -> objective.

    Alternatively, Canon makes a 5x- 1 x micro. Perhaps that can be adapted to the SL? Not sure how it will compare optically to the Luminars or Photars.


    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    A little fun with macro.

    I have been thinking of what it will take to capture Minox negatives with the Leica SL. Minox negatives are 8x11mm in size, so high magnification—beyond 1:1—is essential to get a nice, high pixel count. Also, because Minox film typically has a 1-3mm curvature when dry, you need enough DoF to capture clean, sharp images edge to edge.

    I have the Macro-Elmarit-R 60mm as well as 2x Extender-R and Macro Adapter R (basically, an aperture coupled extension tube). Normally, I wouldn't use them together because the couplings can cause inaccuracies on Leica R SLRs when you're using two adapters like this, but on the SL which ignores all the mechanical couplings, that's not a concern.

    So I fitted them all together, SL+Macro Adapter R+2x Extender-R+Macro-Elmarit-R 60, set the lens to maximum extension, and called upon the services of my friendly model:



    Focusing carefully, I then made three exposures

    @ f/2.8:



    @ f/5.6



    @ f/11



    To check DoF and resulting magnification, I added a ruler:



    Looking at the mm scale, this setup is going to result in about a 1.9:1 magnification ... I really want closer to 3:1.

    Hmm. I'll need more macro tubes...

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    Re: Fun with the Leica SL (digital)

    both with f/1 Noct





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    Quote Originally Posted by al2002 View Post
    You would be better off using a true micro lens. Leitz, CZ, Nikon, Olympus all made top class objectives.

    Camera -> Leica R adapter -> bellows R -> Leica R to 1" thread microscope adapter -> objective.

    Alternatively, Canon makes a 5x- 1 x micro. Perhaps that can be adapted to the SL? Not sure how it will compare optically to the Luminars or Photars.
    I'll work with what I have, thanks. Since I did the test you pointed to, I acquired the bellows R and have done tests with several of my lenses. The Summicron-R 50mm works very well for Minox negatives at just shy of 3:1 magnification.

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    Re: Fun with the Leica SL (digital)

    More walking on a Saturday morning ...











    all: Leica SL + Elmar-R 180mm f/4

    enjoy!

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    Re: Fun with the Leica SL (digital)

    Hi all,
    how the lenses Elmarit-R 2.8/35 and Elmarit-R 2.8/90 work at one SL?
    Is there anybody who can share their experience with this combinations?

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    Re: Fun with the Leica SL (digital)

    Quote Originally Posted by ceh View Post
    Hi all,
    how the lenses Elmarit-R 2.8/35 and Elmarit-R 2.8/90 work at one SL?
    Is there anybody who can share their experience with this combinations?
    Sorry, ceh, I don't have either of these lenses. Maybe Godfrey?
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    Re: Fun with the Leica SL (digital)

    Quote Originally Posted by ceh View Post
    Hi all,
    how the lenses Elmarit-R 2.8/35 and Elmarit-R 2.8/90 work at one SL?
    Is there anybody who can share their experience with this combinations?
    Quote Originally Posted by erudolph View Post
    Sorry, ceh, I don't have either of these lenses. Maybe Godfrey?
    I don't have those lenses either. However, I'm sure Leica provides lens codes for them in the SL's lens code library and expect that they work well.

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    Re: Stress-testing the Summilux 80 R

    A foggy night, so I set fixed ISO = 400, and shot streets and lights wide open at f/1.4. (The EXIF is wrong, because as usual I only remembered to set the lens profile when I had finished). This one is an improvisation in coma -- look how the little lights change as you go up the pole on the right:

    L1010769 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

    And, with a tripod and f/5.6, a memorial to those who died taking the hill on which the Supreme Court and the Knesset now stand. Just a list of names and their ages, mostly from 17 to 21.

    L1010758 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr

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    Re: Fun with the Leica SL (digital)

    Here are some SL shots today with the Canon FD 28mm F2.0 and FDn 85mm F1.8

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    Re: Fun with the Leica SL (digital)

    Art Museum: two with the f/1 noct v4





    fwiw, the museum-goer's phone is covering the unicorn. This is Raphael's Portrait of a Lady with a Unicorn, a painting with amazing history. In fact, in the gallery where it was the sole painting on display, most of the visitors were reading the text screened in large type size on all the other walls. After I read it, I understood why.

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    Leica SL + Summilux-R 50mm f/1.4
    ISO 400 @ f/2.4 @ 1/3200

    enjoy!
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