Elinchrom Ranger or Ranger Quadra

[fotografz]

Btw, Marc, you may want to consider the 39" Deep Octa instead of the beauty dish. Very easy to weild and lightweight.

Thanks, I'll take a look at it.

-Marc

 

[symbolphoto]

Yeah, it has many different looks to it as well. Without using the outer diffuser, most people tend to think it's just like the beauty dish.

If you use both it's softer, of course. And best of all it folds up. We've done a lot with the Maxilite as well, but this is quite efficient and fairly large.

 

[Jack]

IME, the shallow 37" octa without the front diffuser renders *similarly* to the Elinchrom 27" maxi-soft, and is clearly more portable, expecially with the snap-out ring mount. However, and IMHO only, the hard beauty dishes still rule the day for gorgeous light, especially with people --- there's just a look they give that I've never seen from a soft modifier...

 

[kuau]

Jack. which Elinchrom Beauty Dish do you use outdoors with people?

 

[Jack]

I use the small (16") one -- the big 27" one is way too big to haul around. One other issue to consider is wind --- here smaller and heavier is better than larger and lighter -- think of them like sails on boats

 

[symbolphoto]

You can see this guy using the larger one on his Quadra in the video at the bottom. (Gutsy )

http://www.tomaswhitehouse.com/2010/05/14/we-shot-the-dj/

 

[kuau]

Well after serious internal debate I think I am going to start with the Ranger RX, getting it from Joseph on this site. Then based on Jacks recommendation I will start with the 19" beauty dish:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=WishList.jsp&A=details&Q=&sku=126520&is=REG

and I may get the shallow 39" octa.:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=WishList.jsp&A=details&Q=&sku=176939&is=REG


Now I just need help with picking out a light stand that will work well outdoors. Any recommendations?

-Steven

 

[symbolphoto]

I'm personally very partial to Avenger. I've had other brands, but Avenger has the right cost/strength ratio in my book.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/611463-REG/Avenger_A0030B_A0030B_Alu_Baby_Light_Stand.html

 

[kuau]

I am a total newbie when it comes to light stands. :ROTFL:
Which Avenger do you like?

 

[symbolphoto]

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/611463-REG/Avenger_A0030B_A0030B_Alu_Baby_Light_Stand.html

These are pretty good, if you don't have anything too large on it. If you do, you'd want the steel ones, assuming you are strong enough to hold onto them.

 

[Jack]

Actually, I prefer the aluminum tri stands over steel for the field, but get some sandbags. I like theses because they're easy to see: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/421469-REG/Impact_SBE_18O_Empty_Saddle_Sandbag.html

I have a mix of Avenger and Manfrotto tri-leg stands as they're virtually identical. For the studio I prefer steel C stands as my main stands, also with the sandbags on them.

 

[kuau]

So hanging the ranger pack on the stand is not such a great idea? Better to get a sand bag.
This was the stand I was thinking about getting:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/con...A=details&Q=&sku=113317&is=REG#specifications

 

[symbolphoto]

I hang the ranger pack on ours from time to time. We usually have someon holding our stands, so i don't go all nuts with sandbags, but they are a good alternative.