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YA FINKZ?...so I guess it is a really handy feature of teh 75LVr that teh back rotates on camera, huh? -
A CFV39 would be nice but the deadly combo of Girl friend, Cameras and Cars eats away at the new "toys" budget. :>)
If I were you, I would go the Hasselblad upgrade path and vote for a H4D60. Doing so, you will get most value for your money (which is the reason of course why these companies offer the upgrades in order to keep their customersMy thinking exactly.
I am strongly leaning toward my final upgrade with Hasselblad to the H4D/60 which distances itself from the pack of 35mm dogs nipping at the heals of the lower end MFD backs ... at a trade up price + the Hassey extended service contract that totals less than just the S2 body. Plus, I am very interested in the new focusing system in the H4D which has real world value to me and the way I shoot.
I took the time to carefully process the shots I had done with the S2 rather than the laptop ones I did in a rush while on vacation ... but also did a search of my archives for some shots I had done in identical beach conditions with a H3D/31 and 100/2.2 lens. That was a revelation itself in that we forget how good all these existing MFD systems already are.
Also, I do not feel the same way about the form factor differences as others may, but fully appreciate their point of view. I have shot with 645 for so long it is second nature to me ... and the H system is very user friendly in areas that are important to me, like being able to compensate the camera or flash without removing my eye from the viewfinder. With a hand strap in place I feel as much or more stability for hand held work as I do the S2. I won't even reiterate all the "studio" reasons which has been covered to death already.
While my decision is not totally complete, and I do greatly appreciate the opportunity to have used the S2, I doubt it is ready for my prime time use. Once the H4D/60 is in hand, and the next rumored step by Sony is here, it may never be my cup of tea.
If I had been starting from scratch, and the MFD competition had not progressed past a 39 meg sensor and not progressed with their integrated systems and related software, it may well have been a different story.
I actually dearly hope I'm in the minority, and the S2 is a raging success ... I want Leica to stay fat and healthy and bring me a M10 some day ... prefferably a real chrome version
) and keep you on the save side for the next 2 years before something newer and maybe upgrade worth is coming!
For what purpose does one need a L Bracket for a camera with rotating back?
yeah the L brackets make for less than optimal access ot exposure and metering switches..- also see the poor mating of the RRL bracket ( stolen from H camera as RRS dont make an L bracket for the Hy6 ).. to Hy6 base - because base has some protrusions ..still you can get enough firmness to make it irrelevant in practical use - and mated to the ball head or even better the cube - level ling is no problem -
If I were you, I would go the Hasselblad upgrade path and vote for a H4D60. Doing so, you will get most value for your money (which is the reason of course why these companies offer the upgrades in order to keep their customers
The decision to wait and see WRT S system is definitely the right one. My stomach or what else internal organs tell me, that the release date will further drop and even if the manage to ship some units in January a kind of predictable purchase will be not possible before autumn 2010. WRT S glass same feeling plus you cannot count on the availability of say 80% of the S lens lineup within the next 2 years. That makes full system availability 2012 in my opinion and then - I can predict for sure - the current S2 will be completely out of date and fully overtaken by 35mm DSLRs (or at least equal level) and completely left behind the 60-80MP backs available by then from Phase and Hasselblad. So you can call this generations behind - generations in terms of digital evolution.
Will they have a S3 as answer for that? Maybe, maybe not. But even if they would do this homework then the S3 would have a maximum of 55MP (or similar range), while you would be in the 80MP plus area with Phase and Hasselblad.
I am also sure that both Phase and Hasselblad will do their homework to upgrade and complete their lens lineup to make it fit the next generation high resolution backs, so the argument of just Leica glass can be as good is no longer true.
I for myself decided - after almost 9 months of research, testing and trying and reading all material and reports I could get hold of in different forums, mainly here in GetDPI I must give this compliment - to go for Hasselblad. It could have been Phase if they did not screw up the final pricing, but from the product both vendors were finally equally appealing and also readiness and openness (even if only internal) of their systems in terms of upgradability.
Deciding for Hasselblad allows me an upgrade early next year to H4D60, I will add 1 or 2 more lenses to my lineup - 28, 35-90, 100, 150 or 210 - and be a happy shooter. And if I desire so I can expand with any tech camera and their legendary glass, which I still have to prove if it delivers better results for me than the system I have by then.
And in 2 years - who knows, upgrade to the H5D80 ???
The L bracket on the Hy6 is a total waste of time on a rotating back as pointed out..trying to add some humour to a thread on teh S2 which as far as I am concerned went out of control days ago,...
This is one feature of the Hy6 that I really like and use frequently, especially when using the WLF. Leaf accomplished the same goal by rotating the sensor internally....so I guess it is a really handy feature of teh 75LVr that teh back rotates on camera, huh? -
sorry Peter - seems I didnt get it
Guy,
If I were you, I would go the Hasselblad upgrade path and vote for a H4D60. Doing so, you will get most value for your money (which is the reason of course why these companies offer the upgrades in order to keep their customers
The decision to wait and see WRT S system is definitely the right one. My stomach or what else internal organs tell me, that the release date will further drop and even if the manage to ship some units in January a kind of predictable purchase will be not possible before autumn 2010. WRT S glass same feeling plus you cannot count on the availability of say 80% of the S lens lineup within the next 2 years. That makes full system availability 2012 in my opinion and then - I can predict for sure - the current S2 will be completely out of date and fully overtaken by 35mm DSLRs (or at least equal level) and completely left behind the 60-80MP backs available by then from Phase and Hasselblad. So you can call this generations behind - generations in terms of digital evolution.
Will they have a S3 as answer for that? Maybe, maybe not. But even if they would do this homework then the S3 would have a maximum of 55MP (or similar range), while you would be in the 80MP plus area with Phase and Hasselblad.
I am also sure that both Phase and Hasselblad will do their homework to upgrade and complete their lens lineup to make it fit the next generation high resolution backs, so the argument of just Leica glass can be as good is no longer true.
I for myself decided - after almost 9 months of research, testing and trying and reading all material and reports I could get hold of in different forums, mainly here in GetDPI I must give this compliment - to go for Hasselblad. It could have been Phase if they did not screw up the final pricing, but from the product both vendors were finally equally appealing and also readiness and openness (even if only internal) of their systems in terms of upgradability.
Deciding for Hasselblad allows me an upgrade early next year to H4D60, I will add 1 or 2 more lenses to my lineup - 28, 35-90, 100, 150 or 210 - and be a happy shooter. And if I desire so I can expand with any tech camera and their legendary glass, which I still have to prove if it delivers better results for me than the system I have by then.
And in 2 years - who knows, upgrade to the H5D80 ???
Yep, I am seeking H4D pricing now. What I was missing was more complete information on the new H4D/60, some of which is now available on the Hasselblad site.If I were you, I would go the Hasselblad upgrade path and vote for a H4D60. Doing so, you will get most value for your money (which is the reason of course why these companies offer the upgrades in order to keep their customers
The decision to wait and see WRT S system is definitely the right one. My stomach or what else internal organs tell me, that the release date will further drop and even if the manage to ship some units in January a kind of predictable purchase will be not possible before autumn 2010. WRT S glass same feeling plus you cannot count on the availability of say 80% of the S lens lineup within the next 2 years. That makes full system availability 2012 in my opinion and then - I can predict for sure - the current S2 will be completely out of date and fully overtaken by 35mm DSLRs (or at least equal level) and completely left behind the 60-80MP backs available by then from Phase and Hasselblad. So you can call this generations behind - generations in terms of digital evolution.
Will they have a S3 as answer for that? Maybe, maybe not. But even if they would do this homework then the S3 would have a maximum of 55MP (or similar range), while you would be in the 80MP plus area with Phase and Hasselblad.
I am also sure that both Phase and Hasselblad will do their homework to upgrade and complete their lens lineup to make it fit the next generation high resolution backs, so the argument of just Leica glass can be as good is no longer true.
I for myself decided - after almost 9 months of research, testing and trying and reading all material and reports I could get hold of in different forums, mainly here in GetDPI I must give this compliment - to go for Hasselblad. It could have been Phase if they did not screw up the final pricing, but from the product both vendors were finally equally appealing and also readiness and openness (even if only internal) of their systems in terms of upgradability.
Deciding for Hasselblad allows me an upgrade early next year to H4D60, I will add 1 or 2 more lenses to my lineup - 28, 35-90, 100, 150 or 210 - and be a happy shooter. And if I desire so I can expand with any tech camera and their legendary glass, which I still have to prove if it delivers better results for me than the system I have by then.
And in 2 years - who knows, upgrade to the H5D80 ???
