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so true. but hasselblad was derided for their digital lens corrections, particularly by leica+fanboys. very shortsighted. after having paid a lot of money i now find myself doing local color corrections in CS on my leica S files. great they saved money on software but who will pay me for my time?????
yes f5.6 with the S 35mm lens is fine, just like the HCD 28mm at f4 with phocus.
I can't speak for Phocus but for C1 each lens made for Phase is in there list of lenses that are supported even Contax Zeiss lenses plus Hassy lenses for there H system. You can just select the lens and it does the corrections automatically. Phase lenses just come up in the dialogue. Than you have many added benefits that Pano tools does not have . CA, Purple Fringing, Distortion, Sharpness falloff, Light falloff and also LCC corrections for tech camera's and most of these tools you have sliders to get exactly your desired effect. Now what Hassy and Phase do on the back end here in doing these corrections for each lens is beyond my scope but I know for a fact Phase puts a lot of effort in each of these lenses in building there profiles for them. I just know this is very easy to work with and stays in the raw processing side of the house which I prefer than a separate program. For some shoots I may not even go in this section but for others I can take one image make the corrections for it than copy and paste those corrections to all or whatever raw file I want to process. This makes for a very fast workflow and stays within the same program. Pano tools although very good would be better for cams that do not have this dedication built into the raw processing software.
It's why Guy and I were convinced it has to be a software conversion issue for the S2 in our tests --- it was just so much worse than anything else we normally see in MF capture, even with old lenses designed for film long before digital.
sounds plausible.
Of course. Or a really poor sensor design, or a really poor lens design. At the end of the day, it could be any of these, but for Leica's sake, we hope it's just a conversion software issue -- and IMO that is the likeliest issue. (Phase files can have excessive fringing too if you convert them in LR...)
basically I've no real idea about the underlying techinque. However whenever I've seen such heavy color artifacts (for instance in Marc's samples there are also blue and green artifacts, not only pruple fringing) it was always from a camera with microlenses (probably without accurate "calibration"). So I guess it might be related to the firmware rather than the post processing RAW software. But I might be wrong, of course.
I am still curious about corner sharpness at WIDE distances stopped down. I am very impressed by the S2 lenses performance wide open... but not stopped down.
True. C1 V5 has gone a long, long way. However 3.7.9 was a gold standard... then. But to be honest... it was also a long way to 3.7.9.
Welcome to the GetDPI! Perhaps you could post that image here with a list of your raw settings and a 100% view of the backlit subject?
Thanks for some of the history between Leica and Phase in the past. I wasn't aware about those things...Need to stop in now with some facts WRT Raw converter and SW and Leica and Phase.
There were already discussions on top management level WRT C1 for Leica S2 some 3 years ago (this is the time I know for sure) but Leica was always offering C1 as the SW for their cameras - also M8 and DMR - remember? So it had made really sense, that they continue with C1 also for the S2.
Not sure what happened in these discussions on Mgmt level, but there were even thoughts that Leica would develop some lenses for Phase - maybe this was before Phase decided to go the Schneider path. Anyway, they seem not to have reached any conclusion about future cooperation and so they stopped. I think it was more Leica, who saw the Phase system more a competition to their S2. Remember, these were the times when Phase just started to have their own Phase camera by rebranding the Mamiya box.
End of the day we see now that this was the worse decision for the S System. We had endless discussions in other fora about that and Leica fanboys tended to have tons of arguments about how great Leica lenses are and there needs not to be any correction for that. This was even Leicas marketing pitch a year ago I remember from direct conversations.
Now we see the result
Best for Leica to go back to Phase and get up a new cooperation with them. There is no real competition there in my eyes as the 2 systems are so different anyway - at least for me.
