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Why did you choose your back?

Guy Mancuso

Administrator, Instructor
I've probably done this a few times already, not knowing it's against policy,
but it's not listed in the forum rules .
LOL well there are no rules about linking because we actually encourage it. We have a open policy on this and here is why. This is a learning site and it is designed and setup to be a little different than other sites. This is a place to learn and share. Any good information is welcome here with linking but if you are on other sites and have information that resides here we hope folks will also share that and link us. Information is key to move forward in your photography growth and being able to source that info is what it is all about so we encourage it but we also on one hand want all our members to learn and share we also would like folks to use common sense also and do what is fair for all the members . Certainly for example linking to porn site is not only not fair to others it is also in poor taste. I would like to think you all are invited guests at a big round table in our home. If you think in those terms than never a issue . Also remember this is a workshop forum that Jack and I do to help teach others so any direct competition to that would be like not bringing your empty plate to the kitchen. Our biggest rule here is no insults to each other, that simple will not be tolerated and Jack , Jim, Mike and I are all on the same page there. This includes us BTW which we are members also. LOL I have had my moments on this one.

Seriously if you think it is good data than we welcome it with open arms.

Billy BTW thanks for reading the rules most folks do not bother.
 
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Natasa Stojsic

Guest
Hi Natasa,

I'm looking at the Phase One 645, P30+ & Hasselblad 110mm f/2.0 combo.

I've noticed you use the same back. Can you capture and apply a custom grey card WB in/with the Phase or do you only have this option in post/C1

This is the work flow I use with the Canon and hope to continue with the Phase.

Thanks :)
Excellent choice at the moment... and most probably good choice many years from now:thumbup:

As far as capturing and applying a custom grey card WB in with Phase?

YES:thumbup: To create a custom white balance on the back you need to do the following:

-> In the menu, go to WB and then to Create WB

-> Make an exposure, filling the frame with your gray card

-> Save the WB as Custom 1, 2, 3, etc.

When you bring the images into C1, make sure you use the "as shot" option in the white balance tool!!!

Happy & Ready:thumbs:
 

elitegroup

New member
Excellent choice at the moment... and most probably good choice many years from now:thumbup:

As far as capturing and applying a custom grey card WB in with Phase?

YES:thumbup: To create a custom white balance on the back you need to do the following:

-> In the menu, go to WB and then to Create WB

-> Make an exposure, filling the frame with your gray card

-> Save the WB as Custom 1, 2, 3, etc.

When you bring the images into C1, make sure you use the "as shot" option in the white balance tool!!!

Happy & Ready:thumbs:
Thank you Natasa for your help, is appreciated :D
 
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Natasa Stojsic

Guest
BTW I can offer the M-system free for the members of this Forum if they need to shoot in Moscow. Welcome!http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/images/smilies/redface.gif

ALPA lenses: 35mm Digitar, 45mm. Alpar, 24mm Digitar. The 24mm was damaged and does not allow focusing. I sold my Helvetar and 60mm. digitars in 2007.

Rollei 6008 lenses: 90mm Makro, 3,5/40mm., 2.8/80AF, 2,8/180 AF. I am trying to find an AF version of the 150mm lens. I use the lenses on the HY6 Rolleiflex version with an un-revolving adapter. Unfortunately the HY6 does not support my 54H multi-shot (only eVolution 75H is supported).

Russia is a very strange market for digibacks and MFD. The dominating platform for professionals is Sinar (44H, 54H and 54M on all types of cameras, Contax is the most popular), Phase One became the DB of choice for younger generation of photographers (the owner of Moscow Academy of photography is the Russia PhaseOne/ ProPhoto dealer). Hasselblad H3D is very popular with amateurs.

Regards,
Yevgeny
Yevgeny, for sure I am calling you to negotiate for me when I decide to buy Sinar M:thumbup:

I am not sure what kind of deals do they offer now? Anybody else who owns Sinar M please advise, Thierry included of course;)?


Thanks for the offer, I would love to visit if I decide to buy the system, so thanks again..... I'm sure everybody appreciates it!!!

You said 24mm lens for 24mm for ALPA was damaged and does not allow focusing... is that basically because it's damaged or some other reasons!!!

Most Russian photographers I know love Rollei+Alpa+Leica.... So perhaps now when you can mount P45+/P30+/P25+/P21+/etc. on Rolleiflex 6008 AF Phase will be even more popular in Russia!!!

On the other hand, even for Rollei owners who don't happen to like PHASE... even for them it is good to know that it does support their investment:thumbup:

I just can't understand one thing.... Usually companies struggle/pay huge amounts of money to get feedback and find out how to improve their product/sale. Here on Medium Format territory, customers are almost crying to help/point out and offer their feedback and result seem to be.... nobody cares enough:( why, because everybody wants/needs bigger sensor, the new/same:p or similar software/turtle to upload much heavier files.... I don't think so!!!

So anybody planning to invest in the current line of sensors SHOULD NOT seriously worry at all!!!

I think Phase makes enough money, (Sinar too) among other things on the list to at least offer the same DB screens as Hasselblad if not better..... better software than current C1 Version, etc.... Yes C1 is standard and it was for years, but now days I see photographers bypassing C1 more often!!!
 
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Dear Natasa,
Thank you for your kind offer to represent you in the negotiations with Sinar. You should know that we here in Russia usually pay 30% more for all photo equipment (tax + custom duties) than you all Americans pay in the USA.

I do not know whether the Russian dealer has a Synar-m system in stock, I am pretty sure that he has a spare M-body/shutter.
The pricing of all Sinar products is very transparent, all the prices are listed at http://www.sbf-moscow.ru/, the site is in Cyrillic and you will find the price list on the bottom as an Exel file. All prices are in Euro. The discounts are negotiable...
I personally Know 6 people here who use Sinar M in different configurations. Two of them work for museums. One amateur is selling his whole system now and there is no customers interested to buy all the set. The most popular configuration in a Sinar-m shutter and Sinar P3 camera with old and new (HR) Sinaron digital lenses, my friend Igor Sakharov (http://www.photo-is.com/gallery.php) owns such a combo with a new eVolution 75H (and a 54H as a backup).

ALPA 24mm digitar: I damaged the lens two years ago. The lens sits in a flexible (very delicate) helicon mount. I was abroad and I had the lens on my camera. When I put the camera in a bag I failed to notice that something else in the bag applies pressure right on the lens. The preasure damaged the mount. I was able to repair it here and now the 24mm is a fixed infinity focus lens (like on disposable cameras).

Rolleiflex is indeed very popular here. I cannot explain the phenomenon.
The most popular combo is 6008AF +db20 Phase one. Some of the users migrated to eMotion backs. Not everybody is happy. The most common complaint is the lack of Auto White balance (?) on Sinar and flat files. They want "ready to use" files out of the camera. People do not realise that the eMotion backs offer a lot of flexibility and IMO custom balance is more professional and precise.
Yevgeny

Yevgeny, for sure I am calling you to negotiate for me when I decide to buy Sinar M:thumbup:

I am not sure what kind of deals do they offer now? Anybody else who owns Sinar M please advise, Thierry included of course;)


You said 24mm lens for 24mm for ALPA was damaged and does not allow focusing... is that basically because it's damaged or some other reasons!!!

Most Russian photographers I know love Rollei+Alpa+Leica.... So perhaps now when you can mount P45+/P30+/P25+/P21+/etc. on Rolleiflex 6008 AF Phase will be even more popular in Russia!!!
 
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thsinar

Guest
Dear Yevgeny,

yes, custom WB is more precise, you are absolutely right.

However, the eMotion back has some default profiles/colour balances included (Daylight, Cloudy, Sunny, Shadow, Flash, Fluorescent, Tungsten, etc ...) which are not a 100% but give a very close colour balance when used under these light conditions.

Then one has the possibility to shoot a grey card or a Macbeth chart and EITHER do WB in the eMotion or LATER in Sinar Captureshop OR Sinar eXposure.

FURTHER, in Captureshop AS WELL as in eXposure, one can save as a "PARAMETER" as many WBs as wanted and apply them on as many files as wished, in a fraction of a second (no process time). Those WB's can be used whenever you need them.

So I guess there is sometimes a lack of information concerning what the digital back or the software can do. But very often what is seen as missing is in fact there.

But YES, there is no "AUTOMATIC" WB with a sensor on the camera metering the colour temperature and applying it to the file for a immediate view, YET. I know that this is what you mean. This will be possible with the Hy6 and its integrated WB sensor, as soon as it is implemented. However, and in my opinion, like in yours, nothing can replace a TRUE and right WB with a grey card, IMO.

- Flat files: any files are flat when there is no tonal/contrast curve applied. Here again, the previews on the eMotion display does apply automatically such a curve. In Captureshop or in eXposure one can select whether one wants the files to be displayed with a "LINEAR" (flat) curve, which is then exactly WHAT has been CAPTURED by the sensor, WITHUT ANY alteration/change. Or one can decide that one wants to display the files with some default curves or one can create one's own tonal curves and save them to be chosen for displaying the images.

I hope this helps.

Best regards,
Thierry

Dear Natasa,
The most common complaint is the lack of Auto White balance (?) on Sinar and flat files. They want "ready to use" files out of the camera. People do not realise that the eMotion backs offer a lot of flexibility and IMO custom balance is more professional and precise.
Yevgeny
 
Dear Thierry,
Yes, it's very helpful , as usual.
This forum became a knowledge mine.
Just a thought: Your excellent posts should be printed as a "How to Start with Sinar" brochure .

Kind regards,
Yevgeny
Dear Yevgeny,

yes, custom WB is more precise, you are absolutely right.

So I guess there is sometimes a lack of information concerning what the digital back or the software can do. But very often what is seen as missing is in fact there.



I hope this helps.

Best regards,
Thierry
 

Graham Mitchell

New member
The most common complaint is the lack of Auto White balance (?) on Sinar and flat files. They want "ready to use" files out of the camera. People do not realise that the eMotion backs offer a lot of flexibility and IMO custom balance is more professional and precise.
Yevgeny
I am amazed to read this. The white balance can be adjusted in the software, just like any other raw processing software. Or a picker can be used to select a gray card in the image or other neutral shade.

As for the flat files, this is true of any camera with a large dynamic range unless you add contrast with a curve. With the Sinar backs you can choose to keep the curve flat, or as contrasty as you want, and apply it by default to all captures. Professionals will generally WANT this flexibility and not want to have the same contrast applied to every image. Again, this is a very strange complaint.

It sounds as though someone tried the back for a few minutes and didn't know how to use the software?
 
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thsinar

Guest
yes, Graham, that's the (sad) story of it: so many will buy (expensive) equipment and do not go through the camera possibilities, even after an entire lifetime! That's so common. Those people often miss out 50% to 90% of the possibilities of their gear/product/back.

Actually that it is the very reason why Sinar started to organize LF workshops in 1980, when they noticed that so many customers were using their p2 4x5" with parallel standards all the time! No clue about sharpness plane adjustment, no clue about perspective, no clue about sharpness and D0F, etc ...

Best regards,
Thierry

I am amazed to read this. The white balance can be adjusted in the software, just like any other raw processing software. Or a picker can be used to select a gray card in the image or other neutral shade.

As for the flat files, this is true of any camera with a large dynamic range unless you add contrast with a curve. With the Sinar backs you can choose to keep the curve flat, or as contrasty as you want, and apply it by default to all captures. Professionals will generally WANT this flexibility and not want to have the same contrast applied to every image. Again, this is a very strange complaint.

It sounds as though someone tried the back for a few minutes and didn't know how to use the software?
 

Guy Mancuso

Administrator, Instructor
I am amazed to read this. The white balance can be adjusted in the software, just like any other raw processing software. Or a picker can be used to select a gray card in the image or other neutral shade.

As for the flat files, this is true of any camera with a large dynamic range unless you add contrast with a curve. With the Sinar backs you can choose to keep the curve flat, or as contrasty as you want, and apply it by default to all captures. Professionals will generally WANT this flexibility and not want to have the same contrast applied to every image. Again, this is a very strange complaint.

It sounds as though someone tried the back for a few minutes and didn't know how to use the software?
That maybe part true of just trying it out but let's look at the M8 the AWB sucked in the beginning and many many complaints because it was not correct coming off the camera . For the raw shooter it is a meaningless point, we adjust anyway in post so it makes no difference but that does not stop the whining about it even till this day , The M8 improved the AWB but still makes no difference to the raw shooter , we simply do not have a need. But folks are lazy also and don't want to take the time to learn new dog tricks and this goes for the whole industry and everything in it. Hell do we really need 10 frames per second , no but the same logic applies here also. Bottom line friends is this and folks from the old school and new ones that want to work it , There is no free lunch you want quality in both your shooting and your final results you have to WORK at it. I don't care what you have in your hands , yes some will be easier to do that but that is all it is. You can achieve the same or better results just being better at what you do and learn more. Workshops, reading , forums and all the data available to us is actually much more important than what camera you pick. Folks need to learn and some want to be lazy and not do anything to learn. Bottom line
 
@ Thierry and Graham
I think that the "pros" (at least here in Russia) are coming WITHOUT any experience outside their Canon work. A lot are moving from MF Film. The market for professional photography was severely damaged by semi-pros with their Canons and Nikons and I see how pros became more interested in MFD to get the advantage and they are ready to invest.
I am sure that the dealers should provide the basic training with their product. The dealers shall have the knowledge and skills or employ good people. The workshops Sinar-Bron dealer is doing in Moscow (at PhotoForum expo) concentrates on Lighting, it is the thing they know and the show with models attracts public. This is good for brand promotion, but not enough.
Very often I, a mere layman, am asked to help with the workflow for buyers of Sinar products (for Fotoframe shop etc.). That concerns me. There are some very skilful pros here and in Europe who can teach at the workshops and they are able to explain the way files work.

I am on a short vacation and today a friend of mine visited me, his son is planing to get a MF digital system (he shoots Mamiya RZ and Contax). He is deciding what back to finance and he has money. They are evaluating files and I addressed here the issues (in my previous post) they raised (WB and flatness). It was not my questions. I am more than agree with Graham, I love Sinar files, I adore the Curve #3 and feel more and more comfortable with the eXposure workflow.
Sorry for the rant.
Regards,
Yevgeny
yes, Graham, that's the (sad) story of it: so many will buy (expensive) equipment and do not go through the camera possibilities, even after an entire lifetime! That's so common. Those people often miss out 50% to 90% of the possibilities of their gear/product/back.

Actually that it is the very reason why Sinar started to organize LF workshops in 1980, when they noticed that so many customers were using their p2 4x5" with parallel standards all the time! No clue about sharpness plane adjustment, no clue about perspective, no clue about sharpness and D0F, etc ...

Best regards,
Thierry
 
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thsinar

Guest
no rant, Yevgeny, and my "critic" about photographers not knowing their equipment was not intended at you. I know you since quite a while and believe you do know what you are speaking about.

My concern was more intended to those taking the camera out and not taking the time to learn the basics, for analog or digital, and for whatever reason. Some simply and purely don't have this time. But one thing is sure, the better you dominate the technical part the more freedom you will have in your creativity. It is certainly worth to invest some time to go through the basics, to read a manual, to attend a good workshop with knowledgeable people able to show you, and it is worth the time to try and experience by one's own. Reading is good, but you keep about 10% of what you've read. Seeing it done is better, you'll keep a bit more from it, may be 20%. But doing it yourself and testing with your "hands", that's what makes you progress the fastest.

Best regards,
Thierry

@ Thierry and Graham
I think that the "pros" (at least here in Russia) are coming WITHOUT any experience outside their Canon work. A lot are moving from MF Film. The market for professional photography was severely damaged by semi-pros with their Canons and Nikons and I see how pros became more interested in MFD to get the advantage and they are ready to invest.
I am sure that the dealers should provide the basic training with their product. The dealers shall have the knowledge and skills or employ good people. The workshops Sinar-Bron dealer is doing in Moscow (at PhotoForum expo) concentrates on Lighting, it is the thing they know and the show with models attracts public. This is good for brand promotion, but not enough.
Very often I, a mere layman, am asked to help with the workflow for buyers of Sinar products (for Fotoframe shop etc.). That concerns me. There are some very skilful pros here and in Europe who can teach at the workshops and they are able to explain the way files work.

I am on a short vacation and today a friend of mine visited me, his son is planing to get a MF digital system (he shoots Mamiya RZ and Contax). He is deciding what back to finance and he has money. They are evaluating files and I addressed here the issues (in my previous post) they raised (WB and flatness). It was not my questions. I am more than agree with Graham, I love Sinar files, I adore the Curve #3 and feel more and more comfortable with the eXposure workflow.
Sorry for the rant.
Regards,
Yevgeny
 

David K

Workshop Member
When I sold my Aptus 75S and bought my Sinar kit I went into this with my eyes wide open knowing that there would be a learning curve and some teething problems working with a new and unfamiliar camera, back and software. I look at this as a challenge and not a "headache". This is, after all, professional level equipment and not a point and shoot camera. This Friday I will drive several hours (each way) to meet with Steve Hendrix and Dave McRitchie (from Sinar) to better learn my new equipment and software... and I am looking forward to it. Guy and Jack, who are far more experienced and accomplished than I am, are spending the time to learn their new kits as well. This doesn't happen overnight but if you are willing to put the time in, the results will be well worth while. If you're not, well, Canon and Nikon make some great cameras.
 
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thsinar

Guest
That's a very good mindset and to be taken as an example by others.

And BTW: my remarks below were also not intended at you, David!

;)

Best regards,
Thierry


When I sold my Aptus 75S and bought my Sinar kit I went into this with my eyes wide open knowing that there would be a learning curve and some teething problems working with a new and unfamiliar camera, back and software. I look at this as a challenge and not a "headache". This is, after all, professional level equipment and not a point and shoot camera. This Friday I will drive several hours (each way) to meet with Steve Hendrix and Dave McRitchie (from Sinar) to better learn my new equipment and software... and I am looking forward to it. Guy and Jack, who are far more experienced and accomplished than I am, are spending the time to learn their new kits as well. This doesn't happen overnight but if you are willing to put the time in, the results will be well worth while. If you're not, well, Canon and Nikon make some great cameras.
 

Guy Mancuso

Administrator, Instructor
When I sold my Aptus 75S and bought my Sinar kit I went into this with my eyes wide open knowing that there would be a learning curve and some teething problems working with a new and unfamiliar camera, back and software. I look at this as a challenge and not a "headache". This is, after all, professional level equipment and not a point and shoot camera. This Friday I will drive several hours (each way) to meet with Steve Hendrix and Dave McRitchie (from Sinar) to better learn my new equipment and software... and I am looking forward to it. Guy and Jack, who are far more experienced and accomplished than I am, are spending the time to learn their new kits as well. This doesn't happen overnight but if you are willing to put the time in, the results will be well worth while. If you're not, well, Canon and Nikon make some great cameras.
Completely agree this stuff takes time to learn and learn well, there is NO overnight success. You get back what you put in , You want overnight get a P&S and call it a day. These waters are not to be thread on if that is what you think, even the M8 as simple as it was takes a lot of time to know , I said that to hundreds of people in private e-mails , PMs and in public. Same here, you need to learn it.
 

LJL

New member
That maybe part true of just trying it out but let's look at the M8 the AWB sucked in the beginning and many many complaints because it was not correct coming off the camera . For the raw shooter it is a meaningless point, we adjust anyway in post so it makes no difference but that does not stop the whining about it even till this day , The M8 improved the AWB but still makes no difference to the raw shooter , we simply do not have a need. But folks are lazy also and don't want to take the time to learn new dog tricks and this goes for the whole industry and everything in it. Hell do we really need 10 frames per second , no but the same logic applies here also. Bottom line friends is this and folks from the old school and new ones that want to work it , There is no free lunch you want quality in both your shooting and your final results you have to WORK at it. I don't care what you have in your hands , yes some will be easier to do that but that is all it is. You can achieve the same or better results just being better at what you do and learn more. Workshops, reading , forums and all the data available to us is actually much more important than what camera you pick. Folks need to learn and some want to be lazy and not do anything to learn. Bottom line
Guy,
Not really meaning to get into this, nor create a stir, but some of your comments need some qualifying.

Some of us do need 10fps or so. Not everybody, and not all the time, but a 2-3 shot bursts at those speeds with a DSLR can mean the difference between getting the shot or not. This does NOT apply to most MF situations, and most of us do not think it important there.

The AWB thing and how files are delivered to an app do make a difference when one is needing fast processing. That applies to RAW files as much as anything. True, one has all the flexibility in the world with RAW to tweak the WB to their needs, develop curves for contrast, increase/decrease saturation, etc. All great and powerful stuff. However, it really does help to have the thumbnails and possibly the preview files in many apps come out half decently, and not having to work from near scratch to adjust things enough just to evaluate the image for further consideration. While the fine tuning can be done, it is valuable to at least see previews that are somewhat more balanced for evaluation. Again, this may not apply to everybody, nor all the time, but I would bet most folks working against some deadlines prefer to see a good first approximation. The M8, until fixed, was horrific at this, and made the entire process painfully slow and inconsistent.

Again, I say these things not to stir the pot, but for perspective. I shoot a lot of images, all in RAW, and I need to see things quickly on my screens and at a level that at least lets me get to the selection process more quickly. Even though I will be tweaking the finals, having a good first pass look lets me concentrate more on compositional, focus, DOF and other issues, than trying to read through excessively flat looking thumbnails and previews, making the mental WB correction plans in my head.

It is not about doing the work, as I am very familiar with that part and not afraid or unwilling to tackle it. It is more about having to do more work that may not really be needed, nor add much to the process other than time and frustration. That is why some of the RAW processors, even ACR/LR pick up the data from the RAW files and attempt to deliver something that may be closer to what a final processing could be. They are not perfect, but they sure do help getting past screens and screens of very flat looking images, like many of us had to live with with the M8.

LJ
 

Guy Mancuso

Administrator, Instructor
No I agree having a good AWB is a great thing and it really makes editing and processing much easier if things come in correctly . I think maybe i over simplified what i was saying originally but do agree completely it is nice having it close to done and ready to before you hit any adjustments. less time processing is a good thing but it also is not the end of the world as some whine it be. Also yes some folks need speed there is no question of that in wanting short bursts of images for some stuff. I think maybe i just figure everyone knows DSLR stuff and no need to rehash what they are capable of. No question they can do a better job at sports and such with there speed advantage . Obviously MF just like a M8 is not for everyone or everything no matter how much we try which i did with the M8 and bottom line i need a DSLR for some stuff and MF for some stuff. Being a Pro it usually will come down to two system to get everything done unless you specialize in one area only. Which I do not, so having both is a need
 

LJL

New member
Guy,
I am cool on this, and really did not mean to jump your comments. We are on the same page. My personal feelings are just what you mentioned....less time at the computer is a good thing. Also, did not intend to get into the DSLR v MFDB debate, as in my mind and many here, that is really not so much a debate, but information sharing based on our individual needs. I agree, a working pro, and probably a lot of other serious photogs, may need both systems, if they are chasing certain kinds of captures and for certain kinds of uses. (I almost died this last week when a client wanted to use one of my 8MP DSLR shots, cropped, shot at ISO 800, etc., for a "poster". Little did I know at the time that it was a 30"x40" poster!! The file held up because I put the time and effort into the reprocess, but had I known the original plans, I would have tried to shoot it with MF instead. It was a quick grab that could have been a much better planned shot.)

You, and others are spot on target when you talk about how important it is to know and understand the gear, the processing and shooting conditions. There is no substitute for taking that time to become more than intimate with each. That being said, it sure is nice to dream about less time trying to discern images on a computer screen, and more time shooting or planning the next shoot. That is where getting a good first blush look really helps.

LJ
 

David Klepacki

New member
When I sold my Aptus 75S and bought my Sinar kit I went into this with my eyes wide open knowing that there would be a learning curve and some teething problems working with a new and unfamiliar camera, back and software. I look at this as a challenge and not a "headache". This is, after all, professional level equipment and not a point and shoot camera. This Friday I will drive several hours (each way) to meet with Steve Hendrix and Dave McRitchie (from Sinar) to better learn my new equipment and software... and I am looking forward to it. Guy and Jack, who are far more experienced and accomplished than I am, are spending the time to learn their new kits as well. This doesn't happen overnight but if you are willing to put the time in, the results will be well worth while. If you're not, well, Canon and Nikon make some great cameras.
David, sounds like you are making some progress with Sinar. The support from Sinar in the US, as far as getting an upgrade is concerned, is probably the worst I have ever experienced ... from anyone, ever. I ordered the e75LV upgrade and put a deposit on it since May 6, and am still waiting for it to appear. I don't know of anyone in the US getting their upgrades yet (except maybe for you!). Even Steve Hendrix and Dave McRitchie are complaining that they are not getting the backs they need from Switzerland. I am starting to get concerned how reliable this company really is, at least in the US, since they don't seem to be there when you need them. At this point, I am not sure I can endorse/recommend Sinar to anyone in the US.
 

Guy Mancuso

Administrator, Instructor
LJ you picked up on something that has hit home with me more times than I can count and i know Ray has ran into it also. Is sometimes when I deliver a file intended for a certain media size than all of a sudden it turns into something else be it a usage issue or not the problem is your 10 mpx image is asked to be the size of a wall or cropped to death that it simply falls apart and you may not even get the chance to reprocess.
Honestly i really have been embarrassed at this situation. i spent 10's of thousands in gear and bam it may not be good enough. This maybe hit home for a lot of us and main reason i jumped or leaped off the slope as we say. i told a old client of mine that does this to me all the time with surprise look at this stuff. My heart falls to it's feet but I told her of my new system and her comment was so now i can actually walk up to it and see detail. Bam over 20 k well spent now. Sorry folks but I do take pride in what I deliver and that comment was good and bad. Good that i jumped bad that they never said anything before and that part can hurt you. This is seriously something to consider at least you have the argument this is the best there is or damn close to it. My search for better image quality just sort of ended , okay 39 mpx would be nice but I am really happy with this. Just making the jump in any back is a vast improvement
 
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