Of course the Sinar backs work with the Hy6 - i use the eMotion 75 LV, but also the other Sinar backs (eMotion 54LV and the eSprit 65, etc.) are compatible...
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Ordered a Hy6 and Leaf Aptus II 12 today!
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Graham Mitchell
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Some older Leaf backs were made in the AFi/Hy6 mount too but I'm not sure if they are still new stock or whether you would have to find them on the used market.
As baudolino wrote, some Sinar backs are also compatible but again I am not sure if they are still current stock or available on used market only.
Graham Mitchell
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Joris, I think the issue is not so clear cut. Most camera makers make models in batches, and continue to sell that batch for some time until they either replace the model with a new one, or produce another batch of the same. There's no reason for DHW to produce more while they have stock. Whether they would be prepared to do so is a question I can't answer, but they do seem serious about developing the platform, with a new lens also on the way.
They have introduced two new lenses - the 150 in AF (and I think manual focus) and 120 (manual focus only). And also the 6x6 film back. While some have suggested they may have made new stock cameras, but like Graham noted, its not clear. But the lenses are new, and are in the marketplace, albeit in small numbers.
kuau
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Graham,
you are going to love the hy6
I have been using mine for a few weeks now no complaints at all.
I just ordered the 45 degree finder from dhw today.
I wish I could have afforded the II 12 back, but it was out my my budget.
I am very pleased with my aptus II 7 afi, though I would love to find a used aptus II 10 afi back.
I am very happy now with my new setup, leaf afi, and Sinar arTec tech view camera. I feel I have the best of both worlds.
steven
you are going to love the hy6
I have been using mine for a few weeks now no complaints at all.
I just ordered the 45 degree finder from dhw today.
I wish I could have afforded the II 12 back, but it was out my my budget.
I am very pleased with my aptus II 7 afi, though I would love to find a used aptus II 10 afi back.
I am very happy now with my new setup, leaf afi, and Sinar arTec tech view camera. I feel I have the best of both worlds.
steven
EH21
Member
Anders,
Thanks for the insights and info re the Honk Kong dealers and Begruet Camera. Honestly I've avoided dealing with anyone except directly with DHW and B&H photo. 9daysHK seems to list quite a few hard to find Rollei items on ebay and their site so good to know. The only reason I'd not go with DHW would be to avoid the difficulty of the bank wire payment process, so I might be tempted for small items, however DHW have offered me the lowest prices of anyone and shipments usually arrive in the US within a week from payment - actually faster than B&H.
The camera continues to amaze me. You read a lot about how the 80mega pix will require rigorous treatment but I'm getting quite sharp pictures handheld in natural light with it, and I am thrilled with the AF focus accuracy and convenience of the rotating back - and also sensorflex.
Graham, I saw the picture you posted on LuLa with the Aptus 12. I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do with the AFi-ii 12!
Thanks for the insights and info re the Honk Kong dealers and Begruet Camera. Honestly I've avoided dealing with anyone except directly with DHW and B&H photo. 9daysHK seems to list quite a few hard to find Rollei items on ebay and their site so good to know. The only reason I'd not go with DHW would be to avoid the difficulty of the bank wire payment process, so I might be tempted for small items, however DHW have offered me the lowest prices of anyone and shipments usually arrive in the US within a week from payment - actually faster than B&H.
The camera continues to amaze me. You read a lot about how the 80mega pix will require rigorous treatment but I'm getting quite sharp pictures handheld in natural light with it, and I am thrilled with the AF focus accuracy and convenience of the rotating back - and also sensorflex.
Graham, I saw the picture you posted on LuLa with the Aptus 12. I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do with the AFi-ii 12!
B
Beyondthesea
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Thanks Anders for his advice. The website from the new agent in Hong Kong seems transparent enough:
http://livecoal.com.hk/shop/?lang=1
http://livecoal.com.hk/shop/?lang=1
Graham Mitchell
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The Hy6 arrived today. Just waiting for the Leaf back now. After the 6008AF, this thing feels a lot smaller, lighter and tighter. It's so similar to the 6008 yet so much more modern. Nice! Might run a roll of 120 film through it while I wait for the back (if you can buy 120 film in Dubai!)
Now that I have the remote control I can confirm that it has a 2-stage button, so that explains in part why they have not gone for a mechanical release.
They could have done like Mamiya, allowed for both, the mechanical just screwed to shutter button. Small detail though, great camera as is. Will be really interesting to hear (and I hope also we can learn from your impression) after you have worked it with the 12! The 12 made me finally give up film, sold my last 5x boxes of Velvia 50 4x5 the other week.
Regards
Anders
Just to clarify - has MLU and shutter release? Would be nice. The Leaf remote (plugs in to the back) only has shutter release.
Graham Mitchell
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No mirror lockup (unlike the 6000 remote), just the same two stage button as you find on the camera body.
EH21
Member
Just to throw a curve into the cable release discussion - I am wondering really if there's much difference using mirror up anyhow. Certainly with older cameras and other makes, but the Hy6 is pretty well damped. For example, I've been doing some side by side testing of the AFi-ii 12 fitted with the 90mm apo macro lens and the CFii-39MS on a 6008AF with the same lens. The multishot files benefitted from having mirror up in between all frames, however the AFi did not but still got more detail. I am starting to wonder how much the mirror up matters with the AFi. Anyone really test this?
Not scientifically, but empirically: shooting the 300 lens on a monopod, with MLU and getting some pretty clean shots. With mirror - less so.
So too, MLU has come in handy with normal lenses (60 or 80 mm) and slow shutter speeds, hand held. I typically take 3 quick shots with MLU, and usually one of these is sharp and the others aren't. At slow speeds hand held, the ones with the mirror in action can be a bit soft, although the dampening is quite good, and better than the 6008.
So while it seems that with the Hy6 the mirror dampening allows you to pick up about two stops on the 6008 (for handheld), the next jump benefits from MLU and leaf shutters.
So too, MLU has come in handy with normal lenses (60 or 80 mm) and slow shutter speeds, hand held. I typically take 3 quick shots with MLU, and usually one of these is sharp and the others aren't. At slow speeds hand held, the ones with the mirror in action can be a bit soft, although the dampening is quite good, and better than the 6008.
So while it seems that with the Hy6 the mirror dampening allows you to pick up about two stops on the 6008 (for handheld), the next jump benefits from MLU and leaf shutters.
Yes,
the Q-Base does work very well. I dont have my Hy6 any more but had used it with the Novoflex Q-Base without any problems.
Graham Mitchell
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Yes, I tried that too today - rock solid, and easy to release. Perhaps a little fiddly to mount, but maybe it gets faster with practice.
Jérôme.E
Member
This set seems very nice Graham... Happy for you.
I didn't know a lot about the Hy6 but after reading all of these comments, it sounds not good for my wallet!!
I was first interested with the RZPro II to mount my Aptus II 10.
Does an Aptus II 10 will fit on the Hy6?? Or the need of AFI is necessary?
I didn't know a lot about the Hy6 but after reading all of these comments, it sounds not good for my wallet!!
I was first interested with the RZPro II to mount my Aptus II 10.
Does an Aptus II 10 will fit on the Hy6?? Or the need of AFI is necessary?
Graham Mitchell
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There is/was a version of the Aptus II 10 which fits on the Hy6/Afi but you may need to change the mount of your back if your back is currently fitted with another mount. Best to talk to your dealer about it.
Some info here: http://www.photographyblog.com/news/56_megapixel_leaf_afi_10
Graham Mitchell
New member
No, you would need to swap the back for the AFi mount version.