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    This maybe my next lens after i rob the bank Cambo AE , IQ 160 and Rodie 28mm. Man do I like the look of this lens.






    This one is a 3 Shot Vertical stitch with the SK 60mm certainly my current love. Badwater Death Valley

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    John,

    Love the Devil's Golf Course shot -- you found a little pot of gold! I only wish we'd had more clouds for a good sunset that day.
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    Guy,

    What tech lens don't you love?



    PS: I've elevated the 28 to my want list
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    Damn everyone I have picked up just sings. I have tried quite a few now and have yet to find one that is not stellar. Im a junkie
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    Guy, you just need to buy one of each and then have two large bags, and hire a Shirpa to lug everything around for you.
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    Thanks Jack for this explanations. It sounds really strange and that nobody has yet found the exact reason. I guess they have also checked "magnetic fields reasons".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Hi Thierry,

    The rocks at the racetrack remain a mystery as to exactly how, why or when they move, there is no rhyme or reason. There are four credible theories, but the most agreed to seems to be extremely high winds -- though they do not know what the lubricant is. They have satellite imaged and geo-tagged some of the rocks and discovered some rocks move when the playa is wet while others move when it is frozen, while others don't move at all, but then some move when it is dry; some move a lot at one time where others do not move at all and then those do move when the first batch doesn't; big or small, some seemingly never move then all of a sudden make a large movement of several feet, others move minimally over regular intervals; some move in straight lines, others curve and still others make abrupt, angular turns; and the most confusing to the wind theory is some move in opposite directions at the same times.

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    Re: Technical Camera Images

    Lets load up a few here.

    SK 60





    SK 120







    SK 60 again

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    For your information, to all:

    We will speak to Rodenstock and as soon as we have got from them the necessary lenses data we shall include new corrections for the Alpa Lens Corrector plug-in.
    I can however not give yet a date of release for this new version of the lens corrector.

    As a reminder: this tool is free of charge and put at the disposal to all photographers, being it Alpa customers and others.

    In addition, this Alpa Lens Corrector tool will soon be available (within this month) in its 64-bit version (to be used with ONLY for Apple OSX 10.5 and above as well as with Photoshop CS 5 and above). The Windows 32-bit will remain available as well.

    I can only recommend the use of this great tool to all struggling with lens distortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cunim View Post
    Here's one from a cataloging project. AS Monolith, Rodenstock 135, IQ 180, f11, stacked. Yes, one of those subjects that only a collector could love, but technically interesting. Movements are doing what they should but note the distortion. How would one correct that? No profile for this lens in Alpa LC. Time to start shooting square grids and rolling my own or is there an easier way?

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    OK, I'll play...
    Rodie 70, IQ160.


    One heckuva workshop!

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    dunes, just after sunrise, 70R
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    dunes, two shot pano, 70R
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    last pano, such a beautiful spot...oops, forgot to trim it a bit

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    moon shot, dunes about 30min pre sunrise
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    Nice John and Matt . I knew our support group would post soon. Lol
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    zabriskie, pre-sunrise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post

    40mm HR
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    Outstanding! Those radio-controlled rocks are amazing, aren't they?

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    moon, zabriskie, pre-dawn, two shot pano, 120SK
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    moon, zabriskie, pre-dawn, two shot pano, 120SK
    John,

    OK, I'm in love! Great image.

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    thanks, Joe. used my I-phone/holder for framing, very useful for panos

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    Quote Originally Posted by TH_Alpa View Post
    Yes, the only solution is to take a longer FL, actually as long as possible when such round or spherical objects are to be reproduced without distorsion.

    Thierry
    Thanks, Thierry, Sashin and Wentbackward. The camera was set up with the standards vertical and front dropped in best tabletop fashion. However, I found I could avoid convergeance in the center or at the sides, not both. I am really fond of the Rodie 135, but this is clearly not its thing.

    I followed your advice and reshot with an Apo-Digitar 210. That fixed it, both in stacked planes for Helicon and in using fairly extreme front tilt for a single capture. It's a good day when I learn something new.

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    Marvelous Moon @ Zabriskie. The color in the distant range is exquisite.

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    John,

    Kudos on the Moon over Zabrisky -- awesome capture! The near monochrome rendering of the Panamint Mountains in the background is eerie.
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    Guy, Jack, Jim, you're blowing me away!

    Great images, congratulations.

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    John,

    Awe inspiring!

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    so glad you guys like it.

    something special about that pre-dawn aura gets captured, things the eye barely can see

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    zabriskie, pre-sunrise
    John

    I love that image . It looks very three dimensional . Very impressive to me . The soft color even intensify this .

    When I see the images of this workshop , a question arises .
    How do you and all members of the workshop protect your gear against sand ? ? ?
    Many years ago I was in France at the highest european sand dunes .
    A slight wind blew sand onto my ROLLEI and it could never get repaired again .
    Hope this happened to none of you .
    Regards . Jürgen .
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    No significant sand problems. Just don't change lenses in the dunes ...
    Ylem ...

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    With all these warm looking shots from Death Valley, I'm sorry to remind everyone it's still February.



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    artist's palette, first night out in death valley, just after sundown 70mm 5 shot pano
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    Inspired by Johns pre-dawn shots at Zabriske Point. Thought I would do a little work on mine.

    Here is a 4 shot Pano with the 60 SK



    Than a couple single shots with the same lens



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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Inspired by Johns pre-dawn shots at Zabriske Point. Thought I would do a little work on mine.

    Guy, this is my favorite of the three. The lines and colors all lead to the moon. Well done.

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    I think it is mine as well. Thanks Joe
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    moon, zabriskie, pre-dawn, two shot pano, 120SK
    Where's the jaw-meet-floor smiley when you need it, eh? The tones in the landscape are incredible.

    Just one question - has the Moon somehow got distorted in the stitching or is it lens distortion?

    It doesn't look circular to my eyes (stretched along the south-west>north-east axis), and the EXIF shows a 1 second exposure which I wouldn't expect to provide sufficient movement to give the same result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Colson View Post
    Jack,

    Outstanding! Those radio-controlled rocks are amazing, aren't they?

    Joe
    Thank you Joe! Yes, the rocks remain a mystery, the classic conundrum wrapped in a enigma...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gerald.d View Post
    Just one question - has the Moon somehow got distorted in the stitching or is it lens distortion?

    It doesn't look circular to my eyes (stretched along the south-west>north-east axis), and the EXIF shows a 1 second exposure which I wouldn't expect to provide sufficient movement to give the same result.
    I'll answer for John, not my shot, but I was there

    The Moon was about 3 days past full so was missing a portion of the right side. Not sure on John's EXIF, but I suspect that is a default shutter speed shown when shooting on a tech cam with no electronic connection to the back -- and the exposure was likely closer to 30 seconds which would slightly "track" the Moon right along the same axis the oval is on, elongating and blurring it slightly.
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    My bet John was shooting his SK 72 on his Cambo at least 20 seconds or so as Jack said. Exif would only show the time not the lens or aperture as tech cam lenses are dumb to the electronics of the back, so that does not show up.
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    Rodie 70 or sk 120. to tell the truth, in all the excitement, I don't rightly recall...

    moon was oblong in both pano components, probably distorted bit from flare

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    Thanks guys. 20-30 seconds makes a lot more sense, and would be sufficient for the Moon to get motion blurred.

    Still can't get my head around the tones in the landscape. Never seen anything quite like it before.

    Inspirational stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TH_Alpa View Post
    In addition, this Alpa Lens Corrector tool will soon be available (within this month) in its 64-bit version (to be used with ONLY for Apple OSX 10.5 and above as well as with Photoshop CS 5 and above).
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    That is a great news

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    These are my first images after my first attempt at using a Tech Cam and also processing in C1. Any thoughts or suggestions are most welcome

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    Hi Bryan,

    That's a really nice shot. There are two things I'd note, both of them related more to how you've processed them for posting than to the shooting itself.

    The first is that you've compressed it enough that there's some pretty noticeable banding, especially in the sky. I seem to be more sensitive to that than most people, but at least to me it detracts quite a bit, especially from a shot that starts out this nice.

    The second is sort of similar -- as it stands right now, you're not really using very close to all the range available in a JPEG (which is already a lot fewer than you have in the original capture). In particular, you're missing much of anything that resembles a really deep black (again -- almost certainly present in the raw file, but lost in the JPEG as it stands right now).

    I don't know anything about how you've set up your computer for processing, but the latter is particularly common with people who haven't calibrated their monitor -- most monitors are set at pretty high contrast and saturation by default, so a JPEG like this will look pretty good. On a calibrated monitor, however, it looks a little dull and flat. I hope you'll forgive my posting a mildly edited version (which I'll remove immediately, if you prefer):



    Note that any apparent increase in saturation here is a side-effect of the contrast -- I didn't touch the saturation levels at all. Literally, all I did was adjust the levels in Ps and re-save.

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    My first contributions to this thread. Quick conversions using C1, no sharpening or LCC applied.

    Interior with the SK43, zero shift. Exterior with the SK60, shifted +20mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TH_Alpa View Post
    Yes, the only solution is to take a longer FL, actually as long as possible when such round or spherical objects are to be reproduced without distorsion.

    Thierry
    ¿Does this apply to heads?

    Do we get much perceivable benefit above 120mm?

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    added three images to the left to complete a five shot pano, still trying to figure out how to even the sky tone in the center C5 gagged using phoyomerge, this was with auto giga
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcoffin View Post
    Hi Bryan,

    That's a really nice shot. There are two things I'd note, both of them related more to how you've processed them for posting than to the shooting itself.

    The first is that you've compressed it enough that there's some pretty noticeable banding, especially in the sky. I seem to be more sensitive to that than most people, but at least to me it detracts quite a bit, especially from a shot that starts out this nice.

    The second is sort of similar -- as it stands right now, you're not really using very close to all the range available in a JPEG (which is already a lot fewer than you have in the original capture). In particular, you're missing much of anything that resembles a really deep black (again -- almost certainly present in the raw file, but lost in the JPEG as it stands right now).

    I don't know anything about how you've set up your computer for processing, but the latter is particularly common with people who haven't calibrated their monitor -- most monitors are set at pretty high contrast and saturation by default, so a JPEG like this will look pretty good. On a calibrated monitor, however, it looks a little dull and flat. I hope you'll forgive my posting a mildly edited version (which I'll remove immediately, if you prefer):



    Note that any apparent increase in saturation here is a side-effect of the contrast -- I didn't touch the saturation levels at all. Literally, all I did was adjust the levels in Ps and re-save.
    Thanks for the feedback. I am still learning C1 as this was my first try, and I think my laptop and desktop have two different calibrations on the monitors. I like the subtle changes you made where the colors dont seem as over saturated and dont bleed as much into each other.

    I will keep playing around with C1 and see what I can do. The TIFF does look much better with regards to the blacks and tonal range, but the file is too large to post on here.

    Thanks again.
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    This is shot from Death Valley Junction. I loved the texture of the paint peeling from the wall.



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    Bryan:

    nice shot

    are you using shift? looks like a cyan shift at the top and light falloff, caused by shift and not corrected with the LCC. (you need to check the light falloff and color correction boxes when applying the LCC in C1)

    i personally would drop the exposure by a stop, add some clarity and bump sat a bit

    worth playing around with the image

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    I think I have to remove the vignetting as I believe this is what is causing the shift at the top. I can try to remove that and drop the exposure slightly and see what happens.

    I love the blue tonality in your Zebriskie images. Mine are note even close to that. Are those 30 sec exposures?
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    Two separate views of Mesquite Dunes at sunrise.



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    I tried to grab the sun just as it crested the mountains, but it was a tad too bright, and there was no way to stop the lens flare. I do like the image though, even though it is not quite what I hoped.



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