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    Guy settin g up his shot of the Rhyolite general store. You can see he has live view on in the TIFF image.



    Then this is my image of that shot, as I was just waiting for him to finish his turn.



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    With my new cube no less. LOL

    For fun here is my shot with the Rodie 28mm, I like the light better on Bryans so I went quick to get out of his way. I will be testing the SK 28mm with my 160 hopefully next week. I want one of them. Love the focal length

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    Bryan:

    i think my exposures were around 1 second, f5.6. they were bumped about 1.2 stops in post, plus some color editing for lightness/darkness in a few select areas in the hills

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    They are excellent captures and the color really sets the mood. The pano is striking even with the middle sky issue you describe.
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    Artists Palate on a grey evening.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    With my new cube no less. LOL

    For fun here is my shot with the Rodie 28mm, I like the light better on Bryans so I went quick to get out of his way. I will be testing the SK 28mm with my 160 hopefully next week. I want one of them. Love the focal length

    Guy, it was probably a 1 minute difference between the two, which shows how fast the sun sets behind the mountains.
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    LOL Yea i ran out of there in a hurry. LOL

    So glad you nailed it. Bryan go back to your image in C1 and knock the color temp down to 4950 and try that. Your looking a touch to warm, sky is going cyan on you.
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    Badwater



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    Another angle of the dunes at sunrise.



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    One from Dante's View. I still need to work on this one a bit.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    LOL Yea i ran out of there in a hurry. LOL

    So glad you nailed it. Bryan go back to your image in C1 and knock the color temp down to 4950 and try that. Your looking a touch to warm, sky is going cyan on you.
    I did, and it toned it down just a bit. I will repost it when I get home as I dont have WiFi in the office, and my images are on my laptop.
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    An attempt at a b&w conversion of the racetrack.

    Dont think it is quite there yet.



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    Crap I really need to go rob a bank. Last one Rodie 28mm

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    Re: Technical Camera Images

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Stephens View Post
    Badwater



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    You got the tilt down here , nice work.
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    town bank, Rhyolite, welcomes with open arms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    You got the tilt down here , nice work.
    It took a little while, but I got there in the end. After our day at Racetrack where you and I worked on tilt for about 30 minutes, I tried to listen to everyone else when they were speaking about using tilt to pick up some suggestions, and it helped a lot.
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    You just made my day . Thanks
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    Guy, and Jack:

    you made all our days! great time

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    It was a great time for all... Thanks Jack & Guy

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    It was a terrific experience and it was great to meet all the other workshop attendees as well. All I can say is that I am now hooked on my Tech Cam.
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    Beautiful work from Death Valley! It would be very helpful if you all would provide a little more information about your panos. If they are made by flat stitching (shift only), how much did you offset and what orientation was the back in. Was tilt used in addition? If they were made by rotation, what orientation was the back in and how much rise / fall or tilt was used in addition. Also, one of jlm's vertical shots was a two shot pano, was this made with rotation around an horizontal axis or shift? I am trying to get an appreciation for which camera movements are used to make these and other images and what the lens coverage is as well before throwing my wallet in the ring. Thanks for the help.

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    Oh yes! Big to Jack and Guy. What a great week!

    Sorry if this isn't the appropriate forum for this question, but to all you workshop members and tech cam users in general: What do you use for printing these files? I have a nice 48"x80" nook in my home office, and (most) printers are a lot cheaper than 28 Rodenstocks, and the 3800 can only go to 16x20...

    The solutions that have occurred to me so far are:
    1) Send the files to a professional.
    2) Get an Epson or Canon 24" and have fun wasting ink and paper.
    3) Don't even consider option 3 - it has numbers like 9900 in it.

    Any thoughts much appreciated,

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    I would strongly recommend the Canon ipf8300. It is extremely
    "stingy" with ink, precise in the quality of the image, and easy
    to use. ShadesofPaper.com has these at a remarkable price and
    are terrific to deal with. In fact, I am printing two 40x60 inch
    images as I type (on Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Bright White Paper).
    Last night did a series of 20 x 30 images on a variety of papers
    including Canson byarta and platine. No mesmarism and the
    printer AUTOMATICALLY switches from glossy (aka photo) to flat
    (aka non-photo fine art paper) black and gray ink without any waste
    or mess (unlike many Epsons!)

    (I do NOT work for nor am I affiliated with either Shades of Paper
    or Canon, but I am a happy and satisfied owner, who enjoys the
    control over my prints to insure quality and precision.)

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    I have the Epson 7900. I think a 24" size is perfect. If I occasionally need a larger print than 22" x whatever, I have a trusted source for bigger stuff.

    As Craig points out, Epson gets the bad rap for ink, but to be honest I'm hoping I go through all mine before it gets too old. And I buy the small volume cartridges! If you are a print house, then yeah. I have a 73-image show coming up in March. That should help me get through some ink!

    I am also a big fan of ShadesOfPaper. I love companies that have a local, small-business feel even when you buy via the internet.

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    And speaking of the bank in Rhyolite,

    At this size, you can't even see the sign that legibly states "Pavement Ends" at the end of the street.
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    Craig and Dave, thanks for the information.

    I just measured the door to my office, and it's only 31" wide. I think that rules out the big Canons, as they are both over 34" wide. I think I read that you don't want to tip these things on their sides or back when moving them, and even if that only applies once there is ink in the system, that means it could never leave once installed.

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    Matt - you realize that this won't get you any sympathy here regarding the door size. We expect to read about your apartment remodel built around the new wide printer and wider doorways.

    /cont hammer & chisels 'R us ...
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    Don't worry, Graham. The 9900 will definitely fit.

    But seriously, I have to keep the upgrades small until the DB purchase. Then anything else (monitors, printers, bodies, lenses) will seem like small change.

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    If your don't have room for the ipf8300, consider the ipf6300 - same inks etc., but "only" 24". I'm very pleased with mine, and also a happy customer of ShadesofPaper.

    Cheers, -Peter

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Matt - you realize that this won't get you any sympathy here regarding the door size. We expect to read about your apartment remodel built around the new wide printer and wider doorways.

    /cont hammer & chisels 'R us ...
    I had to cut down my desk just to get the 7900 in my office. Great printer
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    Matt if you can fit the 9900 it is the way to go.

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    Honestly, this spot in the house was designed for a desk. No no. Really it was...



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    Re: Technical Camera Images

    Epson's 7900 printer is a superior product and their tech service (especially over the phone) is outstanding. I use the ColorByte RIP (Imageprint) and an Ezio monitor.
    If one employs these three products with a regular calibration schedule, the printer will deliver almost precisely what you see on your monitor almost all the time.
    I understand there are less expensive ways to print an image, but I usually get what I am looking for on the first attempt; so over time the hardware is inexpensive and the frustration level is kept to a minimum
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    Quick! Someone post a tech camera image. I feel like a thread-jacker.

    Thank you all for the advice and pointers. Mods, if this is too , please move the whole printer discussion to another thread. OTOH, if it is deemed relevant, carry on!

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    I corrected the color temp and think this one looks a little better

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    The lonely caboose in Rhyolite across from the train station



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    Another sunrise on the dunes. I could have shot there for hours.



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    Bryan,
    I remember that caboose! Here is an image from last April:
    Alpa STC, HR100s, p65+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Stephens View Post
    I corrected the color temp and think this one looks a little better

    Perfect. Your cyan ski went away
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    Guys, leave some residual keystoning, please. They look better, more natural.
    (I know I'm getting in deep trouble for saying this)
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    I agree! I actually had to add keystoning to the bank picture. I may not have added enough.
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    Phewwwww!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by MGrayson View Post
    I agree! I actually had to add keystoning to the bank picture. I may not have added enough.
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    Great job Bryan! You have a series of stunning images! It's a tough call to pick my favorite, probably the salt flat, but I really like what you did here with the hardpan under the dunes!

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    Another angle of the dunes at sunrise.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MGrayson View Post
    And speaking of the bank in Rhyolite,

    At this size, you can't even see the sign that legibly states "Pavement Ends" at the end of the street.
    --Matt
    Matt, this image of Rhyolite is stellar, great job!

    PS: Re printers, I am an Epson guy all the way -- I currently have a 7900, but only because I don't have quite enough room for a 9900! And like the above posters said, you get near perfect WYSIWYG output.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uaiomex View Post
    Guys, leave some residual keystoning, please. They look better, more natural.
    (I know I'm getting in deep trouble for saying this)
    Eduardo

    I agree Eduardo. Just a skosh of upward camera tilt is preferable to a "perfect" rendering from a dead-level camera -- it looks un-natural to me unless it has it. That said, I think Matt executed his perfectly.
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    For visual contrast to images of sand and dry ridges here are 2 from the Styx valley in southern Tasmania.

    IQ180, Arca Rm3di, Rodenstock 23, five stack focus using Helicon. This is a first post - many thanks to those on this list for much information gleaned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Stephens View Post
    Guy settin g up his shot of the Rhyolite general store. You can see he has live view on in the TIFF image.



    Then this is my image of that shot, as I was just waiting for him to finish his turn.



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    ¿What are the pictures of?

    I see them as picture of the building in the landscape, and I would (if there was room) have used a much longer lens to make the image of the mountains behind at least as big as the building.

    In the shot with Guy, the building is framed by the mountains ¿hills?

    ...and is it a difference in lighting or "Hasselblad colour"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uaiomex View Post
    Guys, leave some residual keystoning, please. They look better, more natural.
    (I know I'm getting in deep trouble for saying this)
    Eduardo
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I agree Eduardo. Just a skosh of upward camera tilt is preferable to a "perfect" rendering from a dead-level camera -- it looks un-natural to me unless it has it. That said, I think Matt executed his perfectly.
    Yes, Jack (and Eduardo) ... but if you use a "proper" tech camera with a full range of yaw-free movements, you do not tilt the camera, you tilt the rear standard, and, having set up the shot, you should be able to (quickly and easily) produce alternative versions with varying degrees of rear tilt?

    ¿Trouble is these cameras tend to be heavy and bulky, so few people use them outside the studio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGrayson View Post
    And speaking of the bank in Rhyolite,

    At this size, you can't even see the sign that legibly states "Pavement Ends" at the end of the street.
    --Matt
    The hills in the distance are nice...could you have used a lens of three (or four) times the focal length, from three or time the distance, and made the hills almost fill the height of the frame?

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    Thank you for the suggestion. With experience, in sure different alternatives will occur. This was my first week with a tech cam, and I just wanted to get a wide architectural shot. It's humbling to see the images taken by photographers who were standing right next to me, and yet their work is so different and beautiful. (e.g. at Zabriskie)
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