New to MF

[tjtphotography]

Hi. I am new to MF. I don't own any MF gear. Yet.

My motivation for looking into moving to MF is the extended dynamic range available. So...I have been reading and learning a lot. To cut to the chase, I have been trying to find out what a Phase One P25+ for Mamiya/Phase One 645 might cost and I have not found much information other than they appear to be scarce/in high demand.

Does anyone have suggestions on where I should be looking for price and availability?

Thanks!

Ted

 

[Pics2]

I learn a lot here at GetDPI forums, this is good place for you to start.
Here are few
http://www.optechsdigital.com/Demo_and_Used_Equipment.html
http://www.captureintegration.com/store/demo-digital-backs/
https://www.digitaltransitions.com/product/used-digital-backs

 

[Guy Mancuso]

All three dealers are great to deal with and friends of GetDPI. Your in good hands with any one of them and suggest giving them a call Monday and check stock. The P25+ are getting scarce but the back alone would run in the 5800 to 7200 range. I loved mine when I shot it.

 

[Lee Love]

Ted look at the Mamiya 645DF / Leaf DM28. A lot more for your money.

 

[dougpeterson]

The market is complex and there are many reasons for everything. But as an oversimplification...

The P25+ is not a current production back (it's no longer being manufactured). So the supply is limited to what's already out there.

Demand/Production wise:
Historically (e.g. when the P25+ was being made) the balance of H, V, C, and M mounts were fairly even.
Recently (since Mamiya and Phase One started working together) the balance has skewed far towards M-mounts

So there is a lot of demand (now) for P25+M units but a small number of P25+M units out there.

I'd have to agree with Lee Love - the DM28 includes (normally) a DF body and a Schneider 80mm LS lens for $11k. It would be warrantied, come with dealer support (very helpful especially for first time MF buyers), and represents IMO a much better entry level option.

The only exception would be if long exposures (>20ish seconds) were really important to your needs.

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[tjtphotography]

Thank you Guy, Lee and Doug. I have taken your advice to heart. I am contacting the dealers as well as looking at the DM backs.

Ted

 

[djonesii]

I shopped hard, and worked with a dealer, wound up with a P30+ rather than a P25+,

For me, it was critical to have a solid idea of what I wanted, an then the dealer pointed me in the right direction.

In hindsight, I was not thinking much about technical camera 2 years ago when I started my MF search, and the limits of the P30+ were not a big deal.

Now, I'm getting ready to go on a landscape workshop and I may really have to loose all hope!

Dave

 

[djonesii]

working with a dealer

Dear forum ....

Just to be clear .... The decision that I make two years ago, in tandem with much good guidance from my authorized Phase on Dealer was the right one.

It was impossible for me to shoulder the cost/depreciation of a new generation back without micro lenses, and full frame, just because I might want to use a technical camera at some vague point in the future.

The P30+ is a great studio back for my style of fine art figure, and a pretty good location shooter relative to a Nikon DSLR, and that is well over 95% of my needs in the last two years.

My interests may or may not be shifting, and even if they do, I have a feeling that the "plain" old P30+ on my antique AFD-II will still smoke a D3X or 1DMKIV in the landscape world.

Dave

 

[Geoff]

Does anyone have suggestions on where I should be looking for price and availability?

Thanks!

Ted

Find a dealer, work with them. I wouldn't overlook Capture Integration just because they post on the forum. They are real standup guys, answer questions are helpful, etc., and I haven't yet bought from them.

There are other good ones out there too, depending on where you are.

 

[Bryan Stephens]

I dealt with Capture Integration and they were great. They answered all my questions and got me my back very quickly. I went with the P40+ and I am dying to use is on the upcoming workshop.

 

[Guy Mancuso]

Awesome

 

[tjtphotography]

All,

Thanks for the information and recommendations.

Ted