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+1Any details on distance/ crop size? Is that a processed raw? A jpeg out of the camera?
(neither crops look v good IMO)
All three are 1:1 crops.Any details on distance/ crop size? Is that a processed raw? A jpeg out of the camera?
(neither crops look v good IMO)
what phase back produced out of camera jpegs?All three are 1:1 crops.
They are out of camera jpegs.
The Fuji images are out of camera jpegs. Obviously the Phase image is not an out of camera jpeg.what phase back produced out of camera jpegs?
since they aren't identical shots of identical subject with identical data compared, they are pretty much irrelevant. The artifacts you claim is moire could be caused by many things.
BTW, seems to be a far reach from the topic. One thing I've always liked about getDPI is how things tend to stay on topic. there are a lot more relevant things to discuss about the implications of kodak's chapter 11 (for example, does apple really own the rights to many of the patents Kodak claims to own) than if a fuji sensor is better than a phase sensor...
Well, you did imply all three are out of camera. I knew the phase wasn't, seems it should have been clearer in your post.The Fuji images are out of camera jpegs. Obviously the Phase image is not an out of camera jpeg.
The artifacts in the image are moire. Totally absent on slide film shot with the very same camera.
What in your opinion would be causing it?
I think that moire free (or almost free) sensors are very on topic when discussing Kodak's chapter 11. Many people think kodak sensor division is dead.
It is not and they are developing moire free sensors as well as sensors with superior monochrome. A FF 24x36 has already been announced that is not a bayer array.
good points.Going back to the Chapter 11 issue...
One of the main reasons Kodak is doing this is to get out of part of their pension contracts with it retired employees. A huge obligation. This is going to be tough for many many people.
Kodak retirees may be affected by bankruptcy- Kingsport Times-News
It also makes it much easier for Kodak to sell it's intellectual property.
One the bankruptcy court OKs the sale can go ahead with out 3rd parties being able to block the sales.
Actually the new company has a lot to do with Kodak.Still seems off topic because Kodak no longer owns their sensor division and has nothing to do with future developments of sensors. Whether or not the company that purchased them is viable is another topic.Might be a good thing for all they sold the sensor division, although maybe there's too much competition for it to be viable. Important, probably, but nothing to do with Kodak anymore.
Actually the new company has a lot to do with Kodak.Still seems off topic because Kodak no longer owns their sensor division and has nothing to do with future developments of sensors. Whether or not the company that purchased them is viable is another topic.Might be a good thing for all they sold the sensor division, although maybe there's too much competition for it to be viable. Important, probably, but nothing to do with Kodak anymore.
Well it's not a thing of the past.Even though the sensor might not be a "bayer" sensor, it's still based on the concept, with each sensel seeing only red, green, or blue. the arrangement changes and perhaps the susceptibility to moire decreases, but it still must extrapolate color so we'll see how perfect it can be. I know all sensor makers are testing other arrangements than the traditional bayer, to me the most promising was this one by Kodak.
New Products on Display at Vision 2011 Bring Advances in Image Quality,Resolution, Sensitivity, and Customer Support
The KODAK KAI-16070 Image Sensor is the first device based on the KODAK
TRUESENSE 7.4-Micron Interline Transfer CCD Platform, a new technology that
leverages the superior capabilities of Kodak’s 5.5 micron pixel platform into a larger, 7.4
micron pixel. The new platform shares a number of performance features with the 5.5
micron pixel devices, including low read noise, high QE, and a flexible output structure
that supports the use of 1, 2, or 4 outputs on a single device. But the larger pixel size of
the new platform helps to increase the light gathering capability of the pixel by 80%,
improving signal-to-noise and low light performance. In addition, smear rejection has
been improved by 4x (to -115 dB), dynamic range has been doubled to 70 dB, and
blooming suppression has been increased to over 1000x.
In addition to improving the base performance of the pixel, the platform also
includes a new output design that allows a single charge packet to be sampled either
once (standard readout configuration) or twice – at both high and low gain – to enable
measurement of very high signal levels. When operated in this dual-gain mode, signals
of up to 160k electrons (corresponding to a 2x2 bin of the base pixel array) can be
measured, increasing the linear dynamic range available from the sensor to 82 dB.
Taken together, these improvements result in a technology platform that provides
superior image quality for use in the most demanding imaging applications.
The KODAK KAI-16070 Image Sensor is the first product to leverage this new
7.4 micron pixel platform. With 16 million pixels in a 35mm optical format, the KAI-
16070 supports full resolution readout at up to eight frames per second. In addition, this
product is both pin and package compatible with devices in the 5.5 micron pixel
platform, allowing the KAI-16070 to directly leverage cameras that support the 35mm
format KODAK KAI-29050 Image Sensor. The KAI-16070 is available in monochrome,
Bayer Color, and KODAK TRUESENSE Color Filter Pattern configurations.
No AA filter.So is the fuji's "lack" of moire due to sensor design? Does it have an AA filter? What's going on with the camera firmware? Moire can be resolved by software and that software is getting better (LR4 seems to be pretty good at it). All I can say is they look a little soft ... like an AA filter.
This sale announcement came just 2 days before Vision 2011 and there was no point in changing the show's plans and coming as something other than KodakWell it's not a thing of the past.