LOL I was being sarcastic.
Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.
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It wasn't a S2 owner conjuring up the comparison notion now was it?
Don't know when you demoed the S2, or what profile you used, or what settings, so it's impossible to know what you are talking about, nor what "crunchy" colors even mean. All I know is that you cannot default sharpen these files because the lenses are so sharp to start with, and the camera has had a number of firmware updates and a significant profile update so far ...
However, I did compare the S2 to my H4D/40 and current Sony A900 for over two weeks ... which is exactly why I went for it. Different strokes for different folks. Hardly use the Sony anymore. In fact, no need for a D800 either. I am far more intrigued by the D4 or Canon 1DX for 35mm work ... no compromise blinding speed and true low ambient light work. Keeps those horse on different courses instead of running against each other. Did the same with MFD, no confusing the S2 with my big gun H4D/60 ... rationally planned separation of powers.
Without the applications I now have, a D800 and D4 ... OR 1DX and heavily rumored 45 meg 5DX ... would be a no-brainer decision.
Application, application, application, drives the decisions, and it is there that all the differences being discussed emanate from, not the gear.
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for my part I will now stop in this discussion.
I dont care if a camera belongs to 35mm or to mf cameras or how it compares on paper to a different camera. For me it is important that I like the user interface and that I like the results.
And I dont want to do marketing for a camera. It is totally fine for me if other people prefer other cameras. I just try to post if I get the feeling that something is described in a way I did not experience and than see the risk that other people get an one sided impression.
For some reason I dont understand why posting images means "defending" something and that written text should be the better medium to compare image quality of cameras.
You found what works best for you and I found what works best for me. Happy shooting,Tom
The problem with this sort of data-free thread is that it invites all the thrust and parry of all of us opinionated folks without shedding any light on the subject.
It would be just as valid to wonder why a raven is like a writing desk.
Not as I understand it—numbers have no impact on reality at all; at best they are one of the descriptions humans have of reality. They are able to represent aspects of what we perceive, to be sure, but the experience is primary or, more accurately, we postulate that there is Reality (Wilden) and reality (individual experiences of it). Helpful reading here is Korzybski and others ("the map is not the territory" guy).it is at the heart of my scientific believes that generally 'numbers' have a deep impact on reality and that they are able to represent a strong part of what we perceive
and, Bob, just why is that raven like a writing desk?
Agree this vs that is really boring
But neither of them beats Film!!!
(Just thought this topic needs a little shot in the arm, take it away boys...)
Scientists and philosophers? My nephew is an astrophysicist with a PHD from Harvard University. During his college career he took violin lessons. When his violin teacher found out he was a physics major he said, "I knew it. I could tell by the way you played." So if a musician's ordered mentality is evident in their performance, it is probably the same for photography since they are both creative endeavors.
I find the folks that dismiss the numbers don't understand them. And folks that throw around numbers to "prove" product "superiority" don't understand them either. We already hear claims that the Nikon lenses will not be sharp on the new sensor. Well, if their images look sharp now, how is dividing the image into smaller pixels going to make images softer?
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Framing is all off Bob. Need fire to have negative space to grow. ROTFLMAO
Let's not talk cars Jack and I had flats 24 hours after each other in the same model cars same left rear tire and the same damn spot and same kind of puncture. Okay I needed new tires his where a week old . I bought new tires afterwards to do the workshop and get home. Jack parked his with fix a flat and left it in the parking lot to nurse it home. He got new tire today. Talk about crap luck
When you run with the honey badger you can expect a cobra sting once and awhile.
70 for 33 miles in the dirt. Lol
p.s. guys, let me know if you need a link to a source of REAL off road tyres
I'm at 2500 miles of a road trip with lots of rough stuff and I had an outage too. Need a new bulb for my brake light
Lol yea we did catch what your vehicle is wearing. Jealous
I did about 30K miles with my Landcruiser during my year in Australia, 25% on dirt roads and offroad. Darn expensive tires but they did last the year.
It's ok, Jack & Guy have the last laugh every time they go past me while I'm putting $$ into the gas pump.
As regards the original thread, well, if I were an S2 owner it wouldn't be so much as D800 vs S2 as D800 AND S2